Chicago Alderman Ed Burke wants to BAN Red Bull and other Energy Drinks

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Ald. Ed Burke wants to ban Red Bull, other energy drinks

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter fspielman@suntimes.com January 17, 2013 4:53PM




Chicago would ban the sale and distribution of high-caffeine energy drinks — not just to minors, but to consumers of all ages — under a surprise crackdown proposed Thursday by the City Council’s most powerful alderman.
Ald. Edward M. Burke (14th), chairman of the City Council’s Finance Committee, proposed the blanket ban, citing the popularity of drinks such as Red Bull, Monster, Full Throttle and 5 Hour Energy among teenagers and young adults and the dangers those drinks can pose to their health.
But Burke’s ban would still allow Red Bull to be sold, generally targeting higher-caffeine drinks. Some of the others could still be available, but not in their larger sizes or more potent concentrations.
Last month, Health Committee Chairman George Cardenas (12th) proposed that minors under the age of 21 be prohibited from purchasing energy drinks in Chicago.
Cardenas said he wasn’t really interested in banning the sale of energy drinks to minors. He simply wanted to get the industry’s attention and educate parents and young people about the dangers of energy drinks.
“You start with that premise because it brings more attention to the problem. It’s a more serious conversation. If we just hold hearings, people won’t take it seriously,” Cardenas told the Chicago Sun-Times on the day he introduced the ordinance.
On Thursday, Cardenas said he was no longer pushing to ban the sale of energy drinks to minors, and he’s surprised that Burke wants to go even further.
“I’m not for banning anything. We need to educate the public and educate parents more than anything and work with the industry for better warnings and labeling on these products. We’re gonna modify it. We’re not gonna push a ban,” Cardenas said.
“We started with a big, broad ordinance that could bring everybody to the table and have good results. That was the aim. My aim was not to ban anything, but to accomplish the goal of not having teens or kids die from lack of education about these drinks that could harm them.”
Burke could not be reached for comment.
His ordinance states, “No person shall sell, give away, barter, exchange or otherwise furnish any energy drink.” Violators would face fines ranging from $100-to-$500 for each offense.
Retailers who repeatedly violate the citywide ban could have their business licenses suspended or revoked, the ordinance states.
The ordinance defines energy drinks as “a canned or bottled beverage which contains an amount of caffeine exceeding or equal to 180 milligrams-per-container and containing Taurine or Guarana.”
Under that definition, the typical can of Red Bull would apparently still be available in the city. The company’s website lists the caffeine content in a 8.4 ounce can as 80 milligrams, 100 mg. short of the ordinance’s threshold.
Monster’s 16-ounce can would just make it at 160 mg., but the 24-ounce Mega Monster can (240 mg.) would not.
5 Hour Energy Drink’s 2-ounce bottle (138 mg.) would be allowed, but the Extra Strength version (207 mg.) would not.
Full Throttle’s 16-ounce can (200 mg.) would be banned.
The preamble to Burke’s ordinance cites the “alarming rate” of teen consumption of energy drinks and notes that manufacturers label energy drinks as dietary supplements to “avoid federal regulation.”
It also states that the Food and Drug Administration “has received reports that link at least five deaths since 2009 to a beverage called Monster Energy.”
Those deaths include a 14-year-old girl who “died suddenly from a hearth arrhythmia that occurred when she drank two Monster Energy drinks over the course of two days,” the Burke ordinance states.
http://www.suntimes.com/17639879-76...-ban-on-red-bull-and-other-energy-drinks.html
 

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I've changed my tune on this stuff. I say good. Anyone who votes in a banning bureaucrat deserves what they get. Enjoy your watered down energy drinks, Shitcago.
 

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Those deaths include a 14-year-old girl who “died suddenly from a hearth arrhythmia that occurred when she drank two Monster Energy drinks over the course of two days,” the Burke ordinance states.
These dangerous fireplaces must be banned!
 

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But WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!!
 

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But WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!!
That's what bothers me the most. They all hide behind that
excuse because nobody will object for fear of being labeled
as not caring about kids' safety. It's despicable.

And I have had to deal with people that were doing shit
that was totally wrong and were hiding behind that excuse.
 

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WOWWWWWWWWWWWW this is almost as bad bloombergs ban on over 16oz sodas. God forbid they let ppl be responsible for themselves. On Monster they say ON THE FUCKING CAN do not drink more than 3 per day and only every 4 hrs
 

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Cardenas said he wasn’t really interested in banning the sale of energy drinks to minors. He simply wanted to get the industry’s attention and educate parents and young people about the dangers of energy drinks.
“You start with that premise because it brings more attention to the problem. It’s a more serious conversation. If we just hold hearings, people won’t take it seriously,” Cardenas told the Chicago Sun-Times on the day he introduced the ordinance.
Um . . . he just admitted that he wasn't serious, and he did it just to get headlines. SO WHY RUN THE STORY??!!??!?
 

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These things do have more caffeine in them than coffee. Some of them have 300+ milligrams of caffeine in them. Plus, they skirt around listing the caffeine amounts by using things like guarana which are basically plant-based caffeine. Not to mention all the other stuff that could be in them, like a month's worth of B vitamins.

I really want to err on the side of liberty but younger people's systems have a hard time handling that and there have been deaths nationwide from people under 16 consuming energy drinks and energy shot things like Stacker shots, 5 Hour Energy, etc. I actually would not oppose restricting the sale of energy shots and energy drinks to people 16 and older.

Oh shit. I'M TRENDY. Black helicopters and 50,000 drones seeing if you have Monster cans in your house MAAAAAAN.
 

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is anybody surprised at all?
thank God the politicians are here to steer us in the right direction
 

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These things do have more caffeine in them than coffee. Some of them have 300+ milligrams of caffeine in them. Plus, they skirt around listing the caffeine amounts by using things like guarana which are basically plant-based caffeine. Not to mention all the other stuff that could be in them, like a month's worth of B vitamins.

I really want to err on the side of liberty but younger people's systems have a hard time handling that and there have been deaths nationwide from people under 16 consuming energy drinks and energy shot things like Stacker shots, 5 Hour Energy, etc. I actually would not oppose restricting the sale of energy shots and energy drinks to people 16 and older.

Oh shit. I'M TRENDY. Black helicopters and 50,000 drones seeing if you have Monster cans in your house MAAAAAAN.
If you're 15 and need artificial "energy" in a can, maybe you shouldn't live long enough to reproduce. Dar-win.
 

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This is like the ephedrine thing with the young people doing sports and then bam, heart blows up. FDA regulates that now and rightfully so.
 

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These things do have more caffeine in them than coffee. Some of them have 300+ milligrams of caffeine in them. Plus, they skirt around listing the caffeine amounts by using things like guarana which are basically plant-based caffeine. Not to mention all the other stuff that could be in them, like a month's worth of B vitamins.

I really want to err on the side of liberty but younger people's systems have a hard time handling that and there have been deaths nationwide from people under 16 consuming energy drinks and energy shot things like Stacker shots, 5 Hour Energy, etc. I actually would not oppose restricting the sale of energy shots and energy drinks to people 16 and older.

Oh shit. I'M TRENDY. Black helicopters and 50,000 drones seeing if you have Monster cans in your house MAAAAAAN.
I do believe it's the parents job to make that decision. Pretty sure they call that parenting. If the kid drinks it and dies that's the parents fault for not parenting properly and failing to educate their child of the inherent dangers of that much caffeine in a young system. It should not be the governments role to parent children. The furthest I'd be ok with the government going is say minors can't buy any without an adult present force them to parent.

/currently drinking a monster
 
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There are 500 fewer young people who won't be consuming energy drinks.

Chicago: I've enjoyed my trips there, wouldn't want to live there.
 

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Chicago: The trips there sucked and you'd have to bribe me in the 6 figure range for me to live there. At least half of the city is sufficiently non-White and ghetto/barrio enough that I wouldn't entertain
living there for a second.
 

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Chicago should butt the fuck out of this issue even though I think those drinks suck and are really not good for your health. This constant nanny bullshit and utopia chasing has to end. But having said that, I think the high caffeine in those things can make certain people crazy and I am not totally unsympathetic to the thought of some kind of regulation of this stuff.
 

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just more nanny state bull shit. this country is quickly turning into demolition man
 

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I used to wash down 4 or 5 no-doz with a mountain dew 20 years before red bull. Some large starbucks coffees have 500 mg of caffiene, so fucking what. Nanny state, fuck yeah!
 

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the only energy drink ive ever had was red bull and vodka and i didn't really like it