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Ultra-Orthodox Jewish men offered blurry glasses look to keep Israeli women out of sight

JERUSALEM - It's the latest prescription for extreme ultra-Orthodox Jewish men who shun contact with the opposite sex: Glasses that blur their vision, so they don't have to see women they consider to be immodestly dressed.

In an effort to maintain their strictly devout lifestyle, the ultra-Orthodox have separated the sexes on buses, sidewalks and other public spaces in their neighbourhoods. Their interpretation of Jewish law forbids contact between men and women who are not married.

Walls in their neighbourhoods feature signs exhorting women to wear closed-necked, long-sleeved blouses and long skirts. Extremists have accosted women they consider to have flouted the code.
Now they're trying to keep them out of clear sight altogether.

The ultra-Orthodox community's unofficial "modesty patrols" are selling glasses with special blur-inducing stickers on their lenses. The glasses provide clear vision for up to a few meters so as not to impede movement, but anything beyond that gets blurry — including women. It's not known how many have been sold.

For men forced to venture outside their insular communities, hoods and shields that block peripheral vision are also being offered.

The glasses are going for the "modest" price of $6.
http://news.yahoo.com/ultra-orthodox-jewish-men-offered-blurry-glasses-look-152806844.html
 

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This is a goof, right?
 

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Faggots. There's definitely a deep-seated fear of sex present in these people,
 

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Faggots. There's definitely a deep-seated fear of sex present in these people,
The stupid thing about shit like this is that the point of ultra pious Judaism (and Islam, and Christianity, and Hinduism, and pretty much every religion) is that you conquer your carnal urges. Using gadgets to avoid having those urges in the first place, and isolating yourself from anything that even remotely stirs your urges defeats the entire purpose of being pious in the first place. Look at me, I'm a vegetarian! Sure, I live on an Island with no animals and I don't know how to fish, but I haven't eaten a single piece of meat since I've been here! I feel so accomplished!

Morons.
 

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So Neon why exactly do you hate women... and protein apparently?
 

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The stupid thing about shit like this is that the point of ultra pious Judaism (and Islam, and Christianity, and Hinduism, and pretty much every religion) is that you conquer your carnal urges. Using gadgets to avoid having those urges in the first place, and isolating yourself from anything that even remotely stirs your urges defeats the entire purpose of being pious in the first place. Look at me, I'm a vegetarian! Sure, I live on an Island with no animals and I don't know how to fish, but I haven't eaten a single piece of meat since I've been here! I feel so accomplished!

Morons.
Piety makes living a boring proposition.
 

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So Neon why exactly do you hate women... and protein apparently?
I am way, way closer to being a staunch atheist than I am to being one of those weirdos.

Being ultra-pious makes living a boring proposition.
If you look at the world and universe around you and you see the fingerprints of some creator, that's cool. But I will never understand the notion that this life is insignificant and only meant as some superficial test for the afterlife. In fact, if you believe that some omnipotent being created the universe, wouldn't the complexity and majesty of the universe itself serve as proof that this existence is indeed worth living in and investigating and experiencing to the fullest? It's this weird contradiction in religion that I can never figure out.

I read a great article in Hebrew a while back on this topic that was written by a religious Jew, and he made the sarcastic point that God created pulsars and quasars and colliding galaxies all so that a bunch of rabbinical students could sit around a dingy backroom in Jerusalem debating why there is a comma in a certain place in a certain verse of the Torah. If I believed god created the universe, I would spend every moment trying to take in as much of it as I could, and yet these people who claim absolute belief do the exact opposite. They don't give a fuck about the actual work of the god they worship.

To me, looking at pictures taken on the surface of mars is akin to worshiping god. I am just taking in more about the universe around me, and admiring another piece of information about the reality I exist in.
 

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But I will never understand the notion that this life is insignificant and only meant as some superficial test for the afterlife.
The test thing is stupid, but life is insignificant. Any afterlife would be insignificant as well.
 

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The test thing is stupid, but life is insignificant. Any afterlife would be insignificant as well.
I meant more in the sense that this life is not worth living. Your life is not insignificant TO YOU, since you are the source of your own existence.

And I also don't think human life is insignificant on the scale of everything just because it is a very small part of it. I think human life is significant because it shows that the universe is amazing down to the smallest levels including us, and even further down to the quantum level. You know what I mean? Like even the most infinitesimal fraction of the universe can produce all the shit we have on Earth -art and music and technology and humor etc.
 

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And I also don't think human life is insignificant on the scale of everything just because it is a very small part of it. I think human life is significant because it shows that the universe is amazing down to the smallest levels including us, and even further down to the quantum level. You know what I mean? Like even the most infinitesimal fraction of the universe can produce all the shit we have on Earth -art and music and technology and humor etc.
I don't consider life insignificant because of its scale. I consider it insignificant because existence itself has no worth and serves no function. It just is what it is and that's enough. That's something that annoys me about the argument that the idea of a deity is inherently illogical (and this is coming from an agnostic atheist); existence itself is the most illogical and impossible thing anyone could ever conceive of. The ultimate secret of the universe, as I see it, is that underneath all the logic and physical laws lies a complete and total lack of reason and order.
 

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Said it before, I'll say it again: I LOVE when Neon goes philosophical with the cosmos, and skillfully ties religion into the mix. You are an artist, my good man.
 

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Said it before, I'll say it again: I LOVE when Neon goes philosophical with the cosmos, and skillfully ties religion into the mix. You are an artist, my good man.
Hahaha I can almost predict which of my rambling posts you'll like at this point. It's just been on my mind recently with this mars shit. Thanks.

I don't consider life insignificant because of its scale. I consider it insignificant because existence itself has no worth and serves no function. It just is what it is and that's enough. That's something that annoys me about the argument that the idea of a deity is inherently illogical (and this is coming from an agnostic atheist); existence itself is the most illogical and impossible thing anyone could ever conceive of. The ultimate secret of the universe, as I see it, is that underneath all the logic and physical laws lies a complete and total lack of reason and order.
Now we're really getting into philosophy! :)

"Worth" and "function" are things that need a beneficiary, or some mechanism which it acts upon. So in a sense you are right, there is no worth or function to life, in the sense that the universe itself doesn't benefit from your existence. However, you can still do things that are significant to you and feel like you made a difference on your own macro scale, and not the universal macro scale.
 

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Hahaha I can almost predict which of my rambling posts you'll like at this point. It's just been on my mind recently with this mars shit. Thanks.
I think it's because you can articulate the basic belief I have on many of the subjects you choose to examine in your posts. We're very like minded, you and I.
 

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I can get into more details, but I don't want to write an essay-ish post. Synopsis.

I am honestly torn between life's significance/insignificance. I mean yes, in the grand scheme all that we are and all that we do is pointless. But I find something fascinating about life, particularly humanity. There is something remarkable and glorious (yes, that's a gay word) about existence, the ability to create, the ability to imagine, the ability to transcend what we've been given and rise above other creatures and one another. And I think that's one of my big problems. I want to be a superior human, because if you can't be greater than others, then why bother putting forth any effort?
 

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See, guys? THIS is how you hijack a thread. Take a thread about fuzzy glasses for Orthodox Jews and make it about the significance of life and the universe. Boom.
 

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There is something remarkable and glorious (yes, that's a gay word) about existence, the ability to create, the ability to imagine, the ability to transcend what we've been given and rise above other creatures and one another.
I never said that existence wasn't cool. It's just pointless, but pointlessness doesn't necessary take the shine off it or make it not worth it on a personal level.

why bother putting forth any effort?
Because life meaning nothing isn't going to stop it from happening. Might as well enjoy it as much as possible. That's the best definition for life: The process of coping with existence.
 

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Because life meaning nothing isn't going to stop it from happening. Might as well enjoy it as much as possible. That's the best definition for life: The process of coping with existence.
My question wasn't "life is pointless, so why put forth any effort." My question was "if you can't be a superior human being, why put forth any effort?" Yes. I agree that we might as well try to enjoy the time we have here, but I find something so unfulfilling if the best you can hope for is being a nothing, squandering your existence, and maybe go out drinking every week or two.
 

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My question wasn't "life is pointless, so why put forth any effort." My question was "if you can't be a superior human being, why put forth any effort?" Yes. I agree that we might as well try to enjoy the time we have here, but I find something so unfulfilling if the best you can hope for is being a nothing, squandering your existence, and maybe go out drinking every week or two.
Superior in what way?
 

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I can get into more details, but I don't want to write an essay-ish post. Synopsis.

I am honestly torn between life's significance/insignificance. I mean yes, in the grand scheme all that we are and all that we do is pointless. But I find something fascinating about life, particularly humanity. There is something remarkable and glorious (yes, that's a gay word) about existence, the ability to create, the ability to imagine, the ability to transcend what we've been given and rise above other creatures and one another. And I think that's one of my big problems. I want to be a superior human, because if you can't be greater than others, then why bother putting forth any effort?
Many would argue that it's not about being better than others as much as it's about just being a positive influence on the species. If individually enough people simply put in more than they take, the species will advance. Of course most people won't be scientific or innovative geniuses, but if we create an environment where that can exist we've helped. That may entail laboring our entire lives to help provide raw materials for production... sure there's little glory in that but it's still an important aspect, and if that's your chosen place in life you can strive to be as good at it as possible.
 

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Superior in what way?
It's hard to explain sillyfuck. It's not like what whiskeyguy is saying where we view the individual's purpose as to help the species as a whole so a coal miner is important because people needs coal. It's about being able to excel at something in an area where (relatively) few even tread. To know that not only can you offer something unique, but you're better at doing it than 95% of the population.