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Expect more negative campaigning...Obama attacks on Bain/Romney working: Ipsos Poll

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  1. Hack Hawk Down

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    By Gabriel Debenedetti

    WASHINGTON | Tue Jul 24,
    2012 1:02am EDT


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sustained attacks
    by President Barack Obama's campaign on Republican rival Mitt Romney's business
    history and refusal to release more tax records appear to be working, a
    Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Tuesday.

    More than a third of voters who are registered to a party or as an
    independent said in the online survey that what they had heard about Romney's
    taxes and his time at Bain Capital private equity firm had given them a less
    favorable impression of the Republican candidate.

    And particularly worrying for Romney is that a large slice of independent
    voters -- whom he needs to win the November 6 election -- are also buying into
    the Obama campaign's portrayal of him as a ruthless businessman who may be
    hiding something in his taxes.

    "With three-quarters of registered voters saying they've heard at least a
    little about these issues, I would say the Obama campaign has been successful in
    raising them to the national conscience," said Ipsos pollster Julia
    Clark.

    After weeks of accusations from Obama and his allies that Romney cut U.S.
    jobs and sent them overseas while he headed Bain, 36 percent of registered
    voters said the issue had made them see Romney less favorably, compared to 18
    percent who said they were now more favorable toward the former governor of
    Massachusetts.


    Among independents, 26 percent regarded him less favorably and 13 percent
    more favorably after hearing about his business tenure.

    The Romney campaign counters that Obama is trying to distract attention from
    the poor economy with frequent ads and speeches about Bain and the Republican's
    personal finances.

    The Democrats are also calling on Romney to release more tax returns beyond
    the two years' worth of information he has given so far. An ad last week
    suggested that not being more open about his taxes meant the White House hopeful
    had something to hide.

    A RIGHT TO KNOW

    Almost half of the poll respondents said Americans have a right to know a
    presidential candidate's financial history going back many years, while a third
    said Romney doesn't need to release any more tax returns and further requests to
    do so are an invasion of his privacy.

    Among registered voters, 37 percent said what they had heard about Romney's
    taxes made them less favorable toward him, while among independents 30 percent
    agreed.

    The poll results were not all negative for Romney, though. The Republican
    holds a 5 percentage point advantage over Obama among registered voters on his
    "plan, policy or approach" to the country's economy.

    The margin was 36 to 31 percent among registered voters, but 22 to 19 in
    favor of Obama among independents.

    Americans also showed signs of displeasure about a candidate's taxes becoming
    such an important part of the national dialogue. More than half of registered
    voters -- 55 percent -- said the debate about Romney's tax returns was a waste
    of time, while 45 percent said it was an important part of the
    campaign.

    But independents, by a margin of 54 to 46, saw Romney's taxes as important in
    the fight for the White House.


    The poll of 1,195 adults, including 962 registered voters, was taken between
    Thursday and Monday.

    The precision of Reuters/Ipsos online surveys are measured using a
    credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus
    or minus 3.3 percentage points for all Americans. For registered voters it was
    plus or minus 3.7, and for independents it was plus or minus 8.7.
     
  2. Don the Radio Guy

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    Wishful thinking. The part that's right is that dishonest smears will continue from the Obama camp. They're going all out on the class warfare.
     
  3. Hack Hawk Down

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    How is it wishful thinking dude? Its a poll.

    Negative campaigning works. Its been proven all over the world in western democracy. It worked for John Howard in Australia, Jean Chretien and Stephen Harper in Canada, Ronald Reagan with his team of Lee Atwater and Ed Rollins, it certainly worked for Bush against Kerry with attack dog Karl Rove, and when McCain showed restraint he got his ass kicked.
     
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    afternoonquil Apology Ostrich

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    The leader of the libs unsheathes his cock shaped sword and grips his rainbow shield tightly. He gallantly leads the non-whites and less fortunate to the hoard of food stamps, government cheese and abortion clinic vouchers.
     
  5. Don the Radio Guy

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    I could commission a poll that shows you know what you're talking about. Sample bias. Question stacking. There are a million ways to get any result you want.

    Yes, negative campaigning works. Especially when it's true. Obama's negative ads are never true. That makes them less effective.
     
  6. Party Rooster

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    That's all Don's got when he doesn't like when someone says something bad against his boy Romney, he'll just deflect like he always does. Even though the poll had some good news about Romney in it.

    Ipsos doesn't really have a reputation as being biased like PPP does on the left or Rasmussen on the right.
     
  7. Begbie

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    Rarely do I respond to a troll's thread, but this is just too fuckin easy, I'm sorry...I cannot resist...

    So 36% of registered voters have a less favorable opinion of Romney after the attack ads. Terrific. So how many of the 36% are actually registered democrats? Honestly, I'm not shocked in the slightest to hear Democrats say they have a less favorable opinion.

    That leads us to the Independents...

    So, these attacks are "working", huh??? Really?! Nice fantasy. This means 74% of Independents are either not swayed by the Obama attack ads or come out of it with a more favorable view of Romney. And they're claiming that appears to be working for the POTUS? Really?! Is Obama trying to lose the election...because that's the only way I see it as working for Obama.

    A credibility interval of 8.7% for Independents? Jeez.

    Sure, sure...go ahead...continue with Romney/Bain attack ads...be my guest... :icon_cool
     
  8. NuttyJim

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    I'm tired of all these campaign commercials. Every 5 fucking minute on tv they pop up. Both of them are full of shit, nothing's going to change. It's basically the lesser of 2 evils at this point.

    Anyone who believes you can change DC is a sucker.

    Status Quo 2012
     
  9. Begbie

    Begbie Wackbag Generalissimo

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    Agreed, it's frustrating.

    A few weeks ago, it was the Romney ad mocking Obama's "doing fine" quote...where they repeated Obama's line about 6 times in the ad. Almost every fuckin commercial break. Now it seems to be the Obama ad with Romney singing America The Beautiful. Thought it was clever at first...but seeing it numerous times daily...blech.

    The new "Obama saved over a million jobs saving Detroit and the auto industry" is the latest hilarious ad though. Ohmigod...I couldn't believe it when I heard that.
     
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    What they're saying is that a couple of weeks ago only about 61% of independents felt that way, but since then a net of about 13% (26% unfavorable to 13% favorable) had a less than favorable view of Romney now. Which is a 2-1 margin, so it seems like they are working.
     
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    http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy
     
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    http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy
     
  13. justifyyourgarb

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    Bain? Like the Batman villain? Sounds evil.


    I know who I'M voting for.
     
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    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    The poll in the OP also had Romney ahead on the economy.

    I'm glad you agree with the poll you posted and think Obama's more honest and trustworthy than Romney though. :action-sm

     
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    Jesus Christ someone who knows how to read!
     
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    Look! Up in the sky!
    It's CAPTAIN HYPERBOLE!
     
  18. Don the Radio Guy

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    I know it pains you to hear so, but Barry is a fucking liar surrounded by bigger liars. He's bad, even for a politician, which is saying a lot.
     
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    A Politician is a LIAR? That's a shocking, gut-wrenching statement! Way to go out on a limb there, chief.
    I'm so glad you know me so well. I Didn't vote for Obama, and haven't voted in a Presidential election since Clinton.
    But you know me so well, so please, go back to waxing hyperbole about topics you know little about. It amuses me.
     
  20. Don the Radio Guy

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    Then why do you go out of your way to defend him every chance you get?
     
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    [citation needed]
    Prove it.
     
  22. Don the Radio Guy

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    Going back over your post history, it seems like you're more focused on ad hominem attacks on me than defending Obama. I guess I said something that hurt your wittwe feewings at some point.
     
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    Hey! Lookit that! You did some basic prep work. Good for you.
    You never hurt my feelings, by the way. You have a tendency to use hyperbole and blanket statements quite a bit.
     
  24. Don the Radio Guy

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    Irony, thy name is....

    Oh, never mind. All I do is call a spade a spade. Especially when it comes to these political threads.
     
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    That's racist.
     

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