And the NFL offseason firings start

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So far just today.
Brian Billick fired as Ravens head coach.

In Miami, Parcells already fired the GM, assistant director of player personell, and college scouting coordinator
 

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Well it was time for Billick to go, I mean he only got that job because of the success the Vikings had in 1998. If had Randy Moss on one side and Chris Carter on the other, I would be considered an offensive guru too. As for Mueller, anybody that trades Wes Welker to a team in his own divsion, as well as draft Ted Ginn Jr. deserved to be fired.
 

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Well it was time for Billick to go, I mean he only got that job because of the success the Vikings had in 1998. If had Randy Moss on one side and Chris Carter on the other, I would be considered an offensive guru too. As for Mueller, anybody that trades Wes Welker to a team in his own divsion, as well as draft Ted Ginn Jr. deserved to be fired.

Every year it amazed me how long of a leash that Superbowl win bought Billick. How he fooled people into thinking he was a offensive genius all those years was shocking.
 

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It will be a tough road back for Billick. He hasn't made many friends. He'll probably get a shot as an offensive coordinator, but he better pick his spot carefully, unlike his fellow cocky scumbag cohorts Mike Martz and Jim Fassel.
 

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Does Coughlin go if and when the Giants falter in the playoffs? I hate to say when, cause as a Giants fan, I want to see them go all the way, but, let's be realistic!

The Billick firing was imminent, and not surprising at all. What about Mangina, he staying? ;)
 

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I agree, Brian Billick is not a surprise though I do think he will land as an offensive cordinator somewhere.

I also say Cam Cameron is going to be fired. It's not really his fault that Miami was so bad (they just don't have the players) but Parcells is going to want "his guy".

As for Coughlin, if he makes to the NFC Championship, we will stay. Divisional, I give it a maybe. But if the team looses in the first round, he's done.

As for Mike Martz, I think he is done as well. I think he should get out of the NFL and coach in the college ranks. His offensive system would go over big with recruits and I think he would be extremely successful.

A couple of names that you will here this off season is Mike Singletary, who would make a lot of sense in Atlanta and Jason Garrett who would do well in a rebuilding situation.
 

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Does Coughlin go if and when the Giants falter in the playoffs? I hate to say when, cause as a Giants fan, I want to see them go all the way, but, let's be realistic!

The Billick firing was imminent, and not surprising at all. What about Mangina, he staying? ;)


Coughlin definitely is gone if they're out in the first round. I think perhaps if he makes the 2nd round he may stay.
Mangina should get another year. I know the Jets fans are seemingly divided but I think and am in the camp that believes the guy should get another year. I do believe that both coordinators on each side of the ball should be fired immediately and replaced with better people. The problem with the New York Jets is and always will be WOODY JOHNSON. :hamm:
 

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I don't think Coughlin leaves this year unless they can talk Cowher into coaching, but I think Parcells is the only guy who has that power.

Even though Cowher I think said he's taking next year off.
 

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and the head coach shuffling begins. They just go to different teams and are considered geniuses re-born
 

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No surprise with Billick. Even his players hated him.

I think Cam Cameron gets one more year as the sacrificial lamb. Then as some talent comes in Parcells will bring his guy in. Mueller should have been taken out and shot after the Welker deal.

Cowher has been asked and time and time again he says he doesn't want to come back to coaching. He says that might change in the future but for now that's the case. I don't know how much to put into that but one remark stood out to me to think that's the truth. He said he was surprised at how much he's enjoying being retired from coaching and doing what he's doing now.
 

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I don't think the Ravens should have fired Billick. He had alot of good seasons there, even last year going 13-3 and then losing a close game to the Colts in the playoffs. The guy won a Super Bowl for christ's sake. And it's like he's bombed since then. From 2001-2007 they went 60-52 with 3 playoff appearances.
 

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I don't think the Ravens should have fired Billick. He had alot of good seasons there, even last year going 13-3 and then losing a close game to the Colts in the playoffs. The guy won a Super Bowl for christ's sake. And it's like he's bombed since then. From 2001-2007 they went 60-52 with 3 playoff appearances.
All those amazing defenses though, and they went out and traded for a premiere RB this year and they get five wins out of it. There were a lot of years between 2000 and now that he could have won another title but through bad coaching/player moves they didn't.
 

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I agree, Brian Billick is not a surprise though I do think he will land as an offensive cordinator somewhere.

I also say Cam Cameron is going to be fired. It's not really his fault that Miami was so bad (they just don't have the players) but Parcells is going to want "his guy".

As for Coughlin, if he makes to the NFC Championship, we will stay. Divisional, I give it a maybe. But if the team looses in the first round, he's done.

As for Mike Martz, I think he is done as well. I think he should get out of the NFL and coach in the college ranks. His offensive system would go over big with recruits and I think he would be extremely successful.

A couple of names that you will here this off season is Mike Singletary, who would make a lot of sense in Atlanta and Jason Garrett who would do well in a rebuilding situation.
Wow, you nailed a lot of these. Espn reported last night that Jason Garret is a candidate for the Ravens vacancy, and that Singletary is being mentioned in Atlanta, or possibly Miami if Cameron gets fired.
 

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Mike Martz out in Detroit. Rumored to be heading to San Fransisco as Off Coord.

Kind of a bummer. I like his imagination but he seemed to lock into a certain thing for entire games.
It was either run-run-run-run-run-pass-run-run-run or pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-run-pass-pass-pass.
Drove me nuts.
 

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Cowher has still said that he will not come back to coaching next season...he wants at least 2 years off


Cam Cameron shitcanned in Miami

ESPN said:
Cameron out as Dolphins coach

Dolphins coach Cam Cameron was fired Thursday morning, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports, continuing the team's shakeup following the hiring of Bill Parcells as head of football operations.

Cameron's fate was decided a day after the Dolphins hired Jeff Ireland as their new general manager and less than a week after Cameron finished a 1-15 season in his first year as an NFL head coach.

Parcells' call also means the Dolphins will have their fifth head coach in five seasons in 2008.

Bad personnel decisions over the past decade are a major reason for the decline of the Dolphins, once a perennial playoff team. They're sitting out the postseason for the sixth year in a row, and only an overtime win against Baltimore last month prevented them from becoming the NFL's first 0-16 team.
 

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Plus, the only job I think would really interest him is the Giants job.
It's his best chance of succeeding. Cowher's success in Pittsburgh wasn't solely due to his ability as a coach. He was part of an organization that knows how to scout talent and draft well. Part of his success came from the system he was in. No one knows if he can build a team. But I don't think anyone, especially him, wants to find out. If he comes back, he'll want to go somewhere that has a good existing talent pool.
 

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I think it's pretty much a given that Parcells will go after Crennell if Cleveland will let him talk to Romeo.
 

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Cleveland would be retardedto allow him to talk to Crennell
 

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Cleveland would be retardedto allow him to talk to Crennell
I agree. In any case, I'm not even sure why Crennel would even want to talk to Miami. Even if they offer him more money he is in a better situation to succeed in Cleveland. Miami is in rebuilding mode and it will take at least three to four years for the team to be a factor at best. Cleveland was arguably the best team not to make the playoffs this year and with a little improvement could challenge for the Super Bowl sooner than later.

However, having said that if Crenel does leave the absolute best fir for Cleveland would be Bill Cowher. He played for the Browns for three years and they gave him his first coaching job. The fans would love him and Cowher would have instant success as the team is only a year or so away from being a significant factor in the AFC. It really would be a great match.

In fact, after thinking about this Cleveland may be inclined to let Crennel go if Cowher shows interest. They would get an arguably better coach and some sort of compensation from Miami to boot.
 

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Cowher would definitely spark interest and god knows the Brownies/Steelers rivalry would turn into pure and utter hatred


I keep hearing Cowher as the next Giants coach essentially because his daughters go to Princeton & it'd be close to the rest of his family
 

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Oh baby, Cowher to Cleveland would be fantastic. But I really also believe like alot of you that the Giants is really the only team he'd want to be. If I'm the Giants and Cowher definitely wants to come if its open then you fire Coughlin regardless.