Discussion in 'Current Events' started by stevethrower, Dec 20, 2007.
Roxbury... now there is a shocker...
What a surprise
yepp,,big shocker on this one,,,even more shocking is that he lives in Roxbury
Breaking the law.....Check
I have a question that is slightly off topic…
Living in California I never had to worry about shoveling snow but I find this law kind of odd. Is this a common law where it snows? Isn’t it the city’s job to maintain public sidewalks?
Crawford wondered why Turner would be willing to pay a $50 fine for not shoveling, but apparently wasn't willing to pay a neighborhood kid $10 to shovel.
you find me a kid that'd be OUTSIDE, in roxbury THAT WON'T ROB YOU, that'll only charge $10 to shovel, i'll show you a Nigerian with a business proposition.
Well, it's up to the city. Roxbury isn't the cream of the crop, the more upscale cities (read lighter) have city owned, small sidewalk plows. look like tiny bobcats.
I don't think laws like this are that uncommon. Depending on the city there may be a law, but there is also a liability issue if your the property owner. Most of the time, it's the property owner is who "owns" the sidewalk not the city. Which means it's the property owner's responsibility to clear it not the city's.
I've never heard of anyone getting cited for a violation though.
Even those that do have those, don't necessarily do every sidewalk. Might just do a few main walkways. The majority are usually up to the property owners. They are the ones who will get sued if somebody slips and falls. I went to school in upstate, NY where it snowed a helluva lot more than down in Westchester and they frequently let the shit fall where it may and apparently weren't worried about lawsuits. The entire sidewalk would ice up and sit there indefinitely with 3 inches of solid ice on them. Meanwhile, growing up, the second the snow started falling my mother would be screaming about "Get out there! If somebody falls, your grandmother could lose the house!!!".
Well, you don't own the sidewalk. It's public property since anywhere in the USA the first 10' of your property has public right of way where cities can lay utility lines, power and sidewalks.
Let the fucking city clean the sidewalk. If I don't own something then I'm not going to go out of my way to fucking clean it.
I'd just throw out rocksalt the night before snow.
This is my point as well.
Now, in reality I wouldn't mind cleaning the sidewalk because I don't want to see someone hurt themselves but it bugs me that that a city is making someone do this. It's not my property. Why not make me to fix potholes in the street as well while you’re at it?
Now, if the city says that the sidewalk is in fact part of my property * and thus I am required to upkeep it, fine. If it's my property I guess that means I could put up barriers and tell people they can't walk on that part of the sidewalk which is mine, right? I doubt it.
This law stinks and I don't like it.
* Translation: If someone falls the city won’t have to pay, the individual will.
In Nj it is illegal to not shovel your sidewalk and a liability issue. In Montana it is not illegal to not shovel and in terms of liability, it is argueable...but most cases here determine the accident to be an act of God.
SSHHHHH!!!! Don't give NJ Legislature any ideas!!!!
And yes, it totally sucks. The city determines that you need a side walk, so they put one in, and then make you responsible for maintaining it, from shoveling snow to replacing it if it gets disrupted by tree roots or other stuff.
Yeah, you Fuckers walk in the middle of the goddamn street
Its law here. $50 a day. Pay it or shovel. WTF are ya gonna do? Dont like it? Move to the burbs where there are no sidewalks and if there are, its on Main St and the "town" takes care of it with the bob cat machines spoken of in a previous post.
what is even more insulting is they put the side walk in, then force you to maintain it, if you dont they fine you. its a fucking scam. im so glad that i live in the lilly white burbs