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Josh_R

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Grown men playing a children's game is serious shit. We have rules and we don't bend them for nobody. Not even to honor real men who have died in service to their country.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/...r-military-tribute-hats-during-game-to-honor/

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MLB Nixes Nationals' Plan to Wear Military Tribute Hats During Game to Honor Navy SEALs
Published August 19, 2011

Paying tribute to the nation's heroes would seem to be a perfect fit for the nation's pastime. Not so fast, says Major League Baseball.
The Washington Nationals had planned to honor the Navy SEALs who died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan by wearing special tribute hats on the field, but that plan didn't pass muster with league officials.
“We reserve hats for national tributes, where every club is wearing them on the same day,” league spokesman Pat Courtney told the Washington Post. “But we’re happy to work with clubs on alternatives.”
The league is more open to teams paying tribute through uniform patches, the Post reported, or by special attire during batting practice rather than games.
Indeed, the Nationals took batting practice Tuesday afternoon wearing ball caps of the different military branches, and Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans and their families were also treated to a pregame dinner, MyFoxDC.com reported.
Nats pitchers Ryan Mattheus and Ross Detwiler spent time with the military families.
"Sometimes being back here, you kind of forget that you're in a war," Detwiler told MyFoxDC.com. "You kind of go back to your day-to-day life and then you see something like (the helicopter shot down). It's a terrible reminder that there are people losing their lives for our freedom."
More than 6,000 U.S. servicemen and women have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The helicopter crash on Aug. 6 was the single-deadliest incident for the U.S. military in the ten-year war in Afghanistan.
Save all that patriotism shit for batting practice, we have a serious game to play. God forbid your hat is different.
 

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I kinda side with MLB. If you don't nip this shit in the bud, pretty soon you've got one team wearing pink Susan G Kuntenstein Cunt Cancer Memorial hats, and another team wearing hemp hats with Legalize Medical Marijuana! slogans. Just wear the uniform and stop with the political and memorial shit.

On the other hand... baseball really is a game for children, and any adult who takes the stupid costumes they wear too seriously should be shot.

Meh... I extremely don't care either way.
 

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Havent the Padres broke out the camo uniforms a few times a season for the last couple years? And every other team wearing numbers of retired/deceased former players? And teams wearing special patches for the inaugural seasons in new stadiums?

I can see where Bud Selig et al are coming from on this one. Don't want to cheapen the sport. :icon_roll
 

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Havent the Padres broke out the camo uniforms a few times a season for the last couple years? And every other team wearing numbers of retired/deceased former players? And teams wearing special patches for the inaugural seasons in new stadiums?

I can see where Bud Selig et al are coming from on this one. Don't want to cheapen the sport. :icon_roll
nah, sports won't get cheapened until a new expansion team is playing in masingil stadium
 

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Nothing says honor the troops like wasting a bunch of money on hats for one game.
 

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Nothing says honor the troops like wasting a bunch of money on hats for one game.
Yeah, it's not like those military fly overs that don't cost money and are not really important to the game.
 

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Yeah, it's not like those military fly overs that don't cost money and are not really important to the game.
Fly overs are usually in conjunction with training exercises, so they're at least justifiable.
 

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I kinda side with MLB. If you don't nip this shit in the bud, pretty soon you've got one team wearing pink Susan G Kuntenstein Cunt Cancer Memorial hats, and another team wearing hemp hats with Legalize Medical Marijuana! slogans. Just wear the uniform and stop with the political and memorial shit.

On the other hand... baseball really is a game for children, and any adult who takes the stupid costumes they wear too seriously should be shot.

Meh... I extremely don't care either way.
I kind have to agree with this. MLB has done a lot to honor the armed forces in the past 10 years. Now granted they do make money off the hats that all teams wear on Memorial Day and the 4th of July by selling them on their website. But a portion of the money does go to charities that help the troops.
 
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Fly overs are usually in conjunction with training exercises, so they're at least justifiable.
ARLINGTON, Texas — The ritual at a sporting event is both heart-rending and familiar: The performance of the national anthem, followed by a thunderous flyover by military aircraft.

At this year's Super Bowl, five Navy F-18s are traveling all the way from Virginia Beach, Virginia for the ceremony at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington.

The domed arena will be closed. The spectators inside will not see it. The five-second shot will be shown on TV.

The U.S. Navy says the cost to bring the formation of four planes, plus a backup, to North Texas is $109,000 in fuel. According to Department of Defense tables, the entire cost will be more than $450,000, based on the operational cost of the F-18 aircraft and the number of hours the pilots will fly.

The same kind of F-18 fighter operates out of the Joint Reserve Base in Fort Worth, less than 20 miles from the stadium.

Commander Ben Hewlett from Virginia Beach, who's leading the Super Bowl overflight, says he doesn't know why his group was selected, but he's happy to do it.
;)
 

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Havent the Padres broke out the camo uniforms a few times a season for the last couple years?
They have for years, maybe even before 9/11. There's obviously a lot of military bases down there so they always have special military days throughout the season, not just on Memorial Day.



Still not sure if I disagree with MLB on this specific situation. I would wonder if other families would think we're putting the helicopter incident above all the other sacrifices.
 

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Since when is it a sports team's job to comment on what's going on in the world? I didn't like it when the Phoenix Suns protested Arizona Senate Bill 1070 with their stupid "Los Suns" jerseys and I don't like this Navy SEAL tribute hat idea either. Let the players do it as individuals if they want to but leave the team out of it.
 

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I was out in my backyard just North of Indianapolis this summer and I heard a funny noise above me so I looked up... ZOINKS! The Klingons from Uranus are invading the Earth!

Let me tell you...a B2 stealth bomber 1000 feet above your head is a fucking shocking sight if you're not expecting it. Those freaky things look like they are absolutely not of this world when you see them in real life.

It flew a racetrack pattern that went right over my neighborhood... shit... right over my back yard about 10 passes. It was there to do a flyover of the Indianapolis 500 at the brickyard which is just south of me.

I don't know where those things are based, but I do know they are frighteningly expensive to operate. I can just imagine how much that little show cost the taxpayers.
 

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I was out in my backyard just North of Indianapolis this summer and I heard a funny noise above me so I looked up... ZOINKS! The Klingons from Uranus are invading the Earth!

Let me tell you...a B2 stealth bomber 1000 feet above your head is a fucking shocking sight if you're not expecting it. Those freaky things look like they are absolutely not of this world when you see them in real life.


That's 'cause they were reverse engineered from the alien interstellar craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico shortly after WWII - the aliens detected the atomic bomb blasts and needed to investigate whether we were advanced enough for first contact to be made ---- mannnnnnnnnnnnnn
 

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That's 'cause they were reverse engineered from the alien interstellar craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico shortly after WWII - the aliens detected the atomic bomb blasts and needed to investigate whether we were advanced enough for first contact to be made ---- mannnnnnnnnnnnnn
Dude! Exactly!

 
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I kinda side with MLB. If you don't nip this shit in the bud, pretty soon you've got one team wearing pink Susan G Kuntenstein Cunt Cancer Memorial hats, and another team wearing hemp hats with Legalize Medical Marijuana! slogans. Just wear the uniform and stop with the political and memorial shit.

On the other hand... baseball really is a game for children, and any adult who takes the stupid costumes they wear too seriously should be shot.

Meh... I extremely don't care either way.
I do find it sort of funny that MLB cares this much while the NFL has those ass holes out there in Susan G Cunt pink all over the damn place.

B-2s are based out of Kansas, btw, so not such a big deal.
 

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Wow, I never thought anyone took baseball so serious that they would actually debate the merits of the MLB cracking down on the devastating act of wearing whatever hat you want all willy-nilly. Can anyone remind me why the entire baseball league gives a fuck what hat an individual team wears? Will less people come pay hundreds of dollars for tickets and beers if the teams are not wearing their mandated hats?
 

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The MLB is a business, and the caps have the most recognizable branding on them. So that's the one part of the uniform they want left alone, or at least not replaced completely.

If you think losing something valuable is the proper way to honor dead soldiers, get your couch out to the yard, and set it on fire for the troops. Or do it in the house, be really patriotic.

Personally, I don't see how changing the caps is more patriotic than changing the uniforms. I can see how it's worse for business though.
 

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If you want to honor them, how about leaning on your congresscunts to put a stop to the constant warmongering and bring them home where they belong.
 

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The MLB is a business, and the caps have the most recognizable branding on them. So that's the one part of the uniform they want left alone, or at least not replaced completely.

If you think losing something valuable is the proper way to honor dead soldiers, get your couch out to the yard, and set it on fire for the troops. Or do it in the house, be really patriotic.

Personally, I don't see how changing the caps is more patriotic than changing the uniforms. I can see how it's worse for business though.
This makes no fucking sense. Do you really think anyone is going to say "Gee, I would love to go buy this team's merchandise, but I don't know who they are because they aren't wearing the right hats"? Changing the hats is more "patriotic" because it is far more visible (as you said earlier) than a tiny little parch on the uniform or a black band or something.
Also, how is losing something valuable (aka making a sacrifice) not patriotic? Is it more patriotic to say you support the troops when it costs you nothing to do so, or when you are willing to do it even if it costs you a little cut in hat sales? I guess I should have just talked about how much I support my country, instead of signing my (valuable) life away to the Marine Corps for 5 years.


If you want to honor them, how about leaning on your congresscunts to put a stop to the constant warmongering and bring them home where they belong.
Agreed, this would be much better than a hat.