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Coke & Pepsi thank you for the Corporate Welfare

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by CousinDave, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. CousinDave

    CousinDave Registered User

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    Proof that food stamps are nothing but Corporate Welfare


    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/19/washington-rejects-n-y-c-ban-on-use-of-food-stamps-to-buy-sodas/?hp

     
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    Zero points for not showing your work.
     
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    Sounds like more "nanny state"legislation.

    I hate that shit.
     
  4. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    We need to go back to handing out loaves of bread and government cheese.
     
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    And powdered milk.
     
  6. CousinDave

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    Yea that's the only reason why Bloomberg is against food stamps for soda

    My point is that food stamps are not about providing proper nutrition to poor kids, its about corporate welfare, otherwise you couldn't buy any "comfort" food with foods stamps and why does the Dept of Agriculture administer the food stamp program instead of Health & Human Services
     
  7. CousinDave

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    Well the problem with that was that more food was being dumped than given away - Your typical food stamp recipient isn't interested in those types of food.

    I can remember when I was a little kid, they were going door to door trying to give away cheese & bags of rice to anyone, because otherwise the local agency would get less from the state & national gov'ts - it got to the point they just dumping the stuff in the river. I remember that cheese was good.

    Oh they can't trade food for cash or cigarettes & alcohol as easily as they can ATM type cards & vouchers
     
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    Didn't it say in that article that it would be too much work for the system to actively discriminate against 'unhealthy' foods?

    Whether you're for the food stamp program or not is irrelevant, it's about providing folks with the means to acquire groceries, not about helping to prop up food companies. Stop trying to make this into something it's obviously not. Besides, Coke and Pepsi would do just fine without the folks acquiring their products with stamps.
     
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    I believe it is...
    He's a nanny mayor.
     
  10. MayrMeninoCrash

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    You were on Government Aid and no one helped you?

     
  11. Josh_R

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    In Ohio, (at least at Save-A-Lot grocery store) the cash register readout says "FS Eligible" next to certain foods, and it totals up the amount of eligible and ineligible food prior to payment. I assume that things like beer, candy, and other bullshit could easily be placed on that list without too much hassle.

    That isn't entirely true. Nancy Pelosi and the director of the Dept of Ag both have tried to spin food stamps as being a stimulus program. Thus they believe that they are creating jobs at whichever company makes the products that the food stamps are being spent on; this includes Coke and Pepsi.
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-agriculture-secretary-food-stamps
     
  12. MayrMeninoCrash

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    Since I'm somewhat ignorant about the DAg Food Stamp/EBT program, do the big manufacturers give the government a break for offering their foods for the program? FOr instance, Kelloggs probably sells a lot of corn flakes to food stamp recipients. Do they offer the government a break when their foods are purchased or do they earn the same, whether bought by a welfare queen or Bill Gates.
     
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    If you know anything about food stamps you'd know there is
    a large list of foods that can't be bought with them. This kind
    of legislation is just a waste of time and resources. More feel
    good legislation by people trying to meddle in everybody's lives.
     
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    Wait, so now CE is buying Pelosi bullshit?
     
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    If they get hungry enough they'll eat whatever they're given.
     
  16. Josh_R

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    I'm not sure I get it. Do you mean are people her actually buying Nancy Pelosi's bullshit? If so, then no. I only used it to illustrate that those in government believe that food stamps are stimulus, not that I do.
     
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    Then it would take a programmer about 30 seconds to write the code that would make soda ineligible to be purchased with food stamps. Every week stores program their systems with sale prices

    I'm against gov't interference in peoples lives as much as you are, but if the tax payers are going to be forced into paying for food for people, then the tax payers have a right to decide what food they should be eating.
     
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    I don't think so. The retailers would be the ones to cut the government a break, since they buy the food in bulk from the manufacturer and have no way of telling what portion will go to food stamps. Maybe I'm wrong in assuming that grocery stores buy the products first and then sell them at whatever markup they want. Either way, cutting the government a break would probably mean a loss of profit margin for the store, which would discourage stores from accepting food stamps. Kind of like how doctors are refusing medicare patients because the government doesn't pay enough.
     
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    I guess I just don't get the hard on for soft drinks. Let em drink their grape soda.
    It's a fuck of a lot cheaper than other drinks. If I'm paying, let em drink cheap shit.
     
  20. CousinDave

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    40+ million people are on food stamps in this country - every single one of them who is permanently on food stamps is obese, I can assure you that Coke and Pepsi benefit greatly from food stamps - Pepsi more so, since they also make Fritos.
     
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    And maybe they're fat because they don't fucking work.

    Laying around doing nothing tends to do that to people.
     
  22. Glenn Dandy

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    Make drugs legal and kill people already.

    this is better than Twinkies... dead a week later.. good riddance burden
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  23. Josh_R

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    If I'm paying, let them go fuck themselves and drink the free tap water that comes out of the sink.
     
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    But then you're not paying. Of course I agree with that but we
    all know that won't ever really happen.
     
  25. CousinDave

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    The whole Dept of Agriculture exists for the purpose of promoting corporate welfare, the joke is that there are more Dept of Ag agents than there are farmers, and anytime a farmer dies someone from the Dept of Ag has to take an early retirement.

    There are all kinds of farm subsidies and minimum prices especially with corn & milk

    As for the retailers, typically the big grocery stores do not own most of the name brand product in the stores, not only do they take a cut of the price they also charge the manufacturers for shelf space and advertising, and then a lot of the manufacturers have to come in and stock the shelves themselves.
     

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