2007 New York Knicks Thread

askewcore

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Well, season tips off tomorrow. I figure the four Knick fans on this board might want a place to lament. I know I shouldn't but every year I get a small glimmer of hope in my eye that the Knicks might actually do something this year. Lets go big Zach.
 
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I just can't get into NBA basketball....I love college....But I do like to see the Knicks do well
 
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one post? Wtf has happened to B-Ball! This day in age Hockey is more popular? Thats so weird...The knicks look decent this year.
 
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Wackbag is like the Bizarro world as far as Hockey and Basketball is concerned. Here Hockey is Very popular and Basketball gets little to no mention. Unforuntately it's pretty much the exact opposite in the Real World. Hmm I wonder if it has to do with Demographics that O and A fans pull in.

By the way the Knicks are in midseason form. Look good through 3 quarters and blow it away in the 4th. Gotta love it. I am a Knick fan who despises them right now. I will never root for Isiah Thomas and his collection of talented players but players who don't know how to win.
 

sobi

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I think it's due to the fact that most people here carry the mentality of our semi-toothed friends in the south. ; )

I actually used to like basketball, but the attitude of some of the players turned me off. That, and I got so wrapped up in baseball, I lost interest. I still root for the knicks though.
 
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It seems baseball and football is a sports fan favorites...The basketball and hockey is either or...I despise that stupid canadian sport....I haven't followed bball in years but I like the player son the knicks this year And Tonight was a nice win.
 

askewcore

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Its just so hard to follow basketball and hockey, both have long seasons and play at the same time. The Giants and Yankees take up so much of my sports interest, I cant have both the Knicks and the Rangers, and I was raised to be more of a hoops fan because my dad didnt watch hockey at all. Nice win tonight against the Minnesota Celtics. So far Zach and Curry seem to fit well together.
 
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Nice win tonight against the Minnesota Celtics. .

Isn't Minnesota supposed to be one of the worst teams in the league? Was this game back and forth all the way though with the Knicks pulling out a nailbiter at the end? If this is a nice win, then what's not a nice win? Let me see them win all these games at home before they go out West before I am impressed by them.
 

askewcore

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Anytime they win its nice. no one expected the wolves to be good, but last season the knicks played like shit at home early on, to win the home opener is good. I didnt say give them the title, but hey played a full game and didnt collapse and thats nice to see in the second game of the year.
 
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Askew...Im like ya...Yankee/Giant/Knick fan...My dad hated hockey when i was growing up and was always a big knick fan..I must say I love this years team...The starting 5 is decent..But you gotta love that bench..Lee, Nate and Balkman.
 

askewcore

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Fucking great game tonight. They looked like the same old Knicks, coming back from down 15 to tie and then give it right back, but this time they stuck with it and took it to a much better squad. Big Daddy Z with 22 and 17, kid is a beast.
 
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Yeah dude....I'm glad i got someone on here who watches the Knicks...Lets post here all season lol..Just me and you..wtf are the knicks fans..? I never understood the whole hockey thing..it stinks
 

abudabit

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BWAHAHAHA, Marbury abandoned the Knicks.

So, Stephon Marbury walked out on the New York Knicks. He just packed his bags and bailed on Tuesday, catching a flight out of Phoenix for Planet Starbury. This is what happens to a franchise when it’s turned over to knuckleheads and con men. From within, it implodes.

Today, Marbury.

Tomorrow, Isiah Thomas.

“I have one thing to say and that’s I got permission to leave,” Marbury countered in a text message Tuesday afternoon to the New York Post’s Marc Berman. “I would never leave my team on my own. What I’m telling you is that I got permission to leave from Isiah. He said I could go home.”

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Well, Thomas left the impression on Tuesday morning at a shootaround that Marbury had left on his own, and that he had hoped his point guard would return for tonight’s game with the Phoenix Suns, or perhaps re-join the team in Los Angeles on Wednesday.

Surprise, surprise: Someone with the Knicks isn’t telling the truth.

“No, I’m not coming to L.A. as of now,” Marbury said in the text to the Post.

Who knows who’s fibbing here, and frankly, who cares anymore? As much as ever, Thomas and Marbury deserve one another. Once, these two turned together on former coach Larry Brown and Anucha Browne Sanders, the former Knicks employee who sued the team for sexual harassment. It was just a matter of time until they turned on each other.

Clearly, Thomas has decided to go after Marbury, and you have to wonder how much his owner, Jim Dolan, is behind this move. Thomas knew he’d have the public support for benching Marbury, but probably didn’t expect Marbury would create this circus by leaving the team.

Just Tuesday morning, the New York Daily News reported Marbury had been angry over learning he wouldn’t start against the Suns tonight. For most of his five seasons in New York, Marbury had been at odds with Thomas over how he was expected to play the point. Thomas wanted defense, passing and leadership. Marbury wanted to be Starbury. The Daily News even reported that there had been some discussion within the Knicks about ending Marbury’s tenure with the franchise, presumably through a buyout even before Marbury returned to New York on Tuesday.

Just one week ago, Marbury had played beautifully in a victory over the Denver Nuggets, and the frontline of Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry looked tough, and you thought, maybe, just maybe, there was something still redeemable in this wreckage. Yet, that’s all the Knicks have been built for under Thomas. Just flashes, never staying power.

Through it all, Marbury has reminded everyone that his ultimate motivation is never winning, never leading – never anything but living in his own bizarre world.

“It seems like he and I go through this every November, then a couple of weeks go by and we kind of kiss and make up, then we go back to the business of trying to win basketball games,” Thomas said.

That’s a load of garbage. This time, it’s different. And Thomas knows it. Marbury has always been on the edge, but he pushed the limits of his own strange self this past summer. First, there was an appearance on a New York sports talk show, where his speech was slurred and his presence discombobulated. And then, after testifying in the Thomas sexual harassment trial to having sex with a Knicks intern in a parked truck, Marbury pranced merrily out of the courtroom, singing to himself. As usual, Marbury made a humiliating episode worse with his indifference.

They can’t go on this way with Marbury. Once more, Thomas will have to walk into his owner’s office and tell him: Eat another contract. He has to go to the Garden’s Richie Rich, Dolan, and ask him to reach into his pockets to fix another one of Thomas’ mistakes.

All that’ll cost Dolan is the balance of a buyout on the $42 million owed Marbury over this season and next.

The possibility of a trade is relatively remote, but not impossible. Even so, it’s hard to imagine there’s a franchise willing to let him pollute it for the rest of this season, never mind another. If Marbury was in the final year of his contract, yes, there would probably be takers in a deal that would allow them salary-cap relief once his contract expired in 2009. Nevertheless, there could be teams willing to make a move for Marbury with the idea of buying him out immediately.

There was always this idea that somehow Marbury could change, grow up and transform his selfish self into a leader. He would speak of studying old point guard footage of Bob Cousy, but end up playing like World B. Free. He would tell his old coach with the Nets, Byron Scott, that he wanted to know everything about how Magic Johnson ran the Showtime Lakers, but his miserable, rainy disposition alienated teammates and isolated himself.

From the day Thomas traded for Marbury in 2004, the Knicks enabled his sense of entitlement, the fantasyland he had concocted in his mind where he was forever the over-hyped prodigy out of Coney Island. All along, Marbury had been trained to believe that basketball was a business where you took and took, and never gave back. At the core, point guards need to be givers, and Marbury is the ultimate taker.

He has fantastic street smarts, real intelligence and always gave people what they wanted to hear to buy himself more time: regular revelations of epiphanies. Once, it was wearing an orange jump suit in a short prison sentence for a DUI in Phoenix, and then the trade to his hometown Knicks, the chance to learn to be a point guard under Thomas and Brown, and this summer, those embarrassing episodes had Marbury declaring that he had changed again by finding God.

For now, anyway, Marbury will be Thomas’ scapegoat. This isn’t his fault, the way that the blame for Brown didn’t fall on him. The Knicks are just five games into the season, and they’re in chaos, full crisis mode. Marbury has walked out the door, and probably played his final game with the Knicks.

Today, Marbury.

Tomorrow, Thomas.
How much more rock bottom do the Knicks have to go before they become viable again? I think this is a well executed conspiracy to get rid of Marbury and Thomas at the same time.
 

JMCC

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I have never been a fan of Marbury, he is a selfish player.. He played with KG and practically begged to be traded because he wanted to be THE star, he didn't want to share the spotlight with anyone. Probably every PG in the NBA would kill to have KG on their teams, but not "Starbury" :rolleyes:

If I was Thomas i would get rid of him, every team that has parted ways with Marbury has gotten considerably better, see T'wolves, Suns and Nets.
 

askewcore

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If Thomas can get any half decent player for Steph I think he needs to pull the trigger. I was never that Anti-Marbury, but if he doesnt want to be on the team, move him, move on. I would like to see Nate and Mardy Collins get their minutes upped anyway. F Marbury.
 
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So they lose by 32 in Denver and are now 2-7.

I think of those stupid MSG commercials for the Knicks before the season with that fan bragging "We've got Curry, Randolph, and Lee. This team is going to be awesome". And then I Laugh even more now than I did then.

Biggest joke of a franchise in Sports today. They can't lose enough for me. I hope they go 2-80. Maybe that will be enough to fire Isiah. But with Dolan who knows.
 

askewcore

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I will never root for my team to lose, but I haaaaaaate Isiah as a coach and a GM. I want him gone so bad, I would deal with another miserable season. But the Knicks do have a good, young core of potential, if they got the right guy to guide them there and one real star I really do beleive they could be a good team.
 

abudabit

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Maybe the Knicks should sign the Harlem Globetrotters.
 
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I root for the Mets, Jets, and Rangers besides the Knicks. So I have seen more than my share of losing teams. However with the Knicks its more than just the losing. It's the way they lose and the people involved with this team that I refuse to root for. These are a bunch of players who didn't want to play for a real coach in Larry Brown. They got their wish with Isiah and they constantly have no show performances. I can't tolerate that.

Sure the Knicks every now and then will have a nice win like the one against Denver and will make you feel good about the team. And everytime they do, they follow it up with disgraceful performances like the one in Denver.
 

Perch1019

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They are chanting "Fire Isiah" at the Garden. Looking at him standing there pretending he couldnt hear it was priceless. It seems like forever ago that I used to call in favors to get tickets to these games.
 
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The Worst Franchise in all of Sports today: your New York Knickerbockers. Do you think if the Knicks don't lose by more than 20 tonight against the Pistons, that Dolan will give Isiah a contract extension for showing improvement?
 

askewcore

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Technically I guess. I think they might be a NBADL team though.
 

badcellphoneguy

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At least some of those people have some talent in the NBADL. I would bet a team in that league can beat the Knicks. Retards can beat the Knicks.