Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Party Rooster, Aug 7, 2011.
CAN YOU HEAR US NOW!?!
Verizon still has a landline division? "whaa"
They have been selling chunks of it off... here they sold it to Fair Point
My buddy is on the picket line, I guess he works in the land line division. I guess thats why is is constantly in young people neighborhoods.
The wireless division isn't unionized. Verizon has been working towards making that the case for the entire company. Look at the numbers. 135,000 out of 196,000 are NOT unionized.
With unemployment as high as it is, I really think this isn't a good time to go on strike and their boy in the White House probably has more important things to do at this time.
Oh and I own about 1000 shares of Verizon stock (not a part of my mutual funds) gets me almost $2000 a year in dividend income
This. Make the concessions, or fucking force Verizon to sell it's entire wired division when it's not turning a profit, laying off every single one of those guys.
-Some say now is not the time for any union to exert its force. But let's be reality: This might be the last chance unions get to extract benefits from employers before the economy really rolls over.
-Any extra cost Verizon incurs due to union jobs a) gets passed on to the paying customer; b) is mitigated with outsourcing of other stateside jobs.
Is the FIOS division unionized? If not, I don't give a fuck.
Yes, the guy who comes and fixes your FIOS connection is a union guy.
Wireline includes anything that is physically connected with a wire.
FiOS, DSL, and telephones are wireline. As are some of the circuits from cell sites back to the offices.
Good luck getting just anyone to service them. You have to have a decent understanding of the technology to actually work on it. Knowing how to use a hammer won't help you run a fusion splicer or fix an air pressure leak.
I'm going to assume that the union is demanding unreasonable shit?
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From the unions website...
Guess they don't want to loose what they have...
Sort of like state workers that refuse to pay for just a small portion of their own health care?
Also listing the pay of the executives is a dead giveaway that they're going for the class warfare angle, which is always a sign that they're in the wrong.
Well what I found from other sites... was they want to take about $20k of benefits away... of course there isn't a list anywhere.
It's all relative. If they have $120k in benefits, that's reasonable. If they have $21k in benefits, it's worth striking over. Not all unions are created equal, so maybe there's a legit dispute here. I refuse to deal with any branch of Verizon, so I'll let them sort this one out on their own.
Here's the situation. The land line division is not profitable enough for Verizon. In order for it to remain a viable investment, Verizon has to increase profits in that division... sometimes the only way to do this is cut labor costs. At least these people still have a job, which they absolutely wont if Verizon says "fuck it" and liquidates the entire division.
The fact that they actually hinted that Verizon's other divisions (such as wireless) should carry the land line division shows how little they understand about business.
Their customer service sucks, their pricing sucks, and their people suck. Now they go on strike? Sounds like a good time for management to hire some of those unemployed who are looking so hard for work. I'm sure they won't be bitching about how terrible it is to get a paycheck.
Body count +1
Why are they blaming Verizon? The workers are striking. I'm sure Verizon would just hire 45,000 new workers if it were legal to do so.