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source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/1...ifornia-park-nativity-scenes/?test=latestnews

Atheist Messages Displace California Park Nativity Scenes

Published December 13, 2011

A woman walks past a sign displaying an Atheist message along Ocean Avenue at Palisades Park in Santa Monica, Calif. Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2011.

SANTA MONICA, Calif. – Atheist messages have displaced most of the Christmas nativity scenes that local churches had placed in a California park for nearly six decades, and the churches say it was a coordinated attack.

Local churches have traditionally claimed 14 of the 21 display spaces to illustrate the story of the birth of Jesus Christ.

But atheists got all but three of the spaces this year because of a new lottery system.

"Our belief is that these new applicants have been working together to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own," said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for a coalition of the city's churches.

The Santa Monica Daily Press reported that churches had little or no competition for the spaces during the past 57 years. This year, 13 people bid for spaces, prompting City Hall to use a random lottery system to allot the spots.

Two individuals got 18 spaces. One person can request a maximum of nine.

Damon Vix is behind the effort.

Last year, he put up a sign quoting Thomas Jefferson: "Religions are all alike -- founded on fables and mythologies." There were also selections on U.S. Supreme Court decisions about the importance of separating church and state.

Vix now helps other atheists populate the park spaces, including American Atheists Inc. and the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Secularists feel a need to be more vocal and express their civil rights, he said.

"For 60 years, it's almost exclusively been the point of view of Christians putting up nativity scenes for a whole city block," Vix said.

Jameson pushed the city to give "local preference" in awarding the spaces, since Dix doesn't live in Santa Monica.

City Attorney Marsha Moutrie wrote, however, that the Christmas displays cross the boundary into First Amendment free speech rights, which know no geographical boundaries.

"Everyone has equal rights to use the streets and parks for expressive activities, irrespective of residency," Moutrie wrote.
 
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They worked within the law and are expressing themselves, no different than any other organization.
 

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Isn't the Catholic Church the biggest private landowner in the US? Have them spare a few parcels to preach the word of Jeebus.
 

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Isn't the Catholic Church the biggest private landowner in the US? Have them spare a few parcels to preach the word of Jeebus.
I'm surprised you don't know this, being such a libtard fanboy, but then again you're good at spewing nonsense with no basis in fact.

Ted Turner was the biggest private landowner in the country because of all those ranches he has... But I remember a recent article about some other guy bumping him out of the top spot:

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/12/john-malone-now-biggest-landowner-in-the-u-s/
 

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Related kinda, so I'll stick this here:

Atheists put ads on Seattle buses for holiday season .
Ads with the slogan “1 in 4 is an atheist” are appearing on Seattle buses.

by KING 5 News
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Updated yesterday at 11:16 PM

SEATTLE – Few things direct us, define us and, sometimes, divide us like labels.

Eespeically religious ones.



This week you'll find a dozen metro buses sporting one of those labels: Atheist.

The Seattle Atheists have purchased ad space on 12 King County Metro bus routes. Four king-sized banner ads will show "everyday" scenes: four hikers, four knitters, four commuters at a bus stop, and a family of four decorating a Christmas tree.

Each has the slogan, “One in 4 is an atheist” and includes a link to the campaign web page.

The groups cites the 2008 American Religion Identification Survey (ARIS), in which 25 percent of respondents from Washington picked "no religion" under the faith category.

Board member Ericka Johnson said the goal of the campaign is to encourage people to realize there are more "non-believers" than they are aware of, and to be willing to get to know them better. The group also hopes to encourage closeted non-believers to express themselves.

"Just because someone says they're 'no religion' doesn't mean they're atheist, right?" asked Seattlite Roniq Bartanen.

The 2008 ARIS actually included agnostics, humanists, and secularists under the same category. Nationally, only 0.7 percent of respondents identified themselves specifically as "atheist."

"But if all those people if they're without God that's what atheist means," Johnson said.

“Atheists are pretty much like everyone else,” said Eileen Cabalo of Seattle Atheists in a statement. “They’re bus drivers and engineers, baristas and doctors, smart people who take pride in their work, love their families, and appreciate the great things about America, just like religious people.”

In 2009, religious groups were in an uproar when Metro ran an atheist ad reading "Yes, Virginia, there is no God."



This year's ad campaign almost didn't happen, but for other reasons.

Last year, after a pro-Palestinian group tried to buy ad space for billboards referring to "Israeli War Crimes," King County Metro Transit passed a policy that banned anything advocating a political, religious or social opinion.

But then someone got through.

"We saw Mormon ads," said Johnson, referring to a recent ad blitz by the Church of Latter-Day Saints showcasing a diverse group of individuals along with the phrase "I am Mormon."

A Metro spokesperson said those ads got the green light because they only stated facts, not positions.

In other words, the board decided "I am Mormon" is okay, while "Be a Mormon" would not have been.

Heartened by the news, Johnson said the Seattle Atheists moved forward with the plans.

The ads are scheduled to run through mid-January.
 

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Of course it was atheists. Did someone expect it was going to be a Ramadan display? Or a Kwanzaa, or Hanukkah?

A woman walks past a sign displaying an Atheist message along Ocean Avenue at Palisades Park in Santa Monica, Calif. Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2011.
If you're going to quote an article, can you at least edit out the part that references a picture that doesn't make it (or include the picture)?
 

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This is blatant attention whoring.

And who knows... maybe in a thousand years the atheists will achieve the level of in-your-face attention whoring the Jeebus freaks are currently operating at.

 

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I'm surprised you don't know this, being such a libtard fanboy, but then again you're good at spewing nonsense with no basis in fact.

Ted Turner was the biggest private landowner in the country because of all those ranches he has... But I remember a recent article about some other guy bumping him out of the top spot:

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/12/john-malone-now-biggest-landowner-in-the-u-s/
I probably read it on a Snapple cap somewhere.

Of course it was atheists. Did someone expect it was going to be a Ramadan display?
Nope because Shooter didn't start the thread. :icon_cool
 

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Another display of atheism becoming a religion.

Why the fuck do you need to convert people if you don't have a god telling you to do so?!
 

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Another display of atheism becoming a religion.

Why the fuck do you need to convert people if you don't have a god telling you to do so?!
1. Because they are insecure in their unfounded beliefs that they need validation constantly.
2. They're fucking assholes.
 

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Another display of atheism becoming a religion.

Why the fuck do you need to convert people if you don't have a god telling you to do so?!
Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
 

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I have seen three billboards with signs that say reasons greetings I laughed at what a douchebag thing to do.

sent from my phone so deal with the terrible grammar and misspellings
 

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Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
And this hack line is your John 3:16.


I have seen three billboards with signs that say reasons greetings I laughed at what a douchebag thing to do.
It's classic Orwellian doublespeak. "Reason" and "freethought" are code words for them, even though their arguments contain no reason whatsoever, and they don't want anyone's thoughts to be free.
 
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Isn't the Catholic Church the biggest private landowner in the US? Have them spare a few parcels to preach the word of Jeebus.
Mostly right. Catholics are the largest land-owners in the world, not the country.

Non stamp collectors don't trumpet their non stamp collecting to everyone. Not even a small fraction of them.
Every fucking religion has hard core recruitment agenda. Every fucking one. How god damn hypocritical and moronic is it for someone to call Athiests the fucking loud mouths... We don't send teenagers on pilgrimages to foreign countries trying to convert the natives, we don't invite your kids to bible camps, and the best part? We don't pass a fucking collection plate at the end of the conversation.
 

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Every fucking religion has hard core recruitment agenda. Every fucking one. How god damn hypocritical and moronic is it for someone to call Athiests the fucking loud mouths... We don't send teenagers on pilgrimages to foreign countries trying to convert the natives, we don't invite your kids to bible camps, and the best part? We don't pass a fucking collection plate at the end of the conversation.
About that collection plate thing...

No one is claiming regular religions don't recruit. We're telling you that atheism is a de facto religion because it does every single one of those things you mentioned. Recruiting, trying to stamp out opposing views, and yes, asking for peoples' hard earned money. If you want, you can even donate your car or yacht to the American Atheists. They need the money to stop Armed Forces Radio from playing clips from the Blues Brothers. Important work being done there.
 

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Mostly right. Catholics are the largest land-owners in the world, not the country.



Every fucking religion has hard core recruitment agenda. Every fucking one. How god damn hypocritical and moronic is it for someone to call Athiests the fucking loud mouths... We don't send teenagers on pilgrimages to foreign countries trying to convert the natives, we don't invite your kids to bible camps, and the best part? We don't pass a fucking collection plate at the end of the conversation.
How hypocritical and moronic to see that if you're against something like religion, you don't start acting like one? You don't want to believe in something, fine. When you start shoving it in everyone's face, you're doing the exact same thing you're rallying against.
 
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About that collection plate thing...

No one is claiming regular religions don't recruit. We're telling you that atheism is a de facto religion because it does every single one of those things you mentioned. Recruiting, trying to stamp out opposing views, and yes, asking for peoples' hard earned money.
So something is a religion if it recruits, tries to stamp out opposing views, and asks for money? Doesn't there need to be a deity figure of some kind in there? Or at the very least some sort of belief in something unseen by the eyes of man? I would call atheism a faith, and there are atheist organizations, but it's not a religion.
 
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About that collection plate thing...

No one is claiming regular religions don't recruit. We're telling you that atheism is a de facto religion because it does every single one of those things you mentioned. Recruiting, trying to stamp out opposing views, and yes, asking for peoples' hard earned money. If you want, you can even donate your car or yacht to the American Atheists. They need the money to stop Armed Forces Radio from playing clips from the Blues Brothers. Important work being done there.
Loudly telling people like you to shut the fuck up with your Jeebus speach != being a loud mouth activist. You have to over-talk the person who's on the soap box or no one will hear you.

I mean fuck, look at this story. A religious person is pissed because the signs they were going to use to blast the public with their fairy tale rhetoric were hijacked by people who's only intention was to prevent the fairy tale rhetoric, and the Athiests are being called the loud mouthed ass holes?! How do you justify that argument in any way?!
 

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Another thing atheists and organized religion have in common is the butthurt they get when they're called out for being assholes.