Bill Maher Un-Baptizes Mitt Romney's Dead Father-in-Law in Atheism New Rule

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From Maher's show last night on HBO:

Maher’s New Rule: Atheism And Religion Are ‘Not Two Sides Of The Same Coin’

by Josh Feldman | 11:58 pm, February 3rd, 2012

In his final New Rule of the night, Bill Maher disputed the idea thrown out by some that atheism is a religion. It’s a refrain you hear from people who can’t stand both groups and believe that dogma is dogma, plain and simple, but Maher argued that treating atheism like a religion would be like saying “abstinence is a sex position.” After all, when was the last time a non-believer ever claimed to see the silhouette of Christopher Hitchens on the side of a tree?

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Even though Maher produced a documentary four years ago whose title was literally a portmanteau of “religion” and “ridiculous”, he admitted that atheism isn’t even a hobby of his. “That’s the nice thing about being an atheist, it takes up so little of your time,” he said. But Maher expressed concerns about the “growing trend” of people trying to equate religion, which is based in faith and things claiming to be beyond normal human comprehension, with evidence-based science. Charles Darwin may look like the kind of person we’ve always pictured a god to be, but when was the last time someone organized meetings or built huge buildings in reverence to Darwinism?

Maher did concede that atheism is not necessarily a bastion of pure intellectualism, but equating belief with “nonbelief” is not rational thinking.

“We’re not two sides of the same coin, and you don’t get to put your unreason up on the same shelf with my reason. Your stuff has to go over there, on the shelf with Zeus and Thor and the Kraken, with the stuff that is not evidence-based, stuff that religious people never change their mind about, no matter what happens.”

Maher said he would be perfectly willing to believe in a god or Jesus if there was any evidence to back up their existence, but until he sees any sign that they exist, he’s perfectly content to stay on the side of doubt. But, Maher concluded, if people are going to keep insisting atheism is a religion, then atheists should logically be able to get away with the same things religious people do on a daily basis. He brought up how Mitt Romney‘s late father-in-law was posthumously baptized, and donned a magician’s hat to perform an “unbaptism” ceremony. An unbaptism, for those unfamiliar with the practice, is very much like an unbirthday, except with far less tea.

RELATED: Bill Maher: All Religions Are ‘Magic Tricks’ But Mormonism Is ‘Novelty Shop’ Magic Trick

Maher mumbled a string of nonsense words, including what I’m pretty sure was a line from Harry Potter, and finally declared, “I call upon the Mormon spirits to leave your body the fuck alone.”

Watch the video below, courtesy of HBO:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-mah...-religion-are-not-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/
[video=youtube;f8U_JveHS8E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8U_JveHS8E[/video]
 
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Bill Maher will do anything to get into the spotlight, oldass stupid shit

hey look at me I'm Bill Maher and I'm suckin dick!
 

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I dislike Mahr but on this I agree.
 

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Bill Maher will do anything to get into the spotlight, oldass stupid shit

hey look at me I'm Bill Maher and I'm suckin dick!
You seem exceedingly preoccupied with the act of homosexual fellatio and having sex with other people's mothers. Is this merely a product of your simplemindedness, or are there deeper underlying mental issues at the root of this? I mean, are those the only two moronic insults your peabrain is capable of conjuring up, or are you genuinely obsessed to distraction with sucking dicks and fucking mothers?

You should probably look into that.
 
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You seem exceedingly preoccupied with the act of homosexual fellatio and having sex with other people's mothers. Is this merely a product of your simplemindedness, or are there deeper underlying mental issues at the root of this? I mean, are those the only two moronic insults your peabrain is capable of conjuring up, or are you genuinely obsessed to distraction with sucking dicks and fucking mothers?

You should probably look into that.
Wow that was a mouthfull , think about yourself there funboy
 
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You do have a point , this is pointless and I should be doing something constructive
 

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You're more of a thread attention whore than me.
 

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Atheism is absolutely not the opposite of religion. It is the opposite of believing in God. However, some people treat their atheism in the same sense that people who are religious treat their religion - i.e. that it is the cornerstone by which they judge themselves and others, and it is the core of their personal philosophy. And just like not all people who believe God exists are necessarily religious, not all people who do not believe he exists are atheists in the institutional sense (let's call them Antitheists as opposed to Atheists)

So I guess I sorta agree with him, but not entirely.
 

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And there are asshole atheists who are assholes because of their religious attitude towards atheism and asshole atheists who are assholes because they like fucking with people who view all atheists as the eviltheists.
 
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Whatever, Maher is still a douchey fuckwad self serving shitbag
 

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And there are asshole atheists who are assholes because of their religious attitude towards atheism and asshole atheists who are assholes because they like fucking with people who view all atheists as the eviltheists.
And then there are assholes that are just assholes. See: BeerBelly.

I like Maher (yeah I know) and while I agree with what he did in theory he really went over the top with this one. I guess I have to give him some latitude being that it was for a television and all.
 

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Atheism is absolutely not the opposite of religion. It is the opposite of believing in God. However, some people treat their atheism in the same sense that people who are religious treat their religion - i.e. that it is the cornerstone by which they judge themselves and others, and it is the core of their personal philosophy. And just like not all people who believe God exists are necessarily religious, not all people who do not believe he exists are atheists in the institutional sense (let's call them Antitheists as opposed to Atheists)

So I guess I sorta agree with him, but not entirely.
Good post. Anytime someone makes a statement that's an absolute, whether it's one of 20 thousand talking heads or an ex-comedian, you know it's just to try to get attention and should be ignored.
 

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BeerBelly the Romney's baptism thing:

Edit: I meant to type "More on" the Romney's baptism thing, and my computer auto-corrected it to that. Go figger...

Mitt Romney's family baptized Ann Romney's atheist father into Mormon church a year AFTER his death


By Meghan Keneally
Last updated at 10:40 PM on 28th January 2012

More questions are being raised about presidential candidate Mitt Romney's religion after it was revealed that he helped baptise his adamantly atheist father-in-law years after the man had died.

Edward Roderick Davies was Ann Romney's father and died in 1992 after living as a staunch atheist all his life.

Recently-discovered records show that, in keeping with their controversial tradition of posthumously baptising non-Mormons, a ceremony was held to invite Mr Davies into the Church of Latter Day Saints one year after he died.

The practice of performing baptisms for the dead has drawn criticism after the Mormon church began doing so for well-known Catholics- including former popes- and Jews- including Holocaust survivors.

According to the religion's official website, the baptisms are seen as a way to offer those souls an option of joining the Church even once they have died. A key point is that it is seen as an option- as the souls are believed to have the ability to either accept or reject the baptism.

Mitt's wife Ann converted to Mormonism when she was 17 years old, shortly after she had started dating her husband-to-be.

Because Mitt was in France doing his missionary work at the time, his father George Romney helped usher Ann into the religion and arranged for missionaries to teach her about the faith.


Edward Davies, shown here in his youth, was a staunch atheist and believed organized religions to be 'hogwash'

Shortly after Ann converted, her two brothers followed suit and converted as well.

Mr Davies died in 1992 and his wife died a year later. When she was on her deathbed, however, she asked her sons to help her convert to Mormonism, and she was baptised just before she died.

Unlike his wife, Mr Davies had no such last-minute requests for religious salvation.

He remained true to his convictions and considered organized religion 'drudgery' and 'hogwash'.

Ann's brother Roderick is quoted as saying that their father 'considered people who were religious to be weak in the knees'.

His well-known distaste for religion didn't stop members of his family from baptising him by proxy a year after he died, however.

The proxy baptisms are typically done with a member of the dead subject's family standing in for them at the ceremony and going through the actions on the deceased person's behalf.

Because all three of Mr Davies' children had been long-time members of the religion at that point, any of them could have been the proxy.

Little else is known about the specifics of the 'special family meeting' which resulted in Mr Davies' baptism, except that it took place in the famed Salt Lake Temple in Utah on September 13, 1993. Whether or not Mitt Romney was present is unknown, but it seems likely that his wife Ann certainly was.

The Romney family's pride in converting members of the Davies family to their religion is well-documented.

When Mitt was disheartened after having a difficult time converting the French to Mormonism while he was doing his missionary work, his father George wrote him a letter saying that their work with the Davies family was more important anyhow.

'I was thrilled to stand in for you in connection with (Ann's brother) Jim's baptism,' the elder Mr Romney wrote on March 6, 1967.

'This makes two converts here that are certainly yours so don't worry about your difficulty in converting those Frenchmen!

'I am sure you can appreciate that Ann and Jim are each worth a dozen of them, at least to us.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...on-church-year-AFTER-death.html#ixzz1lRiGymoM
 
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And then there are assholes that are just assholes. See: BeerBelly.

I like Maher (yeah I know) and while I agree with what he did in theory he really went over the top with this one. I guess I have to give him some latitude being that it was for a television and all.
There is no gray area with me , that's all I'm saying
 

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I agree with Maher on about 95% of things, and I like him, but lately he's been kind of unbearable.
The last 3-4 episodes of Real Time since he's come back from break, he's been more over the top and douchey than usual. Even to someone who loves him...
 

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I agree with Maher on about 95% of things, and I like him, but lately he's been kind of unbearable.
The last 3-4 episodes of Real Time since he's come back from break, he's been more over the top and douchey than usual. Even to someone who loves him...
He cycles with the POTUS election. Every 4 years he just ramps up the horseshit to ludicrous speed.