Company: We're not hiring until Obama is gone

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And of course he gets harassed by DHS, FBI and the Secret Service...

WACO, Ga. -- A west Georgia business owner is stirring up controversy with signs he posted on his company's trucks, for all to see as the trucks roll up and down roads, highways and interstates:

"New Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone."

"Can't afford it," explained the employer, Bill Looman, Tuesday evening. "I've got people that I want to hire now, but I just can't afford it. And I don't foresee that I'll be able to afford it unless some things change in D.C."

Looman's company is U.S. Cranes, LLC. He said he put up the signs, and first posted pictures of the signs on his personal Facebook page, six months ago, and he said he received mostly positive reaction from people, "about 20-to-one positive."

But for some reason, one of the photos went viral on the Internet on Monday.

And the reaction has been so intense, pro and con, he's had to have his phones disconnected because of the non-stop calls, and he's had to temporarily shut down his company's website because of all the traffic crashing the system.

Looman made it clear, talking with 11Alive's Jon Shirek, that he is not refusing to hire to make some political point; it's that he doesn't believe he can hire anyone, because of the economy. And he blames the Obama administration.

"The way the economy's running, and the way my business has been hampered by the economy, and the policies of the people in power, I felt that it was necessary to voice my opinion, and predict that I wouldn't be able to do any hiring," he said.

Looman did receive some unexpected attention not long after he put up his signs and Facebook photos. He said someone, and he thinks he knows who it was, reported him to the FBI as a threat to national security. He said the accusation filtered its way through the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and finally the Secret Service. Agents interviewed him.

"The Secret Service left here, they were in a good mood and laughing," Looman said. "I got the feeling they thought it was kind of ridiculous, and a waste of their time."

So Bill Looman is keeping the signs up, and the photos up -- stirring up a lot of debate.

"I just spent 10 years in the Marine Corps protecting the rights of people... the First Amendment, and the Second Amendment and the [rest of the] Bill of Rights," he said. "Lord knows they're calling me at 2 in the morning, all night long, and voicing their opinion. And I respect their right to do that. I'm getting a reaction, a lot of it's negative, now. But a lot of people are waking up."
Stay classy libtards and Obama regime bureaucrat thugs...
 

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I feel bad for the Secret Service agents that had to go out and bug the guy because some do-gooder libtard faggot flagged him.
 
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I have clients tell me essentially the same thing every day. Granted, they don't put it on billboards, but until they know how their expense projections are going to be affected over the next few years, they can't afford to take the risk of new hires.
 

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I wish this guy would be more specific. He doesn't cite any policies that are affecting his business. Sounds like he's a dumbass if he couldn't make any money in heavy construction with all that stimulus money being thrown around. Trying to drum up business playing into conservative talking points sounds like what he's doing.
 

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I have clients tell me essentially the same thing every day. Granted, they don't put it on billboards, but until they know how their expense projections are going to be affected over the next few years, they can't afford to take the risk of new hires.
This.

For all the bullshit about lower taxes, etc., what is truly vital is certainty. Give me a roadmap that I can gameplan for. If it's a rocky road, where you're raising taxes, then tell me that. If it's a smooth road, where you're lowering taxes, then tell me that.

Obviously as a businessman I would prefer the lower taxes. That frees up more money so I can build my business faster. I can hire more people, I have more money to spend on goods to make my business grow, and that helps the economy. But if you're going to fuck me up the ass, at least tell me ahead of time so I can lube up properly.

Certainty is more important than lower taxes. That doesn't mean lower taxes aren't important, but fucking let me know so I can make long-term plans, dammit.
 

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The only difference between the presidential styles and policies of Bush and Obama were that Bush had a cooperative Congress working for him. Obama has had to deal with uncertainty and stalemate the whole time, even when Pelosi and Reid were running the show. What we really need is for Boehner and McConnell to act as if Bush was still in office and allow Obama to pass the legislations that he thinks the country needs to succeed. Those guys need to cooperate or get out.
 

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I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but why is Obama a more uncertain President/responsible for a more uncertain era than any other President? As business people, I can understand you feeling more secure under Bush but was that security that much more "real" then?
 

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I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but why is Obama a more uncertain President/responsible for a more uncertain era than any other President? As business people, I can understand you feeling more secure under Bush but was that security that much more "real" then?

It just comes down to a level of confidence

The current POTUS is incompetent and he has surrounded him self with out incompetents

If Hillary were the POTUS this would not be a problem, as whether people like the policies of Hillary or not (and they would be practically identical to Little Barry's) they still would have confidence in her as a manager.
 

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The only difference between the presidential styles and policies of Bush and Obama were that Bush had a cooperative Congress working for him. Obama has had to deal with uncertainty and stalemate the whole time, even when Pelosi and Reid were running the show. What we really need is for Boehner and McConnell to act as if Bush was still in office and allow Obama to pass the legislations that he thinks the country needs to succeed. Those guys need to cooperate or get out.


Why do they have to be the ones to cooperate and not Little Barry?
 

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I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but why is Obama a more uncertain President/responsible for a more uncertain era than any other President? As business people, I can understand you feeling more secure under Bush but was that security that much more "real" then?
I don't know about business as a whole, but if your business niche is medicine/healthcare, then your financial future has NEVER been more uncertain and more threatened that it is with the imminent threat of Obamacare being instituted. And yes, the lack of financial security for healthcare workers is very real under the clusterfuck that Obamacare will certainly be if it should become the law of the land.
 

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It just comes down to a level of confidence

The current POTUS is incompetent and he has surrounded him self with out incompetents

If Hillary were the POTUS this would not be a problem, as whether people like the policies of Hillary or not (and they would be practically identical to Little Barry's) they still would have confidence in her as a manager.
I'd like to add that Hillary would actually be competent at the politics of governing. President Obama is really good at the politics of getting elected, but the guy just isn't good at working with people who don't agree with him. He's a a pure preach-to-the-choir guy.

Say what you want about President Bush, but even when he owned Congress he got TEDDY FUCKING KENNEDY to co-sponsor NCLB for him. Yes, NCLB is a mess, but on the mechanics of governing, President Bush was smart enough and wiley enough to get Teddy on board, even when he didn't really need to.

Meanwhile, President Obama didn't have a substantive meeting with Republicans until he lost Congress.

President Obama just isn't good at working with people he doesn't like. As BS as you may think he was, President Bush got along on a personal basis with politicians he disagreed with. Ditto for President Clinton. Seriously, even after getting IMPEACHED President Clinton was friendlier to an opposition Congress than President Obama is to his opposition Congress.

Deep down, President Obama sees Republicans as The Enemy. He sees this country's enemies as opponents and he sees domestic opponents as enemies. That's fucking retarded.

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VMS nailed it. Certainty and consistency are the most important things for businesses. Right now companies don't know what will change with tax, regulation, and health care costs... So they are reluctant to expand and hire. This is the problem with electing pure politicians, they simply have no idea how the business world fuctions. If we simplified the tax code and required amendment-level votes to change it substantially, and simplified/repealed Obama-care, we would see an immediate drop in unemployment.
 

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This guy is welcome to express whatever political positions he wants obviously but would you want to work for a company that consists of such a pessimistic owner willing to risk his fortunes and future on something like who sits in the Oval Office. Good, don't hire anyone and watch your competitors snap up all the best talent. Then when the economy turns around your competitors will be positioned to succeed and you'll be positioned for the bankruptcy court.
 

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VMS nailed it. Certainty and consistency are the most important things for businesses. Right now companies don't know what will change with tax, regulation, and health care costs.
Why are things less certain with Obama? How can you argue that healthcare costs were a predictable certainty before HCR was passed? And put your partisan goggles aside, go back to early 2003, with threats of terrorism and war with Iraq and tell me how the economy was more secure back then than it is now.
 

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VMS nailed it. Certainty and consistency are the most important things for businesses. Right now companies don't know what will change with tax, regulation, and health care costs... So they are reluctant to expand and hire. This is the problem with electing pure politicians, they simply have no idea how the business world fuctions. If we simplified the tax code and required amendment-level votes to change it substantially, and simplified/repealed Obama-care, we would see an immediate drop in unemployment.
For example, can anyone really say we won't end up with a Frfench-style unemployment system? In France, the owner of a business has to keep paying fired worker for months. It's a way of taking some of the unemplolyment burden off the government's shoulders.

As bad as state and federal budgets are right now, can you really say that won't happen? It's unlikely as hell here in the US, but would YOU risk a business you've built for your entire life on that?

There are a million little bullshit things like that which scares the ever-loving Bejeesus out of employers. I wake up at night, worried that this person or that person will sue me: do I add the danger of the government changing the rules on me to fuck me over?

Give me a level playing field and get out of my way. *I* will fucking save this economy, or at least my corner of it. And people like me will save their corners. We can do this without you, Big Government. YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT US. All you can do is make a shitty economy more comfortable for the wage slaves.

Barring that, at least give me a reliable map on just how badly you're going to butt-fuck me. I may not be able to save the economy that way, but I can at least keep my corner of it as-is, which is at least as much as you're doing, Big Government.

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I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but why is Obama a more uncertain President/responsible for a more uncertain era than any other President? As business people, I can understand you feeling more secure under Bush but was that security that much more "real" then?
Because a country's economic security is directly dependent on its level of debt. Whenever it rises above the threshold of 90 to 100% of GDP, the economic future of that country is unclear at best. The only way to clarify that future would be for the government to present a credible plan to lower that debt.

Such a plan has not been presented. Everything Obama suggested up to this point has been populist nonsense, backed by ridiculous claims on who is and who isn't paying the bulk of taxes in the United States.
 

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Anyone hear what the guy behind Home Depot had to say the other day?

Home Depot Co-Founder: If 2012 goes the way of big government, I pity all of us
Posted by The Right Scoop on Nov 21, 2011 in Politics | 66 Comments

Bernie Marcus, Home Depot Co-Founder says that he doesn’t “know a businessman in his right mind…that would expand their business in this market or do anything to get rid of the cash flow that they have.” He says that it’s come to the point where we are going to go the way of big government or the way of creating jobs, and that “2012 is now setting up to be the ultimate decision for this country on where we’re going to end up and if it doesn’t go the right way, I pity all of us.”

This is exactly the tone that we need to hear from businessmen and entrepreneurs. Most of America is disconnected from what they see on a daily basis and they really need to speak out like this to motivate the American public to not only vote for a Republican as president, but also and more importantly a majority of Republicans in the Senate and the House. It is that critical.

Here’s the clip:
Video at link and http://www.mrctv.org/videos/home-depot-co-founder-very-bad-time-our-history
 
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The only difference between the presidential styles and policies of Bush and Obama were that Bush had a cooperative Congress working for him. Obama has had to deal with uncertainty and stalemate the whole time, even when Pelosi and Reid were running the show. What we really need is for Boehner and McConnell to act as if Bush was still in office and allow Obama to pass the legislations that he thinks the country needs to succeed. Those guys need to cooperate or get out.
You're joking, right? Because 2/3s of Obama's presidency has been with a Dem Congress... We didn't vote in the cock-blockers until last year.
 

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You're joking, right? Because 2/3s of Obama's presidency has been with a Dem Congress... We didn't vote in the cock-blockers until last year.
Ahhh.... But he said "cooperative", not "Democratic". President Obama is such a brilliant leader that he couldn't lead the party he's the head of, and couldn't get his bills passed when he had A FILLIBUSTER PROOF MAJORITY.

This is where, if I were on my home PC, I'd post the famous President Obama "Leadership" poster.

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