Atheists get uppity over street sign

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New York Atheists Angry Over 'Heaven' Street Sign Honoring Sept. 11 Victims

A group of New York City atheists is demanding that the city remove a street sign honoring seven firefighters killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks because they say the sign violates the separation of church and state.
The street, “Seven in Heaven Way,” was officially dedicated last weekend in Brooklyn outside the firehouse where the firefighters once served. The ceremony was attended by dozens of firefighters, city leaders and widows of the fallen men.
“There should be no signage or displays of religious nature in the public domain,” said Ken Bronstein, president of New York City Atheists. “It’s really insulting to us.” Bronstein told Fox News Radio that his organization was especially concerned with the use of the word “heaven.” “We’ve concluded as atheists there is no heaven and there’s no hell,” he said.


“And it’s a totally religious statement. It’s a question of separation of church and state.” He was nonplussed over how his opposition to the street sign might be perceived – especially since the sign is honoring fallen heroes. “It’s irrelevant who it’s for,” Bronstein said. “We think this is a very bad thing,”
David Silverman, president of American Atheists, agreed calling on the city to remove the sign. “It implies that heaven actually exists,” Silverman told Fox News Radio.
“People died in 9/11, but they were all people who died, not just Christians. Heaven is a specifically Christian place. For the city to come up and say all those heroes are in heaven now, it’s not appropriate.”
“All memorials for fallen heroes should celebrate the diversity of our country and should be secular in nature. These heroes might have been Jews, they might have been atheists, I don’t know, but either way it’s wrong for the city to say they’re in heaven. It’s preachy.”
City leaders seemed dumbfounded by the atheists’ outrage because no one complained about the sign as it was going through a public approval process. “It’s unfortunate that they didn’t raise this as an issue while it was undergoing its public review either at the community board level or when it came before the City Council on their public agenda,” said Craig Hammerman, the district manager for Brooklyn Community Board 6.
Hammerman told Fox News Radio that the community was “solidly behind this proposal. Not a single person stood up to speak out against it. I think it’s a little late in the process for someone to be bringing this up now.”
“When you think you’ve heard it all, you haven’t,” Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz told Fox News Radio. “These seven brave souls who put their lives on the line and ultimately gave up the most precious gift that could be given, believe me are in heaven for serving us so admirably,” he said.
Criticism of the sign brought condemnation from Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.
“There are cities that have religious connotations in their names, why not a street,” Land said. “Do they want us to rename Los Angeles, Corpus Christi, and St. Joseph?”
He added, “In a country where 85 percent of the people say they are Christian or claim to be Christian, should it be surprising that you name cities and streets with religious terminology.”
Silverman said he would not be surprised if atheists are vilified for their criticism of the street sign – suggesting they were simply being patriotic. “If we’re opposed to this sign, we’re somehow opposed to honoring the heroes,” he said. “The attacks on 9/11 were an attack on America. They were an attack on our Constitution and breaking that Constitution to honor these firefighters is the wrong thing to do.
“The patriotic and right thing to do is to obey our own law and to realize that we are a diverse nation, a melting pot full of different views,” Silverman added. The local and national atheist organizations said they’ve offered alternative names that would still honor the firefighters, but without any religious affiliation.
Bronstein suggested they call the street, “We Remember The Seven – 9/11.” He said that would be “more appropriate.”
But the city has no intention of removing the sign. If that’s the case, Bronstein said he may consider a lawsuit.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/2...y-over-heaven-street-sign-honoring-11victims/

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agreed, that is a very gay fucking street name. I give it a month before there is anal sex happening in public on that street.
 

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Don just came.
 

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Agreed, weird sounding name. Reminds me of the Seven Minutes in Heaven game we played as kids.

“There should be no signage or displays of religious nature in the public domain,” said Ken Bronstein, president of New York City Atheists. “It’s really insulting to us.”
You're insulting to other atheists.

Bronstein told Fox News Radio that his organization was especially concerned with the use of the word “heaven.” “We’ve concluded as atheists there is no heaven and there’s no hell,” he said.
He's wrong. I've been there.

 

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You're insulting to other atheists.
I'd like to believe that. Unfortunately, your reasonably minded cohorts aren't vocal enough to change the public image of the group. When some idiot like this causes an uproar over something stupid, you need to smack them down in their place.
 
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As an atheist, let me state for the record that I don't share the views of these clowns. Heaven is not necessarily religious in nature. For me, heaven is a cold beer on a fast boat with a hot piece of ass.
 

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I'd like to believe that. Unfortunately, your reasonably minded cohorts aren't vocal enough to change the public image of the group. When some idiot like this causes an uproar over something stupid, you need to smack them down in their place.
I thought about that. Pondered signing up at their website and deluging them with cock pics.
http://nyc-atheists.org/drupal5/?q=forum/33

They've had tens of replies in their forums in the last year and zero activity in a month so I'm not sure how relevant they are.

Even their Facebook page has only 879 "Likes."

Maybe you should take your advice on Palin and just ignore them. :action-sm
 
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That's why god gave us chainsaws and shovels, my heathen friend.
I see what you did there... again, "God" isn't necessarily a religious term either. To me, God is a higher power.... the inexplicable. Not an omnipotent gray bearded man who listens to prayers, but a force that you and I can't explain and never will. Therefore, "in God we trust" doesn't bother me... my idea of God is pretty much the same as yours. It's a catch-all to explain the unexplainable, just like every religion. And why would you need a chainsaw and shovel on a boat? All you need is some concrete slippers.
 

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I see what you did there... again, "God" isn't necessarily a religious term either. To me, God is a higher power.... the inexplicable. Not an omnipotent gray bearded man who listens to prayers, but a force that you and I can't explain and never will. Therefore, "in God we trust" doesn't bother me... my idea of God is pretty much the same as yours. It's a catch-all to explain the unexplainable, just like every religion. And why would you need a chainsaw and shovel on a boat? All you need is some concrete slippers.
Hey, whaddya know? Intelligent discussion and a few jokes. I'm sure it won't last long.

I like the part I bolded. If there is some sort of higher intelligence, whatever you want to call it, the chances that it's something human beings can even comprehend are almost nil.
 

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As an atheist, let me state for the record that I don't share the views of these clowns. Heaven is not necessarily religious in nature. For me, heaven is a cold beer on a fast boat with a hot piece of ass.
I see what you did there... again, "God" isn't necessarily a religious term either. To me, God is a higher power.... the inexplicable. Not an omnipotent gray bearded man who listens to prayers, but a force that you and I can't explain and never will. Therefore, "in God we trust" doesn't bother me... my idea of God is pretty much the same as yours. It's a catch-all to explain the unexplainable, just like every religion. And why would you need a chainsaw and shovel on a boat? All you need is some concrete slippers.
I like the cut of your jib sir.
 
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it will be directed by mel gibson. and he is charged with the task of killing the world's last non believer.
Holy shit, we are on to something. We need a writer.... where's thekidslepthere?
 

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Am I the last agnostic?
There are more of us than you think. When it comes to this stuff, the smart money is always on "we don't know shit".

I don't know, but I would so watch a movie titled "The Last Agnostic". It sounds pretty cool. Hollywood, are you listening?
The only thing that is a must is that the ending be left ambiguous.
 

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Hey retards, what is the point of being an atheist if you are going to join a fucking group?

I'd really like to bitch slap my own (though these are not my own) but I have a fucking job.

It's a memorial, fucktards. Of course there is religious language. Pick your fucking battles.

Or, better yet, shut the fuck up and quit embarrassing the rest of us.
 

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Am I the last agnostic?
Not at all. Can we really stop being bullied? The name of that street
is not hurting or offending anyone. This is just another attempt to
push an agenda on the general public.

You don't believe in God or religion? Fine. I don't really either but
I don't care if others do and a name on a street isn't gonna hurt me.
 

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Hey retards, what is the point of being an atheist if you are going to join a fucking group?
I can't think of a witty reply so I'll just say it outright, what the fuck does atheism have to do with groups again?