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School denied meet invite over nickname


The Associated Press | Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:55 am | (8) Comments
Font Size:Default font sizeLarger font size IOWA CITY — The University of Iowa has decided not to invite the University of North Dakota to an April track meet because of the school’s Fighting Sioux nickname.
The Iowa City Press-Citizen reported Monday that associate athletic director Mark Abbott says Iowa decided against the invitation when UND re-instated the name earlier this month.
Iowa policy prohibits the athletic department from scheduling competitions with schools or attending tournaments hosted by schools using Native American mascots, unless those mascots are approved by the NCAA.
Abbot says Illinois, whose Fighting Illini mascot has come under fire, is exempt from the policy because of contractual obligations within the Big Ten Conference.
Other exemptions include games that Iowa has no control over scheduling, such as bowl games, and NCAA or conference-sponsored competitions.

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I don't understand why that's a negative... I mean, are the Spartans, Legionaires, Centurions, Trojans, etc also off limits?

This all started going after things like Redskin, similarly if there was a Washington Wetbacks or something. It doesn't pertain to everything related to indians in any way.
 

Neon

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Wait, so they actually ARE playing Illinois, who have a Native American name for their team, but that's because of contractual obligations? Way to stick to your guns there, Iowa.
 

Konstantin K

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What about Hawkeyes? That's offensive to people with good eyesight! Glass houses, Iowa, glass houses.
 

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Didn't all of this start because other schools were using their mascot on Tshirts in a derogatory fashion? Wasn't that the real offense, because from everything I've understood, the Sioux are fine with the name, right? Hell if I know. All this PC shit is BS.
 

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Wait, so they actually ARE playing Illinois, who have a Native American name for their team, but that's because of contractual obligations? Way to stick to your guns there, Iowa.
That's a good point. However; I think the excuse you'd get from Iowa would be that Illinois phased out the Chief Illiniwek mascot several years ago. Sorry, quick edit here. Just looked it up on Wikipedia. Apparently Illinois "explanation" behind the fighting Illini name refers to Illinois WWI veterans...
 

Neon

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That's a good point. However; I think the excuse you'd get from Iowa would be that Illinois phased out the Chief Illiniwek mascot several years ago. Sorry, quick edit here. Just looked it up on Wikipedia. Apparently Illinois "explanation" behind the fighting Illini name refers to Illinois WWI veterans...
I guess. I just don't see why Fighting Sioux is offense. Plenty of sports teams are named for ethnic warriors like the Vikings. Many Jewish organizations name their sports team "Maccabi" for the Jewish warriors who rebelled against the Greeks. If it was "Chief Drunka Redskin" I'd totally understand, but many of these Native American names and mascots are honoring, rather than mocking, Native American heritage.
 

Hoffman

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I guess. I just don't see why Fighting Sioux is offense. Plenty of sports teams are named for ethnic warriors like the Vikings. Many Jewish organizations name their sports team "Maccabi" for the Jewish warriors who rebelled against the Greeks. If it was "Chief Drunka Redskin" I'd totally understand, but many of these Native American names and mascots are honoring, rather than mocking, Native American heritage.
The only team name I would deam offensive is the Redskins. NO reason Washington needs to keep that team around. Also, I missed this in the original piece when it talks of Iowa playing Illinois;

Abbot says Illinois, whose Fighting Illini mascot has come under fire, is exempt from the policy because of contractual obligations within the Big Ten Conference.
 

Neon

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The only team name I would deam offensive is the Redskins. NO reason Washington needs to keep that team around. Also, I missed this in the original piece when it talks of Iowa playing Illinois;
So mocking native Americans is only ok if you're contractually obligated? How about they put their foot down with the Big Ten? But I guess principles are only worth fighting for when you are the one holding all the cards.
 
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Wonder if they'd have a problem if Notre Dame wanted to play them in anything...
 

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The message this sends is clear... it is shameful and embarrassing to be a Native American, and the mere mention of any sort of Native American identifier is offensive. Nobody wants to be reminded that they're a member of an inferior, defeated people.

Which is why "Fighting Irish" is perfectly acceptable... an honor really.
 

Hoffman

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So mocking native Americans is only ok if you're contractually obligated? How about they put their foot down with the Big Ten? But I guess principles are only worth fighting for when you are the one holding all the cards.
Exactly. Like I said, aside from the Redskins, every other team I can think of is an actual Tribal name in honor of said tribe. The other infuriating part in all this is that when the NCAA came up with this "rule" Florida State was exempt from it.
 
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