Are we officially in a cold civil war?

Jacuzzi Billy

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#1
We are at a point where I can comfortably say yes to this question.

I've been hearing increased talks of actual civil war lately. Do you think it could ever come to that? I'm still a "no" on this question.
 
#2
We are at a point where I can comfortably say yes to this question.

I've been hearing increased talks of actual civil war lately. Do you think it could ever come to that? I'm still a "no" on this question.
I've seen Tim Pool say this a lot but I don't know what a cold civil war is exactly.
 
#3
Can't have a fact based adult political conversation anymore, I know that. The lefties started the trend of equating morals and politics, if you don't share their beliefs, you're evil, and you being evil justifies all kinds of heinous acts.
 

Pickle

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#4
More like a warm Revolutionary war. Fought with information instead of guns.
 

Jacuzzi Billy

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I've seen Tim Pool say this a lot but I don't know what a cold civil war is exactly.
Here's the definition of a cold war:

A cold war is a state of conflict between nations that does not involve direct military action but is pursued primarily through economic and political actions, propaganda, acts of espionage or proxy wars waged by surrogates.

Instead of between nations, a cold civil war is between groups within a nation. That's a really accurate definition of where we are right now, no?
 
#6
Here's the definition of a cold war:

A cold war is a state of conflict between nations that does not involve direct military action but is pursued primarily through economic and political actions, propaganda, acts of espionage or proxy wars waged by surrogates.

Instead of between nations, a cold civil war is between groups within a nation. That's a really accurate definition of where we are right now, no?
I could see that. I would say most people wouldn't wage a war outside of the internet. So this does sound like a feasible thing.
 

ysr50

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#7
We are at a point where I can comfortably say yes to this question.

I've been hearing increased talks of actual civil war lately. Do you think it could ever come to that? I'm still a "no" on this question.
No. The majority aren't well represented. Any conflicts will be instigated and reacted to by a very small percentage of the population. The media will make it seem as if the entire country is burning, which won't be true, the majority from both sides will walk outside and notice that they are still living a pretty decent, peaceful life. You might be watching the news too much, don't let them get to you. The silent majority is the most powerful group in this republic, and they'd rather not kill their neighbors because their political ideas don't align.
 

Jacuzzi Billy

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No. The majority aren't well represented. Any conflicts will be instigated and reacted to by a very small percentage of the population. The media will make it seem as if the entire country is burning, which won't be true, the majority from both sides will walk outside and notice that they are still living a pretty decent, peaceful life. You might be watching the news too much, don't let them get to you. The silent majority is the most powerful group in this republic, and they'd rather not kill their neighbors because their political ideas don't align.
I agree but the percentage of radicals is growing quickly. We are at 15% now. What is the percentage in 2020? 2024?
 

Pigdango

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#9
We are at a point where I can comfortably say yes to this question.

I've been hearing increased talks of actual civil war lately. Do you think it could ever come to that? I'm still a "no" on this question.
A couple years ago I outlined all the steps that would be required for an actual civil war to break out. Exactly none of them have happened, just a continuous flow of stupidity on the internet.
 

ysr50

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I agree but the percentage of radicals is growing quickly. We are at 15% now. What is the percentage in 2020? 2024?
I'm not sure the number of radicals is increasing, I don't see it in my daily life. The nightly news certainly seems to be trying to make it seem as if the world is ending, they don't give a fuck, if it bleeds it leads. Any sort of uprising or civil war would be money in the bank for them, it would be a feeding frenzy of 24 hour coverage of any street brawl that they might attribute to any political affiliation. Yes, there are radicals on both sides that would love to go out and start raising hell, there always has been, the difference seems to be that these days the media is trying to fan the flames so they have something to report about.
 

Jacuzzi Billy

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A couple years ago I outlined all the steps that would be required for an actual civil war to break out. Exactly none of them have happened, just a continuous flow of stupidity on the internet.
It's not only on the internet though. There's definitely been an escalation in the last month or so.
 

Jacuzzi Billy

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I'm not sure the number of radicals is increasing, I don't see it in my daily life. The nightly news certainly seems to be trying to make it seem as if the world is ending, they don't give a fuck, if it bleeds it leads. Any sort of uprising or civil war would be money in the bank for them, it would be a feeding frenzy of 24 hour coverage of any street brawl that they might attribute to any political affiliation. Yes, there are radicals on both sides that would love to go out and start raising hell, there always has been, the difference seems to be that these days the media is trying to fan the flames so they have something to report about.
I'll give an example. The Democratic Socialists of America membership in 2016 was 6,000. Today it is 60,000. I realize 60k is nothing but the growth rate is pretty disturbing.
 

ysr50

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I'll give an example. The Democratic Socialists of America membership in 2016 was 6,000. Today it is 60,000. I realize 60k is nothing but the growth rate is pretty disturbing.
For starters, we've had three mass shootings by radicals on both sides in one week. That's unprecedented.
Get used to it, this is the new now. Things aren't like they used to be. But I'll still have faith in our system, these assholes can't even pander to an audience they can't see or hear.
 

lajikal

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#16
It's not only on the internet though. There's definitely been an escalation in the last month or so.
Yup I've noticed this over the last few months.. and increasing recently.. will it turn into Mad Max shit?? Shit can disintegrate a lot faster than we'd like to imagine. It might not take a major catalyst just here and there type shit.. thinking strikes, riots, and 'gang warfare' as real possibilities. Right now it's mostly contained politically, through interwebz and media but that could and is spilling into 'real life'.
 

click

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I'll give an example. The Democratic Socialists of America membership in 2016 was 6,000. Today it is 60,000. I realize 60k is nothing but the growth rate is pretty disturbing.
Yeah, this group has me shaking in my jackboots. No clapping please.
 

TheLoon

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#18
I've seen Tim Pool say this a lot but I don't know what a cold civil war is exactly.
Means two sides hate each other but we haven't broken out the blue and greys just yet...or maybe we have...red hats v black masks
 

click

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#19
They refer to each other as comrade? Sorry to interrupt your thread JB.
 

Pigdango

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#20
I think it’s important to remember that civil unrest is not civil war. And again, in spite of a couple shootings that I would label more coincidental than escalation, the civil unrest is being expressed more on the Internet than anywhere else. We are still nowhere near the level of violent protests or riots as what this country experienced in the 60’s, and nobody asked if we were in a civil war back then.

The very question is part of the hyperbole and propaganda war being waged in the media and on the internet. I do find this week’s Tucker Carlson scandal to be an interesting propaganda battle. If he is forced out, that’s a major win in the Media civil war.
 

Pickle

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Yup I've noticed this over the last few months.. and increasing recently.. will it turn into Mad Max shit?? Shit can disintegrate a lot faster than we'd like to imagine. It might not take a major catalyst just here and there type shit.. thinking strikes, riots, and 'gang warfare' as real possibilities. Right now it's mostly contained politically, through interwebz and media but that could and is spilling into 'real life'.
How can you be noticing anything in America when you don’t live there?
 
#22
It will get interdasting if Trump wins in 2020 though. The hypocritical left will go dangerously full retard. Oh I would just love to see there heads esplode, Scanners style. Wouldn't mind to see a few go out, like R Budd Dwyer
 

domelogic

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#23
Msm has everyone believing this might be the case. They pour gasoline on it and the internet does the rest. Now the internet might not be so bad if not for the assholes running the sites. They also are pushing an agenda and fanning the flames. No one wants a civil war of sorts and those that do have no fucking idea what that would mean. To them it’s just words.

Now my opinion changes greatly if something happens to Trump. If he were assassinated or removed from office somehow(besides an election) then all bets are off. I think at that point we actually could have a civil war. Neither of those is likely at this point.
 

THE FEZ MAN

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My tinfoil hat says “yes” we are currently involved in some form of “civil war” I don’t think it’s ever going to boil over into a “shooting war” other than possibly some of what we have already seen, small skirmishes between protesting factions, with the media only focusing on the side that they have decided to vilify (anyone associated with trump in anyway they can draw that line, Charlottesville, the proud boys, the occasional guy wearing a manga hat trying to defend him self)

The majority of mainstream news and the Giant tech companies have chosen their side (leftist) and they are actively doing anything they can to push their agenda, @ysr50 brought up the “silent majority” sadly because they are “silent” and by the actions of the mass broadcast media and the social media companies, they are going to remain silent even if they don’t want to remain silent because of the way news is being manipulated.

Sadly none of this is new, and has been brewing for decades with the advent of the 24 hour for profit news and the for profit “Social media” the “locking” of Mitch McConnell’s twitter account, the demonetizing of you tubers, shutting down credit card payments to private companies that don’t politically align with the “acceptable business practices” (gun stores) , these are all excellent examples of actions against citizens by private sector “combatants”, civil cases specifically targeted against traditionally conservative companies.

These things have also creeped into the government, the patriot act was almost immediately turned against the American public, the IRS targeting conservative nonprofits, elected representatives calling for the arrest of citizens expressing their first amendment rights, and now the chittering about “red flag laws”., the censorship of print, film, and video games Which harken to the fears of the “thought and morality police” and the list goes on and on

We are absolutely engaged in some form of civil war
 

Begbie

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#25
I certainly don't try to be all conspiracy nutty...but I do believe that during the peak of the Cold War, the Soviets knew it would be near impossible to defeat us outright, but over time, they could use our many freedoms (speech namely) against us and gradually push their socialist beliefs into our culture and society. It's that whole "rot America from within" concept. Gradually pervert our way of thinking and turn Americans against each other. This will then lead to civil unrest and hopefully civil war. Weaken us to the point that we'll eventually just embrace communism outright or the Soviet Union will be immensely stronger to overcome us in a conflict.

Problem is, the Soviet Union collapsed. So you'd expect that would be the big turning point where we'd all realize socialism fails everywhere its installed. But the crazy thing is, that's not what happened...it seems as if socialism became even more popular from the 90s to today and was more widely embraced because it was pushed hard by the entertainment industry, the news media, and our schools. And now it's more embraced by DC, since we have outright socialists in our government. So while the Soviet Union collapsed, I think the socialists in this country had enough of a head start to continue us on this path.

And seeing as we are today, I believe it more and more. So to me, while the Cold War with the USSR ended with its collapse, I just think it has more silently continued here...and that's what we're fighting now. And I don't think it ends up with a full-scale violent war because I don't think they have the numbers and I think their followers are mostly pussies. They'd rather create conflict and unrest hiding behind their computers and spouting off on TV/big screen and in schools. But had the Soviets not collapsed and been a powerhouse today, I think we'd be in deep shit.
 
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