NETFLIX Daredevil

JoeyDVDZ

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So, anyone watching this? I'm checking out the first episode, and so far so good. Pretty decent fight scene to start it off (after an abbreviated origin story sequence) and a little Deborah Anne Woll side boob. Hoping we get some actual full frontal finally, for the True Blood fans who watched in disappointment as she teased us over and over again for years...

btw, I did look for a thread for this, found a bunch of generic threads that mentioned this, but none dedicated specifically to Daredevil.
 

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You'd think one of those nerds that's always going on about comic book movies would have started a thread when it was announced like 2 years ago.
 

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You'd think one of those nerds that's always going on about comic book movies would have started a thread when it was announced like 2 years ago.
I'm sure someone did... I was far too lazy to dig back that far. Have you MET me? :p Shit, I have a safe for five fucking years, still unopened. The only thing lazier than me may be the tree sloth.
 

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That was a multi-purpose thread; this one is specific to Daredevil. So there.
 

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I just finished episode 9 tonight before GoT came on. I am really liking the series. Hopefully shows like this will give network tv the kick in the ass they need today. If they put out dark, gritty shows like Daredevil, their current sponsors might not like it, but I am sure there would be companies lining up to take their place.
 

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Marvel just bitchslapped Gotham. Kevin Fucking Feige. I don't have any other way to explain how on-point Marvel has been since '08. Even the Thor movies and the Hulk stand-alone flick would have been considered pretty good superhero movies back in '05.

From one of the Nerdist podcasts with a Marvel writer, it seems that Feige flies all the scripts past a select group of Marvel comic writers for a thumbs up or down. That is SO much better than DC/WB's attitude, where the comic guys are lucky if they get tickets to the premiere.
 

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Only seen the first two so far, but I'm in. Love the tone and feel of the show. The CW does well with their "gritty" DC shows, but they're nothing like this. That single-take hallway fight in episode 2 is just a thing of beauty.
 

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first full pictures of red costume.



 

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Marvel just bitchslapped Gotham. Kevin Fucking Feige. I don't have any other way to explain how on-point Marvel has been since '08. Even the Thor movies and the Hulk stand-alone flick would have been considered pretty good superhero movies back in '05.

From one of the Nerdist podcasts with a Marvel writer, it seems that Feige flies all the scripts past a select group of Marvel comic writers for a thumbs up or down. That is SO much better than DC/WB's attitude, where the comic guys are lucky if they get tickets to the premiere.
I still have not started this yet, but it's not hard to bitchslap Gotham. Gotham's biggest benefit is that it's able to be weird and campy in the way the other comic series cannot. It's like how Better Call Saul had that weird 1950's-style scamming montage, which couldn't have worked on Breaking Bad but fit perfectly on BCS.
 

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I still have not started this yet, but it's not hard to bitchslap Gotham. Gotham's biggest benefit is that it's able to be weird and campy in the way the other comic series cannot. It's like how Better Call Saul had that weird 1950's-style scamming montage, which couldn't have worked on Breaking Bad but fit perfectly on BCS.
I like Gotham and I agree. There are other shows that bitch slap Gotham. The Flash, Arrow, Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter....
 

LiddyRules

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I like Gotham and I agree. There are other shows that bitch slap Gotham. The Flash, Arrow, Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter....
The only show I might feel awkward about is Agents of SHIELD. It's "better" than Gotham, but not as fascinating to me. I put my thoughts about the latest season in the respective thread. Comment on it. Or don't.
 

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You know what? I support Kingpin. I don't like his methods, but he's absolutely cleaning up NYC in a way that will leave it clean for good. A lot messier, but DD's NYC would require constant work by DD or someone like him.

Fisk's New York is a high cost up front, low maintenance future. DD's is a low cost, constant maintenance future.

I prefer the Fisk vision. Just not the methods.
 

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You know what? I support Kingpin. I don't like his methods, but he's absolutely cleaning up NYC in a way that will leave it clean for good. A lot messier, but DD's NYC would require constant work by DD or someone like him.

Fisk's New York is a high cost up front, low maintenance future. DD's is a low cost, constant maintenance future.

I prefer the Fisk vision. Just not the methods.
Also, find it hard to believe that they couldn't throw enough cash at these people to get them to move. They are on the top tier of the drug market and they don't have ridiculous sums of money to throw at these Rent Control leaches?
 

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Also, find it hard to believe that they couldn't throw enough cash at these people to get them to move. They are on the top tier of the drug market and they don't have ridiculous sums of money to throw at these Rent Control leaches?
To a point, yeah. But there are always some assholes who won't leave a shithole for millions. They're just too emotionally tied to some piece of garbage home.
 

VMS

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What a douchebag.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oreg...ve_duin_blog_daredevil_on_n.html#incart_river

Steve Duin blog: 'Daredevil' on Netflix is vicious, vacuous

In the fourth episode of "Daredevil" - the new Marvel series on Netflix - one of the Russian renegades in Hell's Kitchen is beating the stuffing out of Rosario Dawson, who plays nurse Claire Temple.

"It gives me no pleasure," the Russian says, as he reaches for the baseball bat in the darkened taxi garage. "It really doesn't. But I have been given a job to do."

Draw blood. Splatter as much as possible. The same sterling task assigned to "creator" Drew Goddard and current "showrunner" Steven DeKnight, both of whom, like the Chechen, are having the time of their lives.

The vicious stupidity of "Daredevil" owes more to "Banshee" than to Stan Lee. In the opening four hours of the series, skulls are crushed with a bowling ball and the door of a Cadillac Escalade.

The Russian pulls rib shards from a corpse to make prison shivs. A character - terrified by the consequences of whispering the Kingpin's name - impales his foolish head on a convenient spike.

And when violence is employed to accelerate the meandering narrative, much of the brutality is casually directed at women. The sex trafficking victims dumped into the steel container on the New York City dock. The jail-house assault on Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll).

The wretchedly unnecessary scene in which a coed returns home from college to do her laundry and discovers her father has put a bullet through his head astride the washer-dryer.

Marvel, I promise you, appreciates these spoilers. The corporation spawned in the early '60s by by Stan Lee's ear for humanity and Jack Kirby's sense of the divine believes, a half century later, that this overkill provides "Daredevil" with its charisma. The brutality doesn't, DeKnight insists, warrant more than a PG-15 rating.

Goddard (who long ago jumped ship) and DeKnight will, I suppose, blame Frank Miller for the dark tone, noting that Miller took few prisoners - and shackled Page to drugs and porn - in the comic book's best storyline, "Born Again" (Daredevil #227-233). But if Miller had a similar utility with violence, he had a far better appreciation of the franchise he inherited from Lee, Bill Everett and - casting the blind man in red on his first anniversary - Wally Wood.

"Batman is like the Shadow, and Daredevil is a character a bit more like the Continental Op or Sam Spade," Miller has said. "He's a smaller character. He has to be convincing. He isn't quite such a roaring force of nature."

Four hours in to the 13-episode series - and as trial runs go, that's more than enough - little of the Netflix series is captivating or convincing. While Woll and Dawson suffer admirably in their Hell's Kitchen roles, Elden Hensen - as Foggy Nelson, Matt Murdock's law partner - is just plain insufferable. Wesley (Toby Leonard Moore), the Kingpin's squire, is a cartoon. And Charlie Cox, as the "Man Without Fear," does most of his fighting in the dark, desperately hoping the shadows obscure the clumsy, monotonous staging.

"Daredevil" is what it is, I suppose, another brick on Marvel's cinematic road to "The Defenders." When Daily Bugle investigative reporter Ben Ulrich wearily tells his editor that the ugliness in town requires an expose, the editor replies, "It doesn't sell papers, Ben. Not anymore."

Neither do smaller, exquisite characters. Brain-piercing, brain-numbing blood splatters, on the other hand, never fails to pleasure the PG-15 audience. Or so "Daredevil" on Netflix would have us believe.

-- Steve Duin
1.) Really? Violence against women? Something like 5,000 men get killed in this show, and dude focuses on two chicks getting beaten up? (Somebody refresh me: did the prison guard's daughter get r@ped by Kingpin's people, or what? I seem to recall a girl shouting "Daddy! Daddy help me!" stuff at some point with the prison guard sobbing, or did I miss some context there at 4 am?)

2.) Was Mr Pissypants bothered by all the gore? This was a fucking awesome show. Wrap your head around it. It was cool, it was stylish, and it was damned well-written. It was 13 hours of awesome, you hipster douchebag.
 
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What a douchebag.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oreg...ve_duin_blog_daredevil_on_n.html#incart_river



1.) Really? Violence against women? Something like 5,000 men get killed in this show, and dude focuses on two chicks getting beaten up? (Somebody refresh me: did the prison guard's daughter get r@ped by Kingpin's people, or what? I seem to recall a girl shouting "Daddy! Daddy help me!" stuff at some point with the prison guard sobbing, or did I miss some context there at 4 am?)

2.) Was Mr Pissypants bothered by all the gore? This was a fucking awesome show. Wrap your head around it. It was cool, it was stylish, and it was damned well-written. It was 13 hours of awesome, you hipster douchebag.
Might watch a few episode of this show tonight, but I don't see the best daredevil character, "Stick". DD's martial arts master.

Is he in the show?
 

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Might watch a few episode of this show tonight, but I don't see the best daredevil character, "Stick". DD's martial arts master.

Is he in the show?
Yes.

But not right away.
 
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Yes.

But not right away.
Episode 7 is called "stick", gonna guess thats the one.

Is he asian or white in the show? The comics have depicted him in a few different ways depending on the artist.
 

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Scott Glenn.
 

VMS

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Yeah, but nobody plays a tough old bastard better than Glenn.
 
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