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Cops Want Warantless Searches On Your House With Drug Sniffing Dogs

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by KRSOne, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. KRSOne

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    Supreme Court considers reach of drug-detection dogs

    The guy who wrote this thinks we still have privacy rights.

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  2. Atomic Fireball

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    What are you trying to hide? If you've got nothing to hide you shouldn't have any problem with the police and their pups taking a harmless look around your home.
     
  3. Cunt Smasher

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    That's exactly what every dictator in the history of the world said. There is absolutely nothing stopping some asshole cop from saying the dog alerted. Can't ask the dog, can you?
     
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    Um, no. Nobody gets into my home without a warrant and I don't have anything to hide.

    Now on the chance that you posted that to troll Kirk and
    get his dander up, carry on. ;)
     
  5. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    Drug-sniffing dogs are terribly inaccurate.
     
  6. kidconnor

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    I don't get the picture. It's the cops fault for sending you to jail if you get caught?

    Agree or disagree with the drug laws, specifically the marijuana laws, there is not one person that doesn't know the risk if they are caught carrying or smoking marjuana. Its a very recognizable smell, and in some cases very strong, even in little amounts. If you want to take that risk then just man up and accept the punishment if you get caught.

    Now carry on about how cops get hard ons when they smell it and how they love to brag to each other how many people now have records because of their awesomeness.
     
  7. KRSOne

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    The drug war is being ran under the guise that its to protect us from ourselves. But in reality the drug war creates crime and destroys lives.
     
  8. Psychopath

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    I would say so, they sniff drugs. Who can trust their judgement when they have an addiction to sniffing drugs.
     
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    No, but it's the way you get caught here that's troubling. Wanna come into
    my house? Go to court and get a warrant. Just a hit by a dog shouldn't
    be enough to come into my house. A judge needs to make that decision.

    I've actually been thru a traffic stop where the cop smelled
    something and didn't bust everyone in the car because we
    were polite and didn't give him any shit. I never even got a
    ticket. Just a warning. Pot makes you hungry, not stupid.
     
  10. Psychopath

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    No, it's run to make money.
     
  11. Cunt Smasher

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    It took years to get DNA admissible as evidence, by the dumb dog handled by a entirely fallible human? I think not.
     
  12. Lord Zero

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    They have no problem showing off how many drugs they confiscate while pretending that they're actually making a dent in the problem. That spells "douche" to me.
     
  13. Don the Radio Guy

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    Get rid of the problem of dogs trained to hit on command and we can talk.
     
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    What kind of monkey business are Kirk and you guys up to anyway?
     
  15. Sunsetspawn

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    Come on now, don't be "that guy," especially on wackbag. I realize it often looks like a conservitard circle jerk around here, but it's actually a libertarian circle jerk.

    Although I'll explain it just in case you didn't get it. It's the cops fault for giving a damn about it in the first place as the only danger in smoking cannabis is the legal ramifications.

    However, there is a difference between "real life" and "theory." "In theory" cannabis smokers should be arrested, but in real life, cops tend to leave harmless, taxpaying potheads alone. Of course, I'm sure there are many factors that come into play here, but I know for certain that the battle-hardened cops of NYC will leave respectful white folks alone if nobody's rights are being violated.
     
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    fuck the dog beware of the owner
     
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    Exactly. The dog only does what it's trained to do.
     
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    But I am that guy. I certainly don't need the real life vs theory explination.

    But my point was is definitely isn't the cops fault for making a legal arrest. His fault? The fault lies with the person who took the risk carrying or smoking in the first place when they knew the ramifications yet wants to sit in the cell bitching that the cop is at fault for not giving them a break. Don't put the cop in a position to decide on whether or not to give you a break. The only one at fault is yourself. Not society, not the money hungry towns, not the evil pot naysayers.. its the persons fault.


    Now debating the use of dogs and whether its enough to enter a house is the issue.

    There are a lot of cases that get decided in the supreme courts that affect what a cop can and can't do. It evolves and changes daily. I don't think the issue is cops walking up to every door with a dog hoping for a hit. Maybe they need cooberating evidence or a reason to be at the house. But its issues like this that need clarification as long as drug laws exist.

    I get the article but the picture that accompanied it wasn't needed.
     
  19. LiddyRules

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    Russell Brand and PowerPoint Dave did an entire in depth analysis into this theory.
     
  20. BIV

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    Drugs to sniff your dog with a cop searching house.
     
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    I'm with you on this one. Sorry guys, most of us feel that the drug laws are in need of an overhaul, but to fault a police officer for upholding the laws on the books is retarded. Just because you don't believe the law should be there doesn't mean you can ignore it.

    I used to smoke pot here and there. I had an eighth that lasted me 6 months. That's how rarely I smoked. Now that I have my license to carry, it can be revoked immediately if I get caught with even the smallest amount of pot. It's been 2 or 3 years since I have smoked up and I don't miss it. My concealed carry license means more to me than the ability to smoke up every so often.



    Back to the topic of the thread, using a dog to sniff around front doors amounts to a fishing expedition in my eyes. There are too many problems with it. Like Don mentioned, the dog could be trained to give a false hit on command. I don't believe it's that nefarious though. A dog could unwittingly be trained to give a false hit here and there. Doesn't the dog get a reward after giving a hit? Lets just say the dog learns that behavior and wants a reward? I'd say the chances are small, but it could happen. That small amount of doubt in my mind is enough to say that a hit on someone's front door doesn't automatically give you probable cause for a search.
     
  22. Creasy Bear

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    I trust the cops to properly use drug sniffing dogs about as much as I trust them to properly use their polygraph "lie detectors"... none. I trust them none much.

    The cops us lie detectors as a pseudoscientific tool of intimidation, and I can totally see them using drug sniffing dogs as a probable cause golden ticket... like a blank check search warrant. It's totally up to the opinion of the K-9 handler to discern what constitutes a drug dog "hit", and a dog can't be calibrated like a breathalyzer or a lidar gun... matter of fact... a dog could EASILY be trained to give a false "hit" signal at its handler's bidding.

    It's fucking insane handing this kind of broad search authority to the police.

    Whatever incriminating evidence is found as a result of a "drug sniffing dog search", should be no more admissible in court as the results of a polygraph.

    Shit... why don't we hand cops dowsing rods, so they can scan houses for probable cause to search?

    "My paranormal witchin' stick is a' twitchin', boys... bust the door down!"

    Fucking bananas.
     
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    You're going to sit there and pretend like those cops don't exist?
     
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    You'll get arrested, then they confiscate your house, like in the other thread. Not out of the question at all.
     

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