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do you hate the Jeebus?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Frankie_b, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Frankie_b

    Frankie_b Talk softly and drive a big tank!

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    petition to tax the churches

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
     
  2. NuttyJim

    NuttyJim Registered User

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    If I gotta pay taxes, these other groups should have to pay taxes.
     
  3. Don the Radio Guy

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    I agree with the sentiment, but let's be honest.

    1. Online petitions are shit.

    2. A petition on whitehouse.gov is going to be soundly ignored. These people don't give a fuck what you think.
     
  4. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    Forget just churches, tax all religious institutions. While we are at it, make sure the people that donate to religious institutions have the tax exemption removed for their donations to said institutions. Get that done and watch the deficit start to disappear.
     
  5. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    Anthony's father votes a resounding NO
     
  6. crippledalbino

    crippledalbino The God of 42nd Street
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    Are you afraid to write 'Jesus' because you're still afraid you'll be punished for blasphemy?
    Like somehow when all is said and done and you're standing there in judgment about to go to hell, he'll go 'Well fuck, Negro, you just said 'Jeebus,' my bad.'

    So is it:
    A: You're trying to skirt the blasphemy rules by saying a cutesified version of the name the son of god or
    B: You're just copying stupid hipsters who are trying to skirt blasphemy rules by saying a cutesfied version of the name of the son of god?
     
  7. LastDeadMouse

    LastDeadMouse WWRBD?

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    I vote C: You're copying an old Simpsons episode.
     
  8. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    Or 3. He is Homer Simpson

    [video=youtube;PVwCYJj4THQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVwCYJj4THQ[/video]

    Edit: Dammit, LDM. I lost time googling the clip.
     
  9. CousinDave

    CousinDave Registered User

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    they absolutely should be taxed

    If they are legitimate charities then they should get that status.

    If a church owns their building, they don't have to pay property tax, but if the Salvation Army rents a building, the owner of that building has to pay property tax - this isn't right.

    The solution, all real property should be taxed, even gov't property
     
  10. Party Rooster

    Party Rooster Unleash The Beast

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    Fixed.
     
  11. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    You had me up until the last part. Im not paying taxes so that a government building can pay itself back.
     
  12. Don the Radio Guy

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    You could take every piece of gold in the Vatican and it wouldn't make a dent in the deficit/debt. Pretending we can make up new people to tax (churches, drug users) in order to excuse reckless spending is crazy talk.
     
  13. crippledalbino

    crippledalbino The God of 42nd Street
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    Point made.
    I just think that you should either have the balls to say 'Jesus Christ, Alleged Son of God sucks a dick' because there is no god and no judgment, or if there is a god and judgment, then you're not going to get out of it by saying 'But I was quoting the Simpsons.'
     
  14. CousinDave

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    I know, but the fed gov't has all kinds of property in states and local govt's that isn't taxed. The National gov't owns most of the South West
     
  15. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    Never said that it was the magic solution, just that it would be a start. I understand that spending is out of control, but this thread is about taxing churches, not spending reform.
     
  16. Party Rooster

    Party Rooster Unleash The Beast

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    Churches do a lot of charitable things. Why shouldn't people who donate to them get the same benefits as if they donated to the Make-A-Wish foundation?
     
  17. CousinDave

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    property taxes (in this country) are used to fund local gov'ts. Half of Wilkes-Barre city isn't taxed because its all schools, gov't buildings, and religious

    Like I said if they own the property they don't have to pay taxes on it, but if they rent the property the owner has to pay tax on it. I'm just saying treat all property the same
     
  18. CousinDave

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    Make-A-Wish has to pay property taxes on property that they own
     
  19. Frankie_b

    Frankie_b Talk softly and drive a big tank!

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    ....arte thou serial?

    I deny the existence of the holy spirit.

    that more what you're looking for?
     
  20. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    Because Jebus. Do people that donate to Scientology get the exemption? What happens when a church takes the charitable donations of its parishioners and builds a church the size of a shopping mall? Its got to be one or the other, unless you want to make the tax code another thousand pages long.

    Edit: Also religious institutions arent set up to be charitable, they just happen to be charitable at times. Big difference between the two.
     
  21. crippledalbino

    crippledalbino The God of 42nd Street
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    fletcher
    keeps threads on track​
    People just pussy out with the "Jeebus" nonsense, was just wondering what your gig was, that's all.
     
  22. Party Rooster

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    What does that have to do with the deductibility of donations made by individuals? Did you read what I replied to?
     
  23. CousinDave

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    Its always been my experience that any time a bunch of people have to say someone is great, then that person usually isn't great.

    I like to tell Bible Bangers (most of whom have no concept that other religions exist) that their bible, that they claim is the word of god has been translated multiple times before it was written in a language that they understand & that there have to have been mistakes made in the translation and as a result of this, all this time they've been acting against gods plan, how else can you explain all the wars, famine, disease, earthquakes, floods, tornados, hurricanes, typhons, tsunamis, economy problems, legal problems, family problems, etc... that affect them
     
  24. Don the Radio Guy

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    Charity is a major component of every major religion. Even Islam.
     
  25. CousinDave

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    of course not
     

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