Diamond Buying Advice for Married Folk

blazin

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So im in the market for an engagement ring, yay right?

To those that are knoweldgeable in this subject, I ask you:

If i want a carat, should i be looking at the .95 range instead of 1.0x? Im told that there's a huge markup between .99 and 1.0

for those who have bought rings, what did you look more towards, clarity or color or cut

Should I stay away from SL1 or should it depend on where the inclusion is.

Today I looked at a GIA 1.02ct SL1, I-color, Excellent cut - $5900 for the stone alone, $1850 for the setting. Thats not out of the question but Im cheap and love my money, so I obviously would love to spend less - but at the same time, I want a nice ring for my lovely girlfriend. Id really prefer to get a VS2.

Today i went to a nice Jewish fella on Jewelers Row in Philly, he sat with us for over an hour showing us numerous diamonds but Im sure I can find something cheaper. I already decided on the setting Im getting.

Any tips on getting the best deal?
 

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Here's my advice.

DON'T FUCKING DO IT
 

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Punch the first person who suggests you drop three months' salary on a ring in the face.

One month, max. And get it from one of those discount jewelers. 99.999% of people, basically anyone that's not a trained jeweler, can't tell the difference between different diamond grades.

If you want to be even more smart and responsible, buy a vintage ring from an antique store. At least the savage slave that was beaten to mine the stone will be long dead.
 

blazin

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Id never do the 3 months thing.

The thing is here Im going to have to buy a loose diamond from somewhere -

The setting that she likes is made by a company called Coast Diamond and there's only a handful of authorized sellers in my area. That's the band Im getting because Im not playing guessing games. The diamond I can shop around for.
 

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Id never do the 3 months thing.

The thing is here Im going to have to buy a loose diamond from somewhere -

The setting that she likes is made by a company called Coast Diamond and there's only a handful of authorized sellers in my area. That's the band Im getting because Im not playing guessing games. The diamond I can shop around for.
Sounds like you're on the right track then. I'm not one of those bleeding heart faggots, but I'd go out of my way to make sure that you don't get one of them blood diamonds.
 

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A friend of mine bought his fiancée a CZ (really expensive one though) and never told her. She came unglued when she went to get it appraised to file for divorce. She wore that thing like a trophy for like three years and shoved it in everyone's face. God we loved watching that meltdown of a marriage.
 

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My wife has been perfectly happy to wear a CZ for the last 15 years and the thought of wasting thousands of dollars on a stupid DeBeers scam ass scam rock makes as much sense to her as it does me... none. None sense.

She has lost about half a dozen CZ rings when she takes them off to scrub for surgery, ties them to the draw string of her scrub pants, and then forgets and tosses her scrubs in the hospital laundry. She laughs it off and then buys another CZ on QVC... PDQ ASAP.

I'd love to see the look on the lowly hospital laundry workers faces when they realized the 2 carat payday they thought was going to set them up for life was actually a CZ fugazi that would just about buy them lunch. Tee hee.
 

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May I make a suggestion? Go see Boris Sereda off of Jewelers Row. I designed my wife's ring and my wedding band and my wife loves it. I spent about 5K on the band and stone for her engagement ring. He is a very patient man and isn't a dick about anything.

I'm sorry for the blurry photo, I could never get a good shot of it and the damn wedding photographer forgot to get a picture. I don't remember the name of the stone, or setting but the diamond is 1.2k I think. I have to look at the appraisal certificate. I can't insist enough that you visit Boris.
 
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I shopped around and ended up going with a 3 stone ring, something to the effect of .9 center stone and .45 side stones. I forget the clarity, but were all between VS and VVS, so nicer range, and after shopping the local discount places I ended up getting it from a cool little mom and pop shop for right under $4k mounted and all. Looks similar to this:



She's got an office job, so no worries of losing it scrubbing into surgery or anything, she never takes it off, and for the price it looks a lot bigger than a .9 main stone.

Shop around the smaller shops, you should be able to find a Jew that does huge wholesale volume who'll give it to you for a couple hundred over cost. Stay the fuck away from any place you've ever heard of. (Zales, Kay, etc) My buddy bought a chick a ring at Kay I think and he dropped like $25k on close to a 2 karat ring, and honestly my chick likes her's better.
 

ruckstande

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Sounds like Ruckstande knows just the guy, too.
My friend spent over 7K at Robbins just for the Diamond and my wife and many others I've spoken with love my girl's better. I'll admit the clarity of my friend's stone is better but the setting IMHO cheapens the look of the ring. Plus if you look at other ring pictures like Blue Nile, print them out and come up with your own combination and get Boris to make the ring for you your girl will appreciate it much more that you took the time to actually craft the perfect ring for her. I can't tell you how many people stop my wife to comment on her ring. It's one of the best purchases I made.
 
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Yeah, your guy sounds like my guy in Dallas. His kid just joined the Navy so he pumps me for info and advice every time I go in there, it's honestly like the stereotypical old dudes at the barber shop in that place, it's awesome.

Find a design you like then go find someone who can either make something like it or already has the design. Your chick will love unique more than huge, it shows off better to her friends.
 

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The day I went and bought my wife her engagement ring, a solitaire Tiffany thing, i dunno what any of the color crap is, it is white and sparkly, I had to take my girlfriend to a different jewelry store. She had to get a masonic ring for her dad, anyway she comes out and says to me if I ever buy her an engagement ring get a square diamond. I had just dumped a months worth of cash on a round stone and still had to borrow from my brother to pay it off. I could have punched her in her stupid face. She never got a square stone, fuck her.
 

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The day I went and bought my wife her engagement ring, a solitaire Tiffany thing, i dunno what any of the color crap is, it is white and sparkly, I had to take my girlfriend to a different jewelry store. She had to get a masonic ring for her dad, anyway she comes out and says to me if I ever buy her an engagement ring get a square diamond. I had just dumped a months worth of cash on a round stone and still had to borrow from my brother to pay it off. I could have punched her in her stupid face. She never got a square stone, fuck her.
My wife new it was coming so out helped that I had asked her about diamond cuts. She want picky but didn't want a round stone.
 

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Here's my advice.

DON'T FUCKING DO IT
Single guy who hasn't been laid this decade. Wonder why

Punch the first person who suggests you drop three months' salary on a ring in the face.

One month, max. And get it from one of those discount jewelers. 99.999% of people, basically anyone that's not a trained jeweler, can't tell the difference between different diamond grades.

If you want to be even more smart and responsible, buy a vintage ring from an antique store. At least the savage slave that was beaten to mine the stone will be long dead.
Divorced guy. Wonder why.

Surprised there aren't more of these stupid responses. Let the guy live his life. Maybe he's one of the lucky ones that found the right person. If not, making those mistakes is part of life. At least he's got a chance of making something work.

And ruckstande, get your wife some hand cream. Jesus.
 

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Surprised there aren't more of these stupid responses. Let the guy live his life. Maybe he's one of the lucky ones that found the right person. If not, making those mistakes is part of life. At least he's got a chance of making something work.
How many cardigans do you own and how tight is that leash around your neck?

We don't take kindly to positive attitudes around here :action-sm
 
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Check pawnshops and eBay. Someone's loss can be your gain. Fuck all that sentimental shit.
Completely agree with this. It's hit or miss, and you really want to meet them at a jeweler who does appraisals before handing over any cash, but there's some crazy good deals out there between divorces and chicks who said no.
 

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Completely agree with this. It's hit or miss, and you really want to meet them at a jeweler who does appraisals before handing over any cash, but there's some crazy good deals out there between divorces and chicks who said no.
That's kinda how did mine. I bought my wife's ring off a friend at work for basically just the stones. The casino restaurant I worked at in Vegas had a jewelry store right next door and I used to wait on the owner all the time. I was able to design the ring I wanted by going through some catalogs and drew it up for him. He only charged me a couple hundred extra in materials and his labor was free as our wedding gift. My wife's not really into a lot of "bling," but she likes the fact that there isn't another one out there like it and that I took the time to design it myself.
 

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for those who have bought rings, what did you look more towards, clarity or color or cut

Should I stay away from SL1 or should it depend on where the inclusion is.
If you get a Brilliant, Radiant or Princess cut, then clarity is not as important and you can focus more on color. If you go with an Emerald cut, than any inclusions will stand out and you may wish to focus more on clarity vs color.

Mazel Tov :action-sm
 

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VVS Brilliant cut Solitaire H or I color between 95 and 150 points. Can't go wrong.

My wife doesn't even wear hers anymore since her RA changes the size of her knuckles on occasion. We had it made bigger, than she lost it in the yard and found it 3 months later. Now she's not taking any chances.

Hers was about 3000 bucks in 1992 if I recall correctly.
 

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I hear you can get a good price on an engagement ring at Penn Station.
 

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