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A Liberal Ayn Rand?

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  1. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    An article for The Huffington Post, by Onkar Ghate from the Ayn Rand Institute:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/onkar-ghate/ayn-rand-politics_b_2066189.html
    Methinks that's a bit much to ask from the collection of braindead socialists who call themselves "liberal" these days, but can't blame the guy for trying, I guess....
     
  2. Lord Zero

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    Just what the world needs.
     
  3. Polack

    Polack Who is John Galt?

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    You can't have a liberal Rand because they contradict each other. Liberals want someone to watch over society and Rand is against a large government. The reason conservatives like Rand is for this very reason. I think Rand would laugh if she knew that a group of faith based followers were putting her on a pedestal. To me, of everything I've read by her and about her she was closest to a libertarian.
     
  4. Don the Radio Guy

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    She didn't like libertarians either. She was really just a miserable cunt of a woman. Lots of good ideas,a few bad ones, and a penchant for writing books that are too long.
     
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    You just hate her because she's pro choice.
     
  6. Don the Radio Guy

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    I didn't say I hated her. I said she wasn't a nice person.
     
  7. Lord Zero

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    She was a cult leader too. If anyone in her circle disagree with her philosophy, they were shunned from the group.
     
  8. OccupyWackbag

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    You know she also pushed for outlawing organized religion too. In a speech she said "religion is a leach that feeds on the ignorant and simple and is one of the few problems so large that the federal government should be tasked with it eradication."
     
  9. Psychopath

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    Ayn Rand was a nut.
     
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    Are you sure that wasn't Andrew Ryan?
     
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    Nope, Google that shit man.
     
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    Oh literal OWB.
     
  13. Norm Stansfield

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    I'm thinking you might be trying for a bit of some kind. But if this is a serious post, you're probably the most retarded person on this board. Even Kirk could probably tell that that's not a real quote.
     
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    What was this "group" called, and who were the "members"? As far as I know, she was just a regular person with friends, with whom she'd fight on occasion (sometimes over her work, but more often because of personal issues like sex).

    If I tell one of my friends to go fuck himself because he's being a cunt, am I also a cult leader who's "shunning people from the group"?
     
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    Ok, what criteria are you using to decide if an idea is good or bad?
     
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    She was hideous, but I would've banged her just for the story.

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    Then I could've bragged like, "...I said to her, "I got yer fountainhead, Ayn... right here!" and then I pulled out and blew my load right in her eye."



    And there's my contribution to this thread.
     
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    She did inspire "2112"
     
  18. Don the Radio Guy

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    Advocating what amounts to a stateless society is not realistic. Government of some sort is absolutely necessary. The trick is to keep it as small as possible while providing only those services that government is able to provide in a manner better than the private sector. That list is very short, but it does exist. As an extension of that, she opposed all taxation. That's also not realistic.

    Her ideals are great for libertarian circle jerks, but just remember she hated libertarians too.

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_campus_libertarians

     
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    Is it me, or does the left hysterically overestimate Ayn Rand's influence on the right? Honestly, I hear about her far more from liberals than I do from conservatives.
     
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    Grossly overestimated. Rand is by no means a Bible for most people who agree with a lot of her concepts... to me when I read Atlas Shrugged (ten years ago) it just represented a bunch of my frustrations played out with obnoxious examples. I heard it called libertarian porn before and that makes sense... because like porn it's great to fantasize about it, but if you really think that exact scenario is going to happen you're delusional. However, that doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to make the world closer to that hypothetical one.

    I think the biggest appeal of Rand is her concepts represent what many people on the right see as completely opposite of where we're headed (which they don't agree with)... while most on the right would actually be happy with a more moderately right America (opposed to a fanatically libertarian one)... they want the tides to turn their way, so Rand is seen much like people view Fox News (the one "right" channel in a very liberal media). Reagan's philosophies have much more influence over the right than those of Rands in American at the moment, and they were extremely different people.

    Although I think the right is certainly turning more libertarian every year (and I'm using libertarian to describe Rand's philosophy just for simplification, I know there are differences between the two).
     
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    No, but how often do you end friendships because the friend doesn't think you, though?
     
  22. Don the Radio Guy

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    The left over simplifies and exaggerates everything. It's what they do.
     
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    I honestly can't tell if you're kidding or not sometimes. Does that mean that any 12 signs that I post here indicate cult status on the Left for, say, Che Guevara or Mumia Abu Jamal?
     

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