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Yesterdays Hero

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Long story shortened up a bit: Sucks when your kid is showing Bully tendencies.

Long Story:
When I started Grade 7, I came across my first Bully. His name was Matt. He was known the school over a right cunt. He picked on the vast majority of kids in school. Virtually no one was safe, including myself. The normal shit. Getting shoved in the halls, random things thrown at you, etc.

His favorite place to be a twat was in the Gym Change Room. He'd escalate shit to the point of repeatedly slamming a head into the change bins.

One day, he started in on me. It was Grade 8 by the time my turn got around. I had seen enough to know I'd be in the barrel for a good week or two by his previous M.O.

Weird thing was how I was a good 4-6 inches taller, and outweighed him by around 20lbs.

I'm changing, back to the room in general, when he shoves my head into a change bin. I stood up, turned around, and looked at him. I asked him not to do it again, or he'd wish he didn't. Fairly tame. Gave him the opportunity to opt out. Of course, in true dick fashion, into the change bin my head goes again from behind. With my back to him, I took hold of the change bin I was using that was at head level, and did this goofy 180' turn and brought my arm down full force. Edge collided with his nose and smashed it all to shit. It was such a mess when he landed I thought I took it clean off. Blood was everywhere.

I turned back around, finished changing, and walked out like nothing happened amidst the general chaos behind me. Went to my next class. Maybe 20 minutes later, pair of cops walk in and 'escorted' me out of school. I was suspended for a month and nearly got expelled.

Best part was how when I told my Father what happened, he said 'Good Job.' and that was it. I thought I was going to be killed. He was the 'strong/silent type' that was perpetually baked on weed when he wasn't working the rigs. Hardhearted mother fucker.

Fast forward to last monday. Apparently my 3 year old has taken a hate on to this one girl in her pre-school class. Some immigrant from an 'Ican' country. Bilingual (which is fine), but isn't too hot with the English yet.

My chick tells me said 3 year old pushed this Ican kid and said 'I hate you'.

What the fuck? First, we haven't once said 'Hate' in our place, and do a goddam good job of raising her as a kindhearted thing. Reinforced her natural good tendencies by telling her all about being nice to everyone, no biting/hitting, and how to deal with other shitty kids. Second, where the fuck did she pick up this pushing shit?

General theory is that she told the Ican she'd play with her later or something, Ican didn't understand and pushed on, and my kid shoved.

Low and behold, she's turning into a shitty kid. Again, what the fuck.

Took her home that day and drilled it into her head for the next few days about 'being nice' and 'be nice to the Ican'. She professed to getting it, and would be nice, not fuck with the kid, blah blah. Things were cool for the next couple days from what I'm told.

Today, I show up to get her, and the Instructor/Teacher pulls me aside. Apparently, 3 year old and the two other girls she hangs with were found pushing the Ican in the stomach and each having a turn at it.

My jaw hit the floor. I was stunned.

Suffice to say, I'm railing against my kids antics. Let her know how that shit isn't cool, etc, etc, no 'treats' or anything fun as she's in the doghouse.

Kids are horrible little creatures. If you don't have one, and are thinking of doing so, don't. Pains in the ass, the lot of them.

*Disclaimer* Ican = Jamaican, Dominican, Mexican, etc. No I don't use racial shit around my kid. Yes I'm a paragon of virtue when teaching my kid about life in general, as I'd like to know there's at least one decent human being on the planet when my clock says it's time to die.
 

Norm Stansfield

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1. If your daughter is 3, it's not her fault, and she shouldn't be punished for this.

2. It's your job and responsibility to make sure she doesn't do this again. And, when you're not with her, it's also the daycare person's job.

She's learning it from some place. Probably from the other little fucktards she did it with, who's parents aren't as multicultural as you. You should look into it, and find a way to separate her from the bad influence. Three is a little young to try and teach her to deal with it herself.

Did you explain to the daycare person that she didn't learn this at home?
 
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The kid is 3. All 3-year-olds are retarded. Short of strangling family pets, there's no behavior that you really have to get all worried about with a 3-year-old. They're not even really trainable humans until like 6.
 

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The kid is 3. All 3-year-olds are retarded. Short of strangling family pets, there's no behavior that you really have to get all worried about with a 3-year-old. They're not even really trainable humans until like 6.
That's true, but it doesn't mean he should let her abuse the other three year old.
 

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That's true, but it doesn't mean he should let her abuse the other three year old.
Of course not... you tell her it's wrong and/or whack her on the head with a rolled up newspaper... whatever... but you don't get all upset like the kid is on the path to becoming a serial killer... the kid is three... they have like the brains of mice at that age.
 

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1. If your daughter is 3, it's not her fault, and she shouldn't be punished for this.

2. It's your job and responsibility to make sure she doesn't do this again. And, when you're not with her, it's also the daycare person's job.

She's learning it from some place. Probably from the other little fucktards she did it with, who's parents aren't as multicultural as you. You should look into it, and find a way to separate her from the bad influence. Three is a little young to try and teach her to deal with it herself.

Did you explain to the daycare person that she didn't learn this at home?
Already done all three thoughts. I'm not 'punishing' her per se (insert obligatory Uncle Paul Joke here), but she knows I'm not thrilled with her behavior. First time it happened, I'm 99% sure it was an early form of 'Kay get away from me already, as I tried being nice', hence the shove. Second time was because her trio wanted her to fuck off as they didn't wanna play with her, but Ican couldn't take the hint.

Pre-school has been made well aware she didn't pick this shit up at home, as her environment is pretty 'Happy, Sunshine, Rainbow, Peace-Man.' type of thing.

The kid is 3. All 3-year-olds are retarded. Short of strangling family pets, there's no behavior that you really have to get all worried about with a 3-year-old. They're not even really trainable humans until like 6.
Very true. I agree. 6 tends to be the age of reason.

My chick is some upset about it. I'm a lil tweaked at her for being cunty, but I highly doubtful they had the Ican in a corner and were giving her beats like a gang out of Detroit. There were in some play castle and the wetback wanted in. Place is small so the trio said No, and Ican kept at it. So one pushed her in the belly from a sitting position and said No again. Next try, next kid gave a belly push-away deal. Rinse repeat until a Teacher broke it up.

I'm more in the mindset of 'Hey knock it off. Don't have to like the kid, but don't be cunty either. Just walk off.' whereas my chick is 'OMGWTFKID IS THE ENXT DEXTER!!!!'

I always thought I'd be on the side of my kid getting pushed around, not the other.

Help, I'm babbling like a wash woman. Hang me already.
 

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Already done all three thoughts. I'm not 'punishing' her per se (insert obligatory Uncle Paul Joke here), but she knows I'm not thrilled with her behavior. First time it happened, I'm 99% sure it was an early form of 'Kay get away from me already, as I tried being nice', hence the shove. Second time was because her trio wanted her to fuck off as they didn't wanna play with her, but Ican couldn't take the hint.

Pre-school has been made well aware she didn't pick this shit up at home, as her environment is pretty 'Happy, Sunshine, Rainbow, Peace-Man.' type of thing.



Very true. I agree. 6 tends to be the age of reason.

My chick is some upset about it. I'm a lil tweaked at her for being cunty, but I highly doubtful they had the Ican in a corner and were giving her beats like a gang out of Detroit. There were in some play castle and the wetback wanted in. Place is small so the trio said No, and Ican kept at it. So one pushed her in the belly from a sitting position and said No again. Next try, next kid gave a belly push-away deal. Rinse repeat until a Teacher broke it up.

I'm more in the mindset of 'Hey knock it off. Don't have to like the kid, but don't be cunty either. Just walk off.' whereas my chick is 'OMGWTFKID IS THE ENXT DEXTER!!!!'

I always thought I'd be on the side of my kid getting pushed around, not the other.

Help, I'm babbling like a wash woman. Hang me already.
Dude... you have to re-the frick-lax. If you're getting this worked up over some 3-year-old day care drama, you're going to be a maniac when this kid hits kindergarten.
 

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Of course not... you tell her it's wrong and/or whack her on the head with a rolled up newspaper... whatever... but you don't get all upset like the kid is on the path to becoming a serial killer... the kid is three... they have like the brains of mice at that age.
yeah...whack her on the head with a newspaper or rub her nose in her piss when she wets herself......:action-sm
 

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Dude... you have to re-the frick-lax. If you're getting this worked up over some 3-year-old day care drama, you're going to be a maniac when this kid hits kindergarten.
Really not overly worked up. Mildly annoyed that goofy shit is happening already. At 5 she'll want a cell. Just inane.

yeah...whack her on the head with a newspaper or rub her nose in her piss when she wets herself......:action-sm
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Kids aren't born innocent and virtous, that is something that is learned. So they can do evil shit. The only thing that I believe works are learning the kid empathy. Empathy is something that the kids develop, it isn't something that is fully there from the beginning. Right now your kid has no empathy with the kid that is bullied so there is no thing stopping her. So don't just tell our kid not to bully but make her understand and feel how the other kid feels when she is bullied. Eventualy the empathy will prevent the bullying. Even though you do this it will probably take a while until she is consistant with not bullying, but just keep at it.
 

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Pre-school has been made well aware she didn't pick this shit up at home, as her environment is pretty 'Happy, Sunshine, Rainbow, Peace-Man.' type of thing.
Good. If the pre-school has been notified that lil' Eva Cleansethenation Yesterdayshero is not exposed to anything hateful at home, everything should be ok.
 

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Oh Norm. There's nothing wrong with being culturally diverse. So long as those that decide to move to a country decide to, oh I don't know, do something 'silly' like being fluent in the language of the region. Or amalgamating to the point of fitting in. If I trounced on over to Afghanistan with a chick, I wouldn't expect her to be able to wear a two piece like it's Miami.

Then again, I'm funny like that.
 
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I think there is something wrong with your kid.. better get a team of doctors to take a look inside her brain.
 

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With my back to him, I took hold of the change bin I was using that was at head level, and did this goofy 180' turn and brought my arm down full force. Edge collided with his nose and smashed it all to shit. It was such a mess when he landed I thought I took it clean off. Blood was everywhere.

I turned back around, finished changing, and walked out like nothing happened amidst the general chaos behind me. Went to my next class. Maybe 20 minutes later, pair of cops walk in and 'escorted' me out of school. I was suspended for a month and nearly got expelled.
I love stories like this as well. Schools will do nothing about a real bully for years, but when a picked on kid strikes back, they're the one who gets in trouble.
 

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She could be one of those monsters that never develops empathy. I believe they're calling them psychopaths now. If that's the case she'll either end up in prison or become president.
 

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I have a serious question, is your kid going to be physically attractive?

The girl bullies who are physically violent are rarely good looking, while the ones who play the head games are usually very attractive.

It would be an interesting study if this type of behavior can start at such a young age, especially considering you have her in the "school setting" at an early age

A lot of nature vs. nurture here

Bullying seems to be a much bigger deal these days, I was never bullied but I was constantly harassed but a couple of the SPEDs of all people, I did have other pick fights with me - I was always the tallest kind in school and the biggest guy always has to deal with fuckos trying to impress themselves by taking on a bigger guy, luckily I was taught how to fight at an early age. I was in a couple of serious fights and I was always the one who got in the most trouble, even though I never started a fight.
 

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Pics? You know, for better understanding of whatever the story is about.
 

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I was never bullied but I was constantly harassed but a couple of the SPEDs of all people, I did have other pick fights with me - I was always the tallest kind in school and the biggest guy always has to deal with fuckos trying to impress themselves by taking on a bigger guy, luckily I was taught how to fight at an early age. I was in a couple of serious fights and I was always the one who got in the most trouble, even though I never started a fight.
thats considered bullying these days sir
The kid is 3. All 3-year-olds are retarded. Short of strangling family pets, there's no behavior that you really have to get all worried about with a 3-year-old. They're not even really trainable humans until like 6.
not to mention psychologists have determined that the a majority of people will never remember anything that happened before the age of 6 and further the vast majority (about 95% if i remember correctly) will remember a single event that happened before the age of 4