Children sickened after drinking raw milk

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Where's the jack-booted federal agents when you really need them? :icon_cool

Raw milk recalled after children take ill

Erin Allday, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 16, 2011

(11-16) 15:11 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Raw milk produced by a Fresno dairy is being recalled after five California children, including two siblings in Contra Costa County, became ill from a bacteria believed to have been found in the milk.

The children were sickened by the same strain of E. coli, according to state public health epidemiologists. While investigators have not been able to find that strain in the milk itself, all five children had recently consumed raw milk from the same dairy, Organic Pastures.

The state public health and food and agriculture departments issued the recall notice Tuesday. It affects all Organic Pastures raw dairy products except for cheeses aged for at least 60 days. The dairy is not allowed to sell raw milk until an investigation of its operations is complete.

Organic Pastures chief executive Mark McAfee said Wednesday that the dairy has not found E. coli in any of its products tested, and he's not convinced the children were sickened by his milk. He added that he's cooperating with state investigators and hopes to have his operation running again in seven to 10 days.

All five children survived the illness, although three were hospitalized with a complication that can cause kidney failure. The two Contra Costa children, who are both under age 5, remain in the hospital, according to county public health officials, who said they became sick about four weeks ago.

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Meh it's legal there as long as the dairy has the correct state permits... still I wouldn't drink it.
 

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Meh it's legal there as long as the dairy has the correct state permits... still I wouldn't drink it.
How 'bout a nice medium rare stake, would you eat that? Comes from the same cows the milk comes from.
 

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Where's the jack-booted federal agents when you really need them? :icon_cool
Cool, sounds like the system worked: A few kids got sick, so they recalled the milk even though there is no evidence (yet) that the milk actually caused it. I'm sure it would have been better if the feds had barged in with guns drawn a few years ago and put his whole company out of business and everyone out of a job. :action-sm


Organic Pastures chief executive Mark McAfee said Wednesday that the dairy has not found E. coli in any of its products tested, and he's not convinced the children were sickened by his milk. He added that he's cooperating with state investigators and hopes to have his operation running again in seven to 10 days.
 

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How 'bout a nice medium rare stake, would you eat that? Comes from the same cows the milk comes from.
Raw milk is the same as raw steak.

Pasteurizing milk is the same as cooking a steak medium rare... only a retard would think raw is "healthier" than cooked... for both meat and milk.
 

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Cool, sounds like the system worked: A few kids got sick, so they recalled the milk even though there is no evidence (yet) that the milk actually caused it. I'm sure it would have been better if the feds had barged in with guns drawn a few years ago and put his whole company out of business and everyone out of a job. :action-sm
I've got no problem with people being able to drink raw milk, although I wouldn't touch it myself. I'm supportive of anything that thins out the hippie herd.
 
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People who who want to be healthy... and by healthy I mean puking and shitting their E. coli colonized guts out.

Don't forget:

A wide variety of germs that are sometimes found in raw milk, can make people sick, including bacteria (e.g., Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis (a cause of tuberculosis), Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli [e.g., E. coli O157], Shigella, Yersinia), parasites (e.g., Giardia AKA Beaver Fever heh), and viruses (e.g., norovirus).

Sorry to quote the jack booted thugs at the CDC...
 

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Don't forget:

A wide variety of germs that are sometimes found in raw milk, can make people sick, including bacteria (e.g., Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis (a cause of tuberculosis), Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli [e.g., E. coli O157], Shigella, Yersinia), parasites (e.g., Giardia AKA Beaver Fever heh), and viruses (e.g., norovirus).

Sorry to quote the jack booted thugs at the CDC...
Campylobacter.

That's the little motherfucker that got me. Was hiding in the mayo not the milk though. Put me through 5 straight day of the intestinal ultraviolence... real horror show.

No thank you... the hippies can keep that shit.
 
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Yep that's a charming one... got something last year where I had to shit (actually was shoot warm soup out of my asshole) basically every 20 minutes for like 3 days straight.

Thought I had intestinal bleeding until I realized I just drank a huge bottle of Fruit Punch Gatorade... drank some Grape... came out purple... gah that was awful.

Only thing that kept me hydrated was Pedialite...
 

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Just to put things in perspective: while you were discussing this tummy ache caused by too little government supervision, dozens of kids died in car accidents. On government owned roads.

Raw milk is the same as raw steak.

Pasteurizing milk is the same as cooking a steak medium rare... only a retard would think raw is "healthier" than cooked... for both meat and milk.
If you prepare a stake medium rare, it doesn't destroy the bacteria in the center. It doesn't even make them uncomfortable.

It's just that the vast majority of cows don't have the bacteria, and even if they were to have it, both the meat and milk are generally collected under conditions which avoid getting them infected. That's why it's fine to eat undercooked stake and drink raw milk.

Don't forget:

A wide variety of germs that are sometimes found in raw milk, can make people sick, including bacteria (e.g., Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis (a cause of tuberculosis), Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli [e.g., E. coli O157], Shigella, Yersinia), parasites (e.g., Giardia AKA Beaver Fever heh), and viruses (e.g., norovirus).

Sorry to quote the jack booted thugs at the CDC...
Great. And if sometimes was a number, that would be information. As it is, it's not. Sometimes drinking water kills people. In fact it kills people whaaaay more often than milk.
 

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Raw milk is necessary to make some cheeses. I'd try it to see what the big difference is.
 
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If you prepare a stake medium rare, it doesn't destroy the bacteria in the center. It doesn't even make them uncomfortable.

It's just that the vast majority of cows don't have the bacteria, and even if they were to have it, both the meat and milk are generally collected under conditions which avoid getting them infected. That's why it's fine to eat undercooked stake and drink raw milk.



Great. And if sometimes was a number, that would be information. As it is, it's not. Sometimes drinking water kills people. In fact it kills people whaaaay more often than milk.
Well I guess I could count the federally reported ones here... then go through each state and gather those reports as well I guess...
 

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Same ones that don't inoculate their children...
Personally, I hate the taste of raw milk. I only like low fat milk.

But the raw milk people have all kinds of valid points: there is some evidence that pasteurized milk is bad for the stomach. Not anything definitive though, as far as I know, but it's pretty solid.

It also makes sense to say that the more processed your food is, the more likely it is to be harmful in some way. We have evolved to have a symbiotic relationship with all kinds of bacteria and viruses that are found in traditional foods, for instance, and sterilizing everything we consume and come into contact with is scientifically proven to harm people.

So don't be an arrogant retard. If you wanna discuss the merits of their argument, go ahead. But comparing this to someone openly going against medical science, and refusing to inoculate his kids, based on nothing except "the government kida, sorta (but not really) says so" is stupid.
 

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Well I guess I could count the federally reported ones here... then go through each state and gather those reports as well I guess...
Go ahead. The end result would prove how much of a non-issue this is.
 

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Don't forget:

A wide variety of germs that are sometimes found in raw milk, can make people sick, including bacteria (e.g., Giardia AKA Beaver Fever heh).

Sorry to quote the jack booted thugs at the CDC...

I got a fever and the only prescription, is more beaver!!