CERN claims faster-than-light particle measured

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GENEVA (AP) -- Scientists at the world's largest physics lab say they have clocked subatomic particles traveling faster than light. If that's true, it would break - if not severely twist - a fundamental pillar of physics.

Nothing is supposed to go faster than light. But scientists say that neutrinos - one of the strangest well-known particles in physics - smashed past the cosmic speed barrier of 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers).

The European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN, says the speeds were detected in a neutrino beam fired from Geneva to a lab 454 miles (730 kilometers) away in Italy.

Baffled scientists are asking others to independently verify the measurements or find other more mundane explanations for the measured speed.
 

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Probably related to the load I shot when I jacked to the Scarlett Johansson ass picture.
 

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they are wrong, fuck them
 

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"The speed of light is like a river....."
 
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It's the classic metric vs standard error....Ooops...I thought you meant inches not centimeters...Oh, ok...Looks like it was slower than the speed of light...nothing to see here...carry on..


If it is faster than light that means that they can fire it at a distant star and it would arrive before we see it fired...spoiler alert...neutrinos are ruining the surprise of super novas!
 

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So now that these "neutrinos"............as we'll call them, have broken the laws of physics, does that mean that they will start having babies and go on welfare for the rest of their lives?
 

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BREAKING NEWS: Error Undoes Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Results

It appears that the faster-than-light neutrino results, announced last September by the OPERA collaboration in Italy, was due to a mistake after all. A bad connection between a GPS unit and a computer may be to blame.

Physicists had detected neutrinos travelling from the CERN laboratory in Geneva to the Gran Sasso laboratory near L'Aquila that appeared to make the trip in about 60 nanoseconds less than light speed. Many other physicists suspected that the result was due to some kind of error, given that it seems at odds with Einstein's special theory of relativity, which says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. That theory has been vindicated by many experiments over the decades.

According to sources familiar with the experiment, the 60 nanoseconds discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the timing of the neutrinos' flight and an electronic card in a computer. After tightening the connection and then measuring the time it takes data to travel the length of the fiber, researchers found that the data arrive 60 nanoseconds earlier than assumed. Since this time is subtracted from the overall time of flight, it appears to explain the early arrival of the neutrinos. New data, however, will be needed to confirm this hypothesis.
 

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Universal course correction. The future reaching back into the past to undo the discovery, so that we don't all annhilate. Unfortunately, come December 21, some numbnuts will prove beyond the ability of the future world to undo it, and we're all screwed anyway. Have fun! :)
 

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while it sucks that it wasn't proven true, it's still awesome in my opinion. The scientists that put all the data out there questioned the results of their own work and opened it up for others to find the error. I don't look at this as a failure. I look at this as a proof that through peer review, the scientific process works. it's 2012 and STILL all the data proves that the theory created by Einstein nearly 100 years ago was right.
 

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Fuck those Euro bottom quarks. I used to work 1/4 mile from Fermilab, and had some acquaintances who worked the Tevatron and got summarily "reduced".
 

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Fuck those Euro bottom quarks. I used to work 1/4 mile from Fermilab, and had some acquaintances who worked the Tevatron and got summarily "reduced".
I guess everyone else got oxidized or somethin.
 

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Fuck those Euro bottom quarks. I used to work 1/4 mile from Fermilab, and had some acquaintances who worked the Tevatron and got summarily "reduced".
what's the area like near Fermilab? I have had a few recruiters call me about positions there.
 

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while it sucks that it wasn't proven true, it's still awesome in my opinion. The scientists that put all the data out there questioned the results of their own work and opened it up for others to find the error. I don't look at this as a failure. I look at this as a proof that through peer review, the scientific process works. it's 2012 and STILL all the data proves that the theory created by Einstein nearly 100 years ago was right.
Yeah, I know. I just really hope I'm alive for a really shocking discovery like that. Close, but no cigar.
 

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what's the area like near Fermilab? I have had a few recruiters call me about positions there.
Sorry I didn't see this 'till today...

Batavia, where it's located is just O.K., to the South is worse. But just North...Geneva & St. Charles are both nice. I've lived in Geneva before and loved it. Nice old fashioned Downtown amidst the new and trendy places. If you've seen "Road to Perdition", the scene where Tom Hanks goes to whack the Accountant in the Hotel is all downtown Geneva. If they like fishing, even better. The Fox River, where all my fishing pics are from, rolls through the center of each Town. If you want more...PM me.
 

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the 60 nanoseconds discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the timing of the neutrinos' flight and an electronic card in a computer

Probably a knockoff cable. My iPod doesn't sync right with the wonky cable I got from the chinks.