Dean Urges Do-Over Voting in Fla., Mich.

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean urged Florida and Michigan party officials to come up with plans to repeat their presidential nominating contests so that their delegates can be counted.

"All they have to do is come before us with rules that fit into what they agreed to a year and a half ago, and then they'll be seated," Dean said during a round of interviews Thursday on network and cable TV news programs.

The two state parties will have to find the funds to pay for new contests without help from the national party, Dean said.

"We can't afford to do that. That's not our problem. We need our money to win the presidential race," he said.

Officials in Michigan and Florida are showing renewed interest in holding repeat presidential nominating contests so that their votes will count in the epic Democratic campaign.

The Michigan governor, top officials in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, and Florida's state party chair all are now saying they would consider holding a sort of do-over contest by June. That's a change from the previous insistence from officials in both states that the primaries they held in January should determine how their delegates are allocated.

Clinton campaign communications director Howard Wolfson said in a conference call with reporters Thursday that it's hard to envision a scenario where the Florida and Michigan delegations are not seated at the conventions.

That would send a "very unsettling signal to the people of those states," Wolfson said.

Asked whether the campaign favored a caucus over a primary if the states had a do-over, he said it would be premature to comment on any particular one at this point.

Clinton won both contests, but the results were meaningless because the elections violated national party rules.

"We believe that vote ought to count," Wolfson said.

The Democratic National Committee stripped both states of all delegates for holding the primaries too early, and all Democratic candidates—including Clinton and rival Barack Obama—agreed not to campaign in either state. Obama's name wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. (Note: Clinton did visit FL several times prior to the primary)

Florida and Michigan moved up their dates to protest the party's decision to allow Iowa and New Hampshire to go first, followed by South Carolina and Nevada, giving them a disproportionate influence on the presidential selection process.

But no one predicted the race would still be very close at this point in the year.

"The rules were set a year and a half ago," Dean said. "Florida and Michigan voted for them, then decided that they didn't need to abide by the rules. Well, when you are in a contest you do need to abide by the rules. Everybody has to play by the rules out of respect for both campaigns and the other 48 states."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8V82ODG1&show_article=1
I may actually watch the Democratic convention this year, it'll be interesting to see how all this plays out.
 

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The Democratic National Committee stripped both states of all delegates for holding the primaries too early, and all Democratic candidates—including Clinton and rival Barack Obama—agreed not to campaign in either state. Obama's name wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. (Note: Clinton did visit FL several times prior to the primary)

The states decided to hold their primaries too early despite knowing the consequences. All the candidates were aware of the sanctions and agreed to them. That should be the end of the story.

They were saying on Morning Joe this morning that the cost to hold these primaries again would be $25 million per state. If the DNC isn't going to pay for it, then where's the money coming from? The taxpayers?
 

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The states decided to hold their primaries too early despite knowing the consequences. All the candidates were aware of the sanctions and agreed to them. That should be the end of the story.
Exactly! If they do hold a "do over" I'm thinking it could really tear the party apart as it splits down racial lines and - oddly - I would be in complete support of the Obama camp. He played by the rules and now they are changing them. It's completely outrageous.

They were saying on Morning Joe this morning that the cost to hold these primaries again would be $25 million per state. If the DNC isn't going to pay for it, then where's the money coming from? The taxpayers?
I believe the local parties pay the bulk of the costs but you have to factor costs for opening the polling places and OT for the cops guarding them.
 

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That's Hitlary's team of shit stirrers working their magic.
 

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Exactly! If they do hold a "do over" I'm thinking it could really tear the party apart as it splits down racial lines and - oddly - I would be in complete support of the Obama camp. He played by the rules and now they are changing them. It's completely outrageous.



I believe the local parties pay the bulk of the costs but you have to factor costs for opening the polling places and OT for the cops guarding them.
Yea, my home state of Florida can finally be te laughingstock of the country again due to the fact that we can't figure out how to fucking vote!

The Democratic party better be funding this shit instead of using our tax dollars.
 

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Hillary's already got those chickens counted ... in her victory speech the other night, the first state she mentioned as having won was Florida & later she mentioned Michigan.