Bush, Texas at Odds Over Death Case

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Bush, Texas at Odds Over Death Case

Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:08:33 AM
By MARK SHERMAN
To put it bluntly, Texas wants President Bush to get out of the way of the state's plan to execute a Mexican for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.
Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin in what has become a confusing test of presidential power that the Supreme Court, which hears the case this week, ultimately will sort out.
The president wants to enforce a decision by the International Court of Justice that found the convictions of Medellin and 50 other Mexican-born prisoners violated their rights to legal help as outlined in the 1963 Vienna Convention.
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is the same court Bush has since said he plans to ignore if it makes similar decisions affecting state criminal laws.
"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.
Texas argues that neither the international court nor Bush has any say in Medellin's case.
Medellin was born in Mexico but spent much of his childhood in the United States. He was 18 in June 1993, when he and other members of the Black and Whites gang in Houston encountered two teenage girls on a railroad trestle.
The girls were gang-***** and strangled. Their bodies were found four days later.
Medellin was arrested a few days later. He was told he had a right to remain silent and have a lawyer present, but the police did not tell him that he could request assistance from the Mexican consulate.
Medellin gave a written confession. He was convicted of murder in the course of a sexual assault, a capital offense in Texas. A judge sentenced him to death in October 1994.
Medellin did not raise the lack of assistance from Mexican diplomats during his trial or sentencing. When he did claim his rights had been violated, Texas and federal courts turned him down because he had not objected at his trial. Mexico later sued the United States in the International Court of Justice in The Hague on behalf of Medellin and 50 other Mexicans on death row in the U.S.
 

Myhairygrundle

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Way to go. Pander to the mexicans for votes. GWB is no better than Hillary at this point....

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Kill the fucking worthless scumbag, repeatedly to learn them Mexicants that we won't tolerate their savage ways.
 

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LOL @ Mexico suing the US.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, why is Bush selectively supporting the world court?

Someone will probably bring a case to them charging him with war crimes in Iraq, if it hasn't happened already. What will he do then?
 
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Since they get better healthcare than most Americans why not let them enjoy all of our services?
 

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Way to go. Pander to the mexicans for votes. GWB is no better than Hillary at this point....

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Last I heard, Bush isn't running for anything that requires votes.

He really believes in what he's doing here. How it makes sense I have no idea, but he has a real soft spot for our friends south of the border.
 

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I guess I respect the fact that he is taking a stand for something he believes in even if I disagree with it.

Other than that, there isn't a lot else I can say about this that is positive.
 

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Hitler believed in killing das Juden :action-sm
 

Don the Radio Guy

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I guess I respect the fact that he is taking a stand for something he believes in even if I disagree with it.
Say what you will about Bush, he panders a little less than the average politician. Especially since he got re-elected.

Unfortunately, this stand is just ridiculous.
 

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Bush: Execute the retarded, but not the illegals.


Fuck Bush in his fucking ass. I'm sure in some strange way he's trying to keep this show of faith in his pocket, in case something comes about with Blackwater.


(that illegal looks like the retarded brother of Joe Francis)
 

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Bush, Texas at Odds Over Death Case

Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:08:33 AM
By MARK SHERMAN
To put it bluntly, Texas wants President Bush to get out of the way of the state's plan to execute a Mexican for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.
Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin in what has become a confusing test of presidential power that the Supreme Court, which hears the case this week, ultimately will sort out.
The president wants to enforce a decision by the International Court of Justice that found the convictions of Medellin and 50 other Mexican-born prisoners violated their rights to legal help as outlined in the 1963 Vienna Convention.
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Medellin was arrested a few days later. He was told he had a right to remain silent and have a lawyer present, but the police did not tell him that he could request assistance from the Mexican consulate.
Medellin gave a written confession. He was convicted of murder in the course of a sexual assault, a capital offense in Texas. A judge sentenced him to death in October 1994.

You have to let a foregin national contact his embassy or get legial
assistance from his government. If you were arrested in say Russia or Turkey you'd want to tak to the embassy wouldn't you before they hauled you off to the goulag or the firing squad. Texas executed a Canadian a few years ago without letting him contact his government (during the trial). caulsed a lot of poliitcal problems for the US. if you don't take care of another countries citizens how do you think yours will be treated over there?


Medellin did not raise the lack of assistance from Mexican diplomats during his trial or sentencing. When he did claim his rights had been violated, Texas and federal courts turned him down because he had not objected at his trial. Mexico later sued the United States in the International Court of Justice in The Hague on behalf of Medellin and 50 other Mexicans on death row in the U.S.

guess he didn't know he had the right. Should have a retrial, than give him the needle.