20-Week Abortion Ban Heading to House Floor Next Week

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20-Week Abortion Ban Heading to House Floor Next Week

By Emma Dumain
Posted at 6:38 p.m. on June 10

The House will vote next week on a bill banning abortions across the country after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Doug Heye, deputy chief of staff to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., confirmed to CQ Roll Call that the chamber is on track to consider legislation next week that would ban all abortions after the 20-week threshold — the point at which some medical professionals believe a fetus can begin to feel pain.

The legislation, sponsored by Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., is being marked up by the full House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday and has the strong backing of the National Right to Life Committee.

Heye also confirmed that the bill would be brought to the floor under a rule, designed to allow for passage via a simple majority. Franks had a previous incarnation of the bill that would have banned abortions after 20 weeks only in the District of Columbia, and it came up for a vote in 2012 under suspension of the rules, an expedited procedure for allowing bills to come to the floor. But such suspension measures require a two-thirds majority vote for passage, and the bill failed to pass that goal post.

An urgency to move forward with the expanded bill, however, comes amid pressure from outside groups following the the case of Kermit Gosnell, a Pennsylvania abortion doctor who was recently convicted of three counts of first-degree murder. Gosnell was found to have operated his clinic in squalor and to have killed infants after they had been born.

“The trial of Kermit Gosnell exposed late abortions for what they really are: relocated infanticide,” Franks said in a recent statement. “I pray we use this as a ‘teachable moment,’ in the words of President Obama, and can agree that, at the very least, we are better than dismembering babies who can feel every excruciating moment.”

Though the bill is expected to pass given that the House Republican majority is largely opposed to abortion, it is likely to spark ire among some moderate Republicans in vulnerable districts for whom the vote could be politically damaging either way.

When the earlier iteration of the bill was on the floor last year, then-Reps. Mary Bono Mack of California and Robert Dold of Illinois, both moderate Republicans, confronted Cantor on the chamber floor for forcing their vote on the measure.

“It was very frustrating,” Bono Mack told CQ Roll Call recently. “There were real issues to focus on that should have been the news of the day. It wasn’t this.”

Bono Mack was ultimately defeated in her re-election campaign in 2012, as was Dold.

The vote next week will also certainly prompt outrage from abortion-rights Democrats, who will, like Mack, say that Congress should be voting to create jobs and repeal the sequester, not on controversial social policy bills that are all but dead on arrival in the Senate.

Before Heye confirmed the bill’s scheduled floor consideration, NARAL Pro-Choice America released a statement in anticipation of Wednesday’s markup, calling on House Republican leaders to pass on moving the legislation beyond the committee level.

“Where is the House leadership? With such an important margin of women voting against the conservative’s out-of-touch agenda in the last election, Speaker Boehner should not be looking for more opportunities to alienate women voters,” NARAL President Ilyse Hogue said.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/goppers/abortion-ban-bill-heading-to-house-floor-next-week/
 

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Hold my hand, man.

 

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How about we waste more time on shit that won't go anywhere, just to bolster our voting record, instead of actually fixing the country?

Hey, idiots: the people you're trying to impress by voting on an anti-abortion bill, were going to vote for you anyway. Stop pandering.
 

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Its either the taking of a life or its not. If its going to be legal at 19 weeks and 6 days, it may as well be legal at 35 weeks. The entire Gosnell trial was asinine because they were debating over a few inches. If the baby had been a few inches to the left, Gosnell would be free but because the babies survived the abortions and were killed a few inches to the right, it was ruled as murder.
 

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How about we waste more time on shit that won't go anywhere, just to bolster our voting record, instead of actually fixing the country?

Hey, idiots: the people you're trying to impress by voting on an anti-abortion bill, were going to vote for you anyway. Stop pandering.
Your solution for things to get better is for politicians to actually do something?

Fuck that.
 

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Its either the taking of a life or its not. If its going to be legal at 19 weeks and 6 days, it may as well be legal at 35 weeks. The entire Gosnell trial was asinine because they were debating over a few inches. If the baby had been a few inches to the left, Gosnell would be free but because the babies survived the abortions and were killed a few inches to the right, it was ruled as murder.

Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that he took a baby that was born and alive and snipped its spine with scissors. Enough with your poppycock.
 

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Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that he took a baby that was born and alive and snipped its spine with scissors. Enough with your poppycock.
But if the baby was inside the mother when he killed the baby, it would be fine.
 

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It is already illegal to abort a baby past the point of viability (24 weeks) in most places.
And that's why its asinine. Its murder in one state but ok in another? I guess it was legal in Gosnells state since he was only charged with 3 deaths instead of thousands over his 20 year career.

Then you have laws that say if you assault a woman in order to cause a miscarriage, you can be charged with murder or attempted murder. If the mother gives her consent, its her choice and the baby stops being a separate life. Its one of the most inconsistent laws ever.

Its either a separate life with its own rights or its not. People know its a separate life and its not the woman's body but they convince themselves that its no different than removing a tumor. If they were honest, they would admit that they believe not all life is equal. But that wouldn't look good on a protest sign, something nice sounding like pro choice or womens rights looks better than saying not all life is equal.
 
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And that's why its asinine. Its murder in one state but ok in another? I guess it was legal in Gosnells state since he was only charged with 3 deaths instead of thousands over his 20 year career.

Then you have laws that say if you assault a woman in order to cause a miscarriage, you can be charged with murder or attempted murder. If the mother gives her consent, its her choice and the baby stops being a separate life. Its one of the most inconsistent laws ever.

Its either a separate life with its own rights or its not. People know its a separate life and its not the woman's body but they convince themselves that its no different than removing a tumor. If they were honest, they would admit that they believe not all life is equal. But that wouldn't look good on a protest sign, something nice sounding like pro choice or womens rights looks better than saying not all life is equal.
Yes... the law varies from state to state. What is considered self defense in one state, is murder in another. States have some leeway and autonomy in their law-making decisions. Is this inconsistency something you were unaware of? Are you also OUTRAGED that you can buy booze on a Sunday in New York, but not in Indiana?

And again... I'll ask you the question you have run away from three times now.

When would YOU prefer abortion be illegal? 30 weeks? 2o weeks? 10? One week? Conception? Ejaculation? Flirtation?

Three times now. If you can't state your own simple opinion on this, then you're obviously not here to discuss, but rather preach your gospel from your moral high horse.

If you're not willing to even state your beliefs, then I'll thank you to zip your Moral Oral lip, and keep your sermons to yourself, Pastor Kirk.
 

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Are you also OUTRAGED that you can buy booze on a Sunday in New York, but not in Indiana?
Yes. You should have no "leeway" when it comes to ending human life. Its either ok to take life for convenience or its not. You can't say its murder to forcible cause a miscarriage but then say its a personal choice if the mother chooses to end the life. Forced miscarriages should be nothing but assault on the woman.

And again... I'll ask you the question you have run away from three times now.

When would YOU prefer abortion be illegal? 30 weeks? 2o weeks? 10? One week? Conception? Ejaculation? Flirtation?

Three times now. If you can't state your own simple opinion on this, then you're obviously not here to discuss, but rather preach your gospel from your moral high horse.

If you're not willing to even state your beliefs, then I'll thank you to zip your Moral Oral lip, and keep your sermons to yourself, Pastor Kirk.

Abortion shouldn't be legal at all but if it is legal at least be honest about it and don't try to act like you are fighting for women's rights. It has nothing to do with women's rights since the baby is a separate person. I see no reason for abortion to exist thanks to things like the morning after pill and other forms of birth control.
 
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I see no reason for abortion to exist thanks to things like the morning after pill and other forms of birth control.
Some people don't see the difference between a life aborted by the Morning after pill (by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg) or by removing an attached fetus from the uterus. How do you reconcile their concerns? Are you just going to change the definition of abortion to fit only your worldview?
 

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Some people don't see the difference between a life aborted by the Morning after pill (by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg) or by removing an attached fetus from the uterus. How do you reconcile their concerns? Are you just going to change the definition of abortion to fit only your worldview?
If they don't want to accept the research....

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...g-after-pills-dont-cause-abortion-studies-say

They are free to research it themselves and provide scientific evidence that it causes an abortion.
 

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I don't know why they're wasting their time with this nonsense legislation. I mean, Obama signed an executive order banning federally funded abortions from the new healthcare law. And we all know there's no going back after an executive order is signed.



No worries.

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Edit: Ooo...fitting that my sig pic just changed to something relevant to what I'm posting...although I did like the Obama/Nixon helicopter pic.
 

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Yes. You should have no "leeway" when it comes to ending human life. Its either ok to take life for convenience or its not. You can't say its murder to forcible cause a miscarriage but then say its a personal choice if the mother chooses to end the life. Forced miscarriages should be nothing but assault on the woman.
More of your usual 'black and white' childishness. No compromise... no leeway... no if, ands, or buts. Everything has to be right and wrong... black and white... moral and legal absolutes ALWAYS.

That's childish thinking, and it's exactly what I'd expect(and expected) out of a person as childlike as yourself.

Abortion shouldn't be legal at all but if it is legal at least be honest about it and don't try to act like you are fighting for women's rights. It has nothing to do with women's rights since the baby is a separate person. I see no reason for abortion to exist thanks to things like the morning after pill and other forms of birth control.
More childishness. ALL ABORTION SHOLD BE ILLEGAL! ALL!

So you would force by law ALL women to carry ALL pregnancies to term ALWAYS... even in ALL cases of raype, incest, severe fetal handicap/retardation, contraception failure, etc... because THERE IS NO REASON FOR ABORTION! EVER!

BUT... it's not a matter of women's rights. Right? Woman are perfectly free to do as Kirk says after all.

:rolleyes:

You're a clown, Kirk. A childish clown.

You live in a childlike world of childish absolutist thinking. This is why you are a clown.
 

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Kirk's already proven he has no concept of real-world issues. I don't know why you guys even bother.
 

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Yes. You should have no "leeway" when it comes to ending human life. Its either ok to take life for convenience or its not. You can't say its murder to forcible cause a miscarriage but then say its a personal choice if the mother chooses to end the life. Forced miscarriages should be nothing but assault on the woman.

Abortion shouldn't be legal at all but if it is legal at least be honest about it and don't try to act like you are fighting for women's rights. It has nothing to do with women's rights since the baby is a separate person. I see no reason for abortion to exist thanks to things like the morning after pill and other forms of birth control.

Since we don't actually know when life begins, your argument is valid. However, the morning after pill is considered abortion by some. And it's not always an option. Like it or not, some women just don't even think about getting pregnant until they're late. So that part of your argument isn't quite up to snuff.

Personally, I think a 20 week cutoff is fair enough. 24 even. But that's just me. It's just not going to pass Congress anyway. No big loss. They work on salary, and this eats up time that they'd be using to raise taxes or spend more money anyway. I say let them try, no matter how futile.
 

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Abortion shouldn't be legal at all but if it is legal at least be honest about it and don't try to act like you are fighting for women's rights. It has nothing to do with women's rights since the baby is a separate person. I see no reason for abortion to exist thanks to things like the morning after pill and other forms of birth control.
It has everything to do with women's rights. I think women should have the right to kill their unwanted babies up until the point they are viable outside the womb.
 

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Kirk's already proven he has no concept of real-world issues. I don't know why you guys even bother.
Mostly for the lolzies, but also to demonstrate just how far detatched from plain reality anti-abortion zealots like Kirk truly are.

So when you see people like Kirk spouting 'their holier than thous' you'll realize what an absolutely retarded worldview they have.
 

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Mostly for the lolzies, but also to demonstrate just how far detatched from plain reality anti-abortion zealots like Kirk truly are.

So when you see people like Kirk spouting 'their holier than thous' you'll realize what an absolutely retarded worldview they have.
You've been here since 2006. You should know that your personal experience and observations matter not in situations such as this.

Also, they'll never pass.

Also, thankfully they're wasting time on this and not on other stuff.

Also, who fucking cares?

And they'll all die off soon enough.

Also, before you arrived, this thread was a virtual utopia. An open sharing of ideas. Pleasantries. Exchanging foodstuffs at the market every fortnight. But you only exist to plant discord among us. Threddit Hole Puncher more like it.
 

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Mostly for the lolzies, but also to demonstrate just how far detatched from plain reality anti-abortion zealots like Kirk truly are.

So when you see people like Kirk spouting 'their holier than thous' you'll realize what an absolutely retarded worldview they have.
Understood and agreed.