Direct TV vs Dish Network

Hoagie

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I'm looking at getting satellite tv within the next day or two and I'm looking for advice. Direct TV has the NFL Sunday Ticket which is a plus but I can always go out to the bar for football games. So I don't want to make that a deciding factor. Anyone with experience that has a suggestion will be much appreciated. I'm looking for alot of the sports channels at the best price. Movie channels aren't much of a concern. Also I'm looking to hook 2 or 3 tvs up to it. Is it better to buy tuners as opposed to renting them? Is that even possible?
 

Polack

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Direct TV has XM, Dish has Sirius. Problem solved.
 

Hoagie

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I have an XM sub so I'll never even wander into the music channels.
 

Pigdango

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I believe DirecTV has many, many more HD channels, so if that's important to you, look into that. Going to bars may eventually grow old, watching every NFL game in HD will not. Ever see a guy's vertebre come apart like that?
 

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DirectTV also plays O&A on Channel 879. . . I'm listening to it right now.
 

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I'm looking at getting satellite tv within the next day or two and I'm looking for advice. Direct TV has the NFL Sunday Ticket which is a plus but I can always go out to the bar for football games. So I don't want to make that a deciding factor. Anyone with experience that has a suggestion will be much appreciated. I'm looking for alot of the sports channels at the best price. Movie channels aren't much of a concern. Also I'm looking to hook 2 or 3 tvs up to it. Is it better to buy tuners as opposed to renting them? Is that even possible?
Everything the rest of these guys say is the truth. On the other hand, it's not the entire truth.

Totally disregarding NFL Sunday Ticket, and listening to O&A through your TV, I think that Dish Network makes more sense.

DirecTV has more HD capacity, this is true. The truth is, however, that there is dick-all for HD content right now. As I understand it, DirecTV has seriously gone overboard with their capacity to carry HD programming, at least in part so they can carry their NFL Ticket games in HD (I think they do, at least).

If that matter to you, then go with DirecTV. I'm a college football fan, though, and not a huge NFL guy. DirecTV is simply more expensive, apple-to-apples comparison of their rate schedules, than Dish because the NFL Sunday Ticket cost is spread out through ALL the DirecTV customers, whether or not they get the Ticket. If you're going with DirecTV, I'm assuming you'd pick up the Ticket anyways, so that isn't a major negative. But it does affect what the costs all are.

The last time I seriously looked at this stuff was at least 1-2 years ago, though. You'll want to do your own research. But do a channel-by-channel comparison of the package(s) you're interested in, the HD channels each carries, etc.

Good luck.
 
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Channel 879 4LYFE NIGGA!

Only thing that blows is the two minute delay, so calling in... well it doesn't work.
 

Deebomber

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Get Directv with all the HD channels coming this month it's great. I sat down Sunday and watched 8 NFL games at once in HD. DIsh is the step sister in satellite. I have 6 recievers in my house with a HD/DVR with HBO and Encore and pay $95.00 a month. Only channels I don't get are SHowtime and Cinemax but they suck anyway. I get everyother channel they have.
 

Nawlinzboy

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If you are getting the HD/DVR go with Dish Network. The reviews on their newest hardware is horrible. That was my deciding factor on going with Dish over Direct.
 

izzy izkowitz

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I am leaving dish for directtv as soon as my contract is up. I had dish years ago and loved it. when we moved we went with dish based on my previous experience. dish suck major donkey balls now. I lose signal at least twice a week for no reason. if sports is your thing, DO NOT got with dish. no football, no baseball, have to get the most expensive package for soccer as well as some basic cable type channels like diy, national geographic, and stuff like that. when I signed up I specifically asked if they were going to still have the baseball package and was told yes, then 3 months into my contract they decided not to pay mlb what they wanted and I am stuck in a contract. dish does have more nonsports hd programming. they have the old voom networks which are cool. I would suggest either stay with cable or go with directtv. boo dish network, hooray beer.
 

edzeppe

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dish does have more nonsports hd programming. .


Today, yes. In two weeks no.

direcTV is adding by the end of the year...
1. A&E HD
2. ABC Family HD
3. Bravo HD
4. ESPNews HD
5. Food Network HD
6. Fuel TV HD
7. FX HD
8. HGTV-HD
9. Cartoon Network
10. Chiller HD
11. CNBC HD
12. CNN HD
13. History Channel HD
14. MHD
15. USA Network HD
16. National Geographic HD
17. Discovery Channel HD
18. Disney Channel HD
19. TBS in HD
20. Animal Planet HD
21. The 101 HD
22. TLC HD
23. Toon Disney HD
24. Weather Channel HD
25. Big Ten Network HD
26. Tennis Channel HD
27. Speed Channel HD
28. NFL Network HD
29. Versus HD/Golf Ch HD
30. Sci-Fi Network HD
31. Science Channel HD
 

Joe Avezzano

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Remember that there is a difference between having an HD channel and having a channel that shows only HD programming. Just because they say a channel is HD doesn't mean that all the shows on it are.
 

edzeppe

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Remember that there is a difference between having an HD channel and having a channel that shows only HD programming. Just because they say a channel is HD doesn't mean that all the shows on it are.
The DirecTV stations will be in addition to the SD stations that already exist... Kinda like it is now.. ESPN SD is 206, ESPN HD is 73- and everything on 73 is in HD.
 
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I've had both, and DirecTV is the way to go by far.

Dish just seemed cheap to me. Good gust of wind and the signal went to shit, while Direct I never had that problem. I didn't really like the lay out and menu options with Dish, and their DVR always seemed way sub par to the TIvo box that came with Direct. (Not sure if DTV still has a deal with Tivo, but they did when I had them)

Add to it the fact they have NFL Ticket and they're adding all the HD channels, I'm going back to DirecTV once I sell my house. It's too much of a hassle for me to install a dish system on a house that should be sold in a month or so (god willing), so I'm stuck with Time "we suck dick" Warner for the time being.
 

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I just switched to Fios TV but my DirecTV experience was great. They're a great company to deal with.
 
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Give us a little Fios review if you don't mind.

I got two friends who are both Elec. Engineers that work for in Telecom and they both got Fios as soon as it came out and they both got rid of it within a month. Their complaints were that the internet was slower than their old cable, and that the menu functions for the TV were confusing as hell, and they're probably my two smartest friends
 

Hoagie

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Well I got the Direct TV hooked up today. It's pretty cool. Now if Verizon would just get fios in my area I can dump Cumstaincast all together.
 

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You can pry my DirecTV and my DirecTiVo's from my cold, dead hands...
 

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DirecTV and DirecTiVo...
I get EVERY station for $98/mo
 

BCH

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Give us a little Fios review if you don't mind.

I got two friends who are both Elec. Engineers that work for in Telecom and they both got Fios as soon as it came out and they both got rid of it within a month. Their complaints were that the internet was slower than their old cable, and that the menu functions for the TV were confusing as hell, and they're probably my two smartest friends
Well let's clear the whole internet's slower than cable thing up first.

When your friends bought Fios, like all early adopters of the technology, there were 2 plans available 5Mb/1Mb and 15Mb/2Mb If they bought the first of these which was the $35.99 option at the time that could indeed be the case however these plans are now 10Mb/5Mb and 20Mb/5Mb respectively. I have the 20Mb/5Mb plan and trust me when I say it destroys any cable connection I've ever had occasion to use. The main difference being that maximum bandwidth is ALWAYS available to the limit of the INTERNET. The little punk across the street with 10 torrents going at once downloading porn movies doesn't affect your bandwidth at all. I get 19Mb+ any time of the day or night that I care to test it.

Now On to the TV

Fios TV is technically superior to any cable or satellite offering I have yet seen. There's more available bandwidth than cable or satellite. The picture and sound are incredible and every single channel is 100% digital as opposed to some Digital cable, like my Dad's, where channels < 100 are Analog. On Dad's cable, this includes HBO and ESPN Etc... There's a bunch of HD channels and these look beautiful without a trace of artifacts. The benefit over Satellite which is most noticable is the lack of Rain Fade, which was never much of a problem for me to begin with. The main reason I switched was I didn't want to buy new DirecTV equipment including an HD Tivo and mount/tune a new 3LNB dish.

Now let's talk Whole House DVR


This thing rules, I had 2 DVRs with DirecTV and unless I remembered to record everything I might want to watch in both places on both boxes, I was screwed. With this thing, I record everything on the one DVR and it slings the media to any other converter Via IP over Coax. It remembers where you last stopped/paused any show allowing you to resume watching from any converter where you left off. This costs 20 Bucks but is well worth it IMHO.

Now, about that guide thing...

It's true, the current incarnation of the Guide leaves a little bit to be desired compounded by the fact that my remote is designed for the New guide which is not yet out so I can't page up or down. But the new guide is coming and there's even a preview on the web which looks nice http://promo.verizon.com/img/ it seems apparent to me that they shopped this out to a company which designs UIs. The best thing about this guide is how it displays relevant search data as you type. Verizon has special search servers on the web that the STB communicates with. This IP data stream is seperate from the TV data stream. There's talk of addition of Movie Poster art and watchable trailers...

My complaints...

1 - The skip forward and back buttons on the DVR and especially the other boxes while watching recorded content are a little slower than I am used to. I'm hoping that future upgrades will help aleviate this.

2- The Main DVR box has a cooling fan in it. During very quiet portions of programming, this can be mildly annoying. I just close the door to the unit the DVR is in which I'm not certain helps the cooling problem...

Anyway, I like it so far and have no intention of pulling it out any time soon.
 
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And with that, boys and girls, I'm going Fios when my house sells instead of Direct TV. That whole house DVR thing alone is well worth it, I don't care if I have to use a laptop with a C prompt as a remote, that's just too cool
 

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Oh let me add to the list of Caveats...

You can't set up recordings from any of the remote boxes. You must set them up from the main unit. You also can't Pause/Rewind live TV on the remote boxes.

If you have NON-HD remote boxes, you can't watch recorded HD content on them.

There are obvious technical reasons for these things but it seems like they should work. The only thing I see changing is you should in the future be able to at least add a scheduled recording to the DVR's database from a remote box.
 
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Well, those are disappointing, but by no means deal breaking. It's not like there's any way to do anything close to that with what's currently out there without networking a couple of Tivos.