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DOMA: Federal definition of marriage ruled unconstitutional by US Dist. Court judge

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Party Rooster, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. Party Rooster

    Party Rooster Unleash The Beast

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    Looks like it's headed for the SCOTUS...
     
  2. Don the Radio Guy

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    I guess Holder was too busy selling guns to drug cartels to do his job.
     
  3. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    Why don't you post that Youtube video of Obama saying he's against gay marriage again.......
     
  4. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    The equal protection issue was well represented, but the article made no mention of the Tenth Amendment issue.
     
  5. Don the Radio Guy

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    Nah, I think I'll post the part of the Constitution where it defines what the President does:

    Where do you think the term "executive" comes from? It's not the president (or the Attorney General's) job to decide which laws it can and can't enforce. That's Congress's job.

    But like I said, Holder and Obama are too busy running guns to the Mexicans and destroying the economy to do their actual jobs.
     
  6. Party Rooster

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    You forgot that little oath he swore on. "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    That's his "out" if he thinks it's unconstitutional. Plenty of precedent of others doing the same thing.

    Nice try on the deflection though...
     
  7. gleet

    gleet What's black and white and red all over?

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    He didn't say that.

     
  8. Party Rooster

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    Lol. I was almost going to post that one to see who would catch it...
     
  9. Don the Radio Guy

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    So is he apparently.

    And the Constitution has no provision for the president doing anything about unconstitutional laws. That's why it says to "faithfully" execute the laws.

    This isn't a deflection. It's pointing out that the reason this law was overturned is because the President didn't do his fucking job. This time the result isn't a bad thing, but it in itself sets a very bad precedent.
     
  10. Party Rooster

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    You really think he's the first president to not defend a law he thought was unconstitutional?
     
  11. Don the Radio Guy

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    Do you have proof he's not the first to publicly refuse to uphold a law?
     
  12. mills

    mills I'll give em a state, a state of unconsciousness

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    I know, boo. But the spics never annunciate their consonants. Ever.
     
  13. Party Rooster

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    I'm on my phone, but his comes up on a simple google search:
    http://equalitymatters.org/factcheck/201102250014

    Looks like a Media Matters type site but everything seems verifiable.

    I was going to say some Dred Scott stuff or Jackson' injun stuff... "Marshall made the law let's see him enforce it..."
     
  14. Don the Radio Guy

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    Glad to see they cite Gun Lord Holder as their source of why it's Constitutional. Yeah, you probably should have just held off on that one.

    And yes, it's run by Media Matters. Big surprise there.
     
  15. Party Rooster

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    I thought this would have trumped the Holder stuff...:action-sm

     
  16. Don the Radio Guy

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    Except the "X did it so Y can do it too" argument is bogus. You don't seem to understand that the conservative minded folks here aren't blind supporters of a party like you are.
     
  17. Party Rooster

    Party Rooster Unleash The Beast

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    Now, most of them aren't. Just you.

    And that's not what you asked.
    I showed you easily verifiable cases where he wasn't and you just had to bitch about the source, like I knew you would.
     
  18. Don the Radio Guy

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    I don't even doubt the truth of it. You should just know better than to use Media Matters.
     
  19. Your_Moms_Box

    Your_Moms_Box Free Shit / Socialism 2016

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    defelct deflect deflect.

    talking point talking point talking point

    deflect deflect deflect


    Are DTT & Kirk brothers (or the same person)
     
  20. Don the Radio Guy

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    Do you even know what the word deflect means?

    Nah, probably not.

    I've directly addressed every single issue here.
     
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    de·flect/diˈflekt/
    Verb:
    Cause (something) to change direction by interposing something; turn aside from a straight course.


    See.. right there, all three of those are deflections.

    You aren't directly addressing the issue, you are trying to deflect onto some other subject you think you have a better chance of proving your point on.
     
  22. MayrMeninoCrash

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    If by "directly addressed" you mean got your ass handed to you in an argument by OAPC AGAIN, then yeah I'd say you directly addressed everything.
     

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