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"B..b..b..but Plinkett!" - George Lucas Blames CRITICS For Killing Star Wars

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  1. Neon

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    Holy shit.... Speechless.

    Yeah, I hope you move away from the business, and towards a combination meat grinder/blast furnace.
     
  2. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    I wish he would stop being such a cock and just let someone make a new trilogy while the original actors are still alive. Not that they have to be the focus of the series but at least let someone develop the story like so many writers have done over the years.
     
  3. Stormrider666

    Stormrider666 Hell is home.

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    He really does sound like a little bitch with the "its my way or the highway" defense.
     
  4. Neon

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    By the way, isn't this supposed to be some kind of geek blog? Then WTF is this shit?

    I'd expect this kind of dismissive crap from Reuters, but not a niche blog. It's much more than that shit. Those movies are just so fucking lazy, are such a gigantic mess, and all the new sensibilities are force fed back into the originals that everyone loved. It was done with zero love of the source material. It was just Lucas in his ivory tower satisfying his horrible OCD by hiring people who were afraid to tell him the truth. Those movies are akin to someone building a birdhouse during occupational therapy. They were his way of dealing with his own retarded personal issues, and are therefore barely even fit for human consumption. To dismiss all that as some minor geek rage over Jar-Jar Binks is disingenuous and also quite insulting to the intelligence of the fans.
     
  5. Stormrider666

    Stormrider666 Hell is home.

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    But I think at the core, that's where a majority of the complaints come from.
     
  6. CousinDave

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    This was brought up on the latest episode of Big Kev's Geek Stuff


    I don't believe Lucas had any intentions of making episodes 7, 8, & 9 and this is just his excuse

    The royalties, licensing, publishing, Lucasarts, THX, ILM, etc... are much more profitable than making more movies would be anyway

    I could care less about seeing more of the Wampa in The Empire Strikes Back, the Ewolks blinking, etc... but Lucas will forever be a fucko for Greedo shooting first
     
  7. Biff Hardslab

    Biff Hardslab I have the t-shirt

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    I don't see why everybody was bitching. Jar Jar Binks added some much needed levity to such a serious movie. I mean, the Chinaman Lizards were interfering with trade routes and harassing the Naboo! Holy shit, you gotta have some laughs or you depress the audience to suicide.
     
  8. fletcher

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    You probably thought the Nazi's were justified also.
     
  9. Neon

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    No. The majority of the complaints I hear are that they are boring and confusing. You think those movies would have been any better without Jar-Jar Binks? Not an iota better.
     
  10. CousinDave

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    There weren't any Nazis in Star Wars

    You must be mixing up Indiana Jones with Star Wars
     
  11. Neon

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    Colin Quinn?
     
  12. Creasy Bear

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    Ugh... good riddance. Those last few were just god awful.
     
  13. Stormrider666

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    It would be a start.

    I have never heard the boring and confusing complaints. The complaints I have heard have been the movies were childish, there was no character development, and a majority of the characters were either annoying or walking racial stereotypes. Then there are the complaints about the acting of Hayden Christian and Natalie Portman.

    Then there is my favorite question of how the hell did Bobba Fett become one of the most important characters in Star Wars universe.
     
  14. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    He doesn't have to allow anyone to make a great movie about space cowboys, robots, evil empires etc. He just has to allow them to use the name Star Wars, and the character names. Other than that, anyone is free to make any kind of movie they want.

    They would of course be booed out of the theater for being plagiarists, but I don't understand why him giving permission would change that fact. It would still be ripping off Lucas, just that this time it would be to an applause from the audience, instead of the booing such an act deserves. But that's just because of the hypocrisy of the audience.

    Approved by Lucas or not, a sequel by another creator is still just a shit movie from someone who couldn't come up with his own stuff. In fact a sequel by Lucas himself is probably that, too, unless he comes up with something new enough that it's not really a sequel, but a different movie. At which point, he should probably also call it a different movie, let it stand on its own. And this ends my presentation on why sequels are shit. But especially sequels done by other people. At least if it's the same guy, he's just riding his own wave, not someone's coattails.
     
  15. Neon

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    I've also heard plenty of those, and don't get me wrong, I've heard a ton of grief about Jar-Jar, but it was never "Jar-Jar ruined those movies for me." He just embodied everything that was wrong about them.

    And Bobba Fett? Plinkett makes the case that DARTH VADER is way too important of a character in the prequels, and only because he became such a cultural icon since the originals. He makes a damn good case for it, actually.
     
  16. Lord Zero

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    Fuck off, George.
     
  17. Your_Moms_Box

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    I think that the more that time has gone by the less people have focused on Jar Jar as the reason they hate the prequels.

    When you were watching it for the first time, Jar Jar was the obvious thing to latch onto as "wrong" and you were able to take all of your unease with what you had just watched and push it on to that one character.

    "I couldn't have HATED a star wars movie... it must be that I hate JAR JAR!"


    Once they were released on DVD/BluRay and you were able to torture yourself by watching them a few times (trying to force yourself to like them) it becomes more and more obvious that the problem is the inability to tell any compelling story that makes them horrible.

    The characters are not relatable, the CGI is too much, and the story being told is shit compared to the original trilogy.

    Jar Jar would have been fine if the movies had been good.




    That being said,

    George Lucas did not **** my childhood. The original trilogy has given me far much more enjoyment in my lifetime than the new trilogy has caused pain.

    I watch plenty of shitty movies and shitty sequels and I don't turn around and act like that ruins the original.

    The Transformers movies haven't ruined the cartoons.

    The 2 Matrix sequels haven't ruined the first movie.

    The Planet of the Apes remake didn't make the original any less awesome, nor did the shitty sequels that were made to the original.


    Batman & Robin doesn't make Tim Burton's Batman any worse.

    a plethora of shitty Star Trek movies hasn't ruined the series's for me.


    Caprica didn't ruin Battlestar Galactica.




    Why do we hold Lucas to some standard that we don't hold all of these other piles of shit to?
     
  18. Neon

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    I agree with YMB. George Lucas did not raipe any of our childhoods. In fact, our childhoods were spared a Lucas raipe BECAUSE we got to see the originals as they were made. I'd say he didn't raipe OUR childhoods, but he is certainly raiping plenty of childhoods nowadays by robbing them of the original Star Wars trilogy.
     
  19. Your_Moms_Box

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    Fuck Plinkett.

    I emailed that fucker like 4 months ago and still haven't gotten my god damned pizza rolls.
     
  20. Neon

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    I hear he never anticipated such a high demand, and he has to mail them all himself, which creates a backlog...

    [​IMG]

    :icon_cool
     
  21. Stormrider666

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    Well since Vader is at the crux of the story, I can see why he was kind of important.

    Bobba Fett was a bounty hunter that had a total of 4 lines in 2 movies. But since some fanboys thought he was cool, he got elevated to cult status. Although I do like the Bobba Fett sketches on Robot Chicken.

    YMB does make some great points (Although Tim Burton's Batman stinks) and I don't understand why Lucas gets held to a different standard.
     
  22. Neon

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    I'm not going to make Plinkett's argument for him because I'll I won't do it justice. Just watch his Sith review and you'll understand. Sure, Vader was the crux of the story, but the point is he didn't have to be based on the original trilogy. It was his cool factor that elevated him to being the central part of the story, much like you describe what happened to Bobba Fett. Again, I don't want to get in to why Vader isn't that important because Plinkett explains it perfectly.
     
  23. Falldog

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    I think we finally figured out the core issue with the series.
     
  24. Pigdango

    Pigdango Silence, you mortal Fuck!
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    I agree that he's not making any more movies no matter what, and it's more about money than anything.

    I think he was more stung by the "poor" box office of the prequels (compared to Titanic and Avatar) than by any criticism of the movies. Plus I think he is pissed off that Plinkett, Adywan, and all these other guys are making money off pointing out his incompetence or improving his original work. If he doesn't get 100% of the money and 100% adoration, there's nothing in it for him.

    I think by saying this he's hoping that the fans who haven't been completely disenfranchised will turn against these guys in the hopes of getting sequels made, but I don't see that happening. Sure, Star Wars has a loyal fan base, but what George doesn't see is that most of those people are loyal to the original trilogy, and see Lucas as the enemy.
     
  25. okterrificsk2

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    Lucas is a genius and everything he does is A OK in my book.

    [video=youtube;WWaLxFIVX1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s[/video]

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    [video=youtube;JkPKZhXth7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkPKZhXth7M[/video]
     

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