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PotL Fall Movies 2013- What Will Be The Pick of the Litter?

Discussion in 'Movies & TV' started by LiddyRules, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    After @AlanSmithee made it clear that my Summer 2013 movies thread was dogshit, I decided to do another seasonal movie thread for Fall 2013 (September to December). I figure doing it with every four months would make more sense than combining December with January and February. Anyhoo..............here's what we have to look forward to as far as big (and some smaller) releases.

    SEPTEMBER
    Riddick- September 6
    The Family- September 13
    Insidious: Chapter 2- September 13
    Blue Caprice- September 13
    Battle of the Year in 3D- September 20
    Prisoners- September 20
    Rush- September 20
    Baggage Claim- September 27
    Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2- September 27
    Don Jon- September 27
    Metallica- Through The Never- September 27

    OCTOBER
    Gravity- October 4
    Runner Runner- October 4
    Parkland- October 4
    Captain Philips- October 11
    Machete Kills- October 11
    The Fifth Estate- October 11
    Carrie- October 18
    Escape Plan- October 18
    Twelve Years a Slave- October 18
    All is Lost- October 18
    The Counselor- October 25
    Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa- October 25
    Blue is the Warmest Color- October 25

    NOVEMBER
    Ender's Game- November 1
    Free Birds- November 1
    Last Vegas- November 1
    About Time- November 1
    Dallas Buyers Club- November 1
    Thor: The Dark World- November 8
    The Best Man Holiday- November 15
    The Book Thief- November 15
    The Wold of Wall Street- November 15
    Delivery Man- November 22
    The Hunger Games: Catching Fire- November 22
    Black Nativity- November 27
    Frozen- November 27
    Homefront- November 27
    Oldboy- November 27

    DECEMBER
    Out of the Furnace- December 6
    Inside Llewyn Davis- December 6
    The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug- December 13
    Tyler Perry's A Madea Christmas- December 13
    American Hustle- December 13
    Saving Mr. Banks- December 13
    Anchorman: The Legend Continues- December 20
    The Monuments Men- December 20
    Walking with Dinosaurs- December 20
    Her- December 20
    47 Ronin- December 25
    Grudge Match- December 25
    Jack Ryan- December 25
    The Secret Life of Walter Mitty- December 25

    The Zero Theorem should also be coming out in these months.

    Later, I'll go through what I'm planning and also come up with another failed list of Top 5 movies later. However, I will say Hunger Games 2 will be the biggest movie of this season.

    As for Summer (which was just May to July), my initial thoughts were

    Man of Steel
    Star Trek Into Darkness
    Iron Man 3
    Lone Ranger
    The Hangover Part III

    The Top 10 movies of the summer were...

    Iron Man 3 ($408)
    Desp. Me 2 ($355)
    Man of Steel ($290)
    Monsters University ($264)
    Fast and Furious 6 ($238)
    Star Trek Into Darkness ($228)
    World War Z ($200)
    The Heat ($157)
    The Great Gatsby ($144)
    The Conjuring ($134)

    The Hangover III was #14 with $112 million and was just beaten by We're The Millers this week.
     
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  2. whiskeyguy

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    These are the only movies whose plot I know about (if the ones in italics are correct). The ones in bold I'll see fairly soon after release, for various reasons.

    The big three out of this list will probably be The Hunger Games, The Hobbit, and Anchorman... most likely in that order. I'm saying this based largely on title alone. I have no idea how Thor movies do, I just remember disliking the last one.

    Insidious: Chapter 2- September 13
    Gravity- October 4
    Carrie- October 18 - Stephen King's Carrie?
    The Counselor- October 25
    Ender's Game- November 1
    Thor: The Dark World- November 8
    The Hunger Games: Catching Fire- November 22
    Oldboy- November 27
    The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug- December 13
    Anchorman: The Legend Continues- December 20

    Jack Ryan- December 25 - Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan?


    The Zero Theorem should also be coming out in these months.
     
  3. Bill Lehecka

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    I'm really looking forward to The Wold of Wall Street... I wonder what it's about? @LiddyRules
     
  4. TomC

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    more like "pick of the litterBOX" or sumtin.


    I know, FAIL
     
  5. Pigdango

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    September is the worst month of the year for movies, so all of that can be sort of excluded from the discussion.

    So I'll just go and grab movies that I think will do ok, and then I'll put them in order:

    Gravity
    Runner Runner
    Carrie
    Escape Plan
    The Counselor
    Bad Grandpa
    Ender's Game
    Last Vegas
    Free Birds
    Thor 2
    Wolf of Wall Street
    Delivery Man
    Hunger Games 2
    Frozen
    Homefront
    Hobbit 2
    Madea Christmas
    Anchorman 2
    Oceans 14
    Walking With Dinosaurs
    Walter Mitty
    Grudge Match
    Jack Ryan

    The top 3 is pretty easy:
    Hobbit 2 - $350 - $375million
    Hunger Games 2 - $325-$350 million
    Thor 2 - $225 - $250 million

    After that...I'll have to do some digging. There's no clear #4 there. I guess Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 could actually be the #4 movie. But I think one of the other animated movies will do better. I just don't know anything about them yet.
     
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  6. LiddyRules

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    Fucking your mother.
     
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    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    Stuff I know I'll see:


    The only September movie I might see is Blue Caprice, though there are some holdovers I've been wanting to see from August. I saw the trailer for Don Jon and all I could think of was how incredibly powerful Shame was.

    October- Gravity, Twelve Years a Slave. Maybes for The Fifth Estate and All is Lost. Less definite maybes for Blue is the Warmest Color and The Counselor.

    November- Definites- Thor, Wolf of Warcraft. Maybes- Ender's Game, Dallas Buyer's Club, Old Boy. Delivery Man stars Vince Vaughn and reminds me why I hate Vince Vaughn.

    December- Llewyn Davis, Hobbit, American Hustle, Anchorman 2, Her. Maybes- Saving Mr. Banks, Monuments Men, Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

    Zero Theorem is another definite.

    Now I want the movie to begin with them stealing a time machine.
     
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    Bill's mom - oddly hot?
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  9. TomC

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    top 3 is a given, but I would say Ender has the next best shot at #4, billed "young Adult" and a couple named stars for adults, and space movie for the those of us that love Sci-fi, I'm NOT happy with the things I've seen and read about, but thats just from a book nerd.
     
  10. AlanSmithee

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    Im sorry Liddy... shoulda used the ole search function.

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  11. LiddyRules

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    @Pigdango

    How come The Hobbit 2 gains $50 to $75 million while Hunger Games 2 loses $50 to $75 million? I'm not being a dick, I'm just curious behind your logic. Though I do agree with your top 3 overall except I'd reverse HG2 with H2.

    I'm curious about Jack Ryan though since that seems to be the only movie without any footage/trailers out.

    Here's the trailer for Delivery Man



    I hate Vince Vaughn so very, very much. Can't SHIELD and the Guardians of the Galaxy destroy him? (I also can't wait for December when we do Fred Claus again. I can't hear Beast of Burden without laughing.)

    EDIT: Something else I realized is that last year's big Christmas movies were adult dramas Les Miz and Django Unchained while this year none of them are.
     
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    A couple different reasons:

    Look at the trajectory of the Harry Potter movies. 2, 3, and 4 are the lowest grossing. So my guess without knowing anything about the books is that 2 and 3 will be lower grossing than 1 and 4. Twilight has the opposite trajectory because of the Team Edward/Team Jacob thing. I'm not sure if there is a similar Team Peta/Team Loki thing going on, but if there is I've never heard of it. (I think I've used that joke before, so I apologize)

    More competition. Hunger Games came out in March and was number one for four straight weeks. HG2 comes out 2 weeks after Thor 2 and 2 weeks before Hobbit 2.

    As for the Hobbit gaining money, each Lord of the Rings movie made $30 million more than the previous one. And the first Hobbit was really just a retread of Fellowship. This one holds the promise of something significantly different - the Dragon. Plus I don't know that the competition is quite as stiff this time around. I may be wrong about that. Like I said I don't know a lot about these movies yet.
     
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    Saving Mr. Banks was actually a fantastic script. But I'm kind of gay for the history of Disney and the parks. I'm at Disney studios once a week and I still geek out over it more than any of the other studios.
     
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    I'm pumped for the "Wolf of Wall Street." I read the book when it came out and I'm curious to see what Terrance Winter did with the script.
     
  15. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    I read the Neal Gabler biography of Walt Disney a couple months back and found it very interesting, particularly with how hands-on he seemed to be with each new evolution of his legacy. I also liked using YouTube as a companion to watch some of the really early animated shorts.
     
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    I've stopped reading about Walt, as much as I admire him in many ways, I just get too mad about how Ub Iwerks was screwed over by him.
     
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    Gravity looks like it is going to bust out for over $125 million and be an early Oscar contender to boot. It's at a 96% on RT and looks fucking fantastic.
     
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    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    I still say that The Hunger Games will do better than The Hobbit. I also wonder if Jack Ryan is going to be pushed forward because I think that's the only major 2013 movie we've gotten nothing from thus far.
     
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    Of all these, the only one I plan on seeing is The Hobbit. At this point, I'm four movies into a six movie series and am bordering on indifference.
     
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    You could be right. Boxoffice.com is also predicting a dropoff for Hunger Games 2, but not as steep as I am. They're projecting $390 million. I think they're basing that only on the shift from March to November, while I'm adding in my opinion of the movie itself. I just think the Dragon adds an element to Lord of the Rings that hasn't been seen, while HG2 looks like a lot more of the same. That was the problem with Harry Potter 2 and 3 - the story structure was too similar to the first one. It wasn't until they started to step out of the school routine that things turned around box office-wise.

    Thor 2 looks fucking great. I'm really surprised. I didn't even see the first one in the theater because I figured it would suck, but they pulled it off and now it looks like they're really going for it with this one.

    You may be onto something with Jack Ryan. Or did you already know this?

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/paramount-could-shift-wolf-wall-635624

    I noticed in that article that it's not even based on one of Clancy's novels - It's an original story. Why? Why would you do that?
     
  22. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    I think Hunger Games has a pretty big fanbase that's not really connected to with other movies. Obviously you can't rely on teen girls, but I don't think you can discount them either.

    And I don't think the dragon is as big a selling point as you're making it out to be. Now, we get dragons weekly. And they come with a ridiculously hot chick with tits.

    I did not know that. But if you're idea for moving your big Christmas Day release is to send it to January 17? Ouch. And still, we got nothing. Not even a poster.
     
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    I assume you're not getting anything because they don't want to put a bunch of shit out with "Christmas" and then have to change it all. And MLK weekend is a pretty good weekend. I don't think moving a movie like Jack Ryan to that date really hurts it's box office. Some pretty decent sized action movies have done well in January. Green Hornet and Book of Eli both made almost $100 million. I don't know what they were expecting out of Jack Ryan the 3rd, but I have to think they'd be happy with that. Yeah, they're all in the $85 - $125 million range.
     
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    Jack Ryan IV (Baldwin, Ford, Affleck). But even a teaser poster saying "Coming Soon" would have been useful.
     
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    I always forget about Hunt for Red October. I guess because they really pitched that as a Sean Connery movie.

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