Canadian troops to disarm U.S. citizens?

distortion9

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This is fucked

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies


David Pugliese , Canwest News Service

Published: Friday, February 22, 2008
Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.
Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.
The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.
American soldiers arrive on board the HMCS TORONTO as part of a training exercise in carrying out a NATO presence patrol in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. A new agreement between the U.S. and Canadian militaries has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

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The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.
The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.
"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.
Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.
"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.
Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.
But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.
He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.
"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."
If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.
News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two militaries.
On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.
"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."
Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.
Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.
Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn't been released to the public as that requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken, he added.
 
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I'm sorry sir but I don't live under the law of any nation but this one. If anything ridiculous happened and they sent Canook troops to try to enforce martial law then I would be far from compliant.

I see that as an invasion and it wouldn't be pretty.

And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."
Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.
Then I wouldn't be bound by law to allow them to control my town/state and they would be seen as an invading force subject to attack.

Just sayin' :piss2
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Radioguy

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Odd, considering those recent Mexican incursions (couple of threads down).
 
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Well why wouldn't drug cartels be protected by government forces? It makes sense.

Those Mexicans are ridiculous.
Mexican incursions inflame border situation

House panel told of shootings by gunmen in Mexican military uniforms



Unidentified men unload bundles of drugs from a SUV that became stuck in the Rio Grande at Neely's Crossing, east of El Paso. Men in Mexican military uniforms and armed with automatic weapons provided cover for the group, according Hudspeth County Sheriff deputies that confronted the group.

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Jerry1

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It may have to do with the fact that terrorists were known to use the US/ Canadian border to sneak in to the country.
So if some terrorist strikes in the US and makes a run for the Canadian border then the US can go after him even if he makes it over the border. Plus it gives the US the option of going after any possible terrorist base of operations in Canada if that group struck the US. Remember this rule cuts both ways.
This sorta thing was bound to happen. The US and Canadian military have been working together for decades now. There is this thing called NORAD(North American Aerospace Defense Command) which is a joint US/Canadian military command to defend & control North American airspace. So US and Canadian fighter craft operating over each other's airspace is nothing new.
 

Vyce

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Oh god. More ammo for the "North American Union" Paulbot conspiracy theorists.