FDA to ban flavored e-cigs to help curb 'epidemic' - And Menthols LAWDY LAWDY!!

HandPanzer

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#76
Smoking indoors should be illegal unless it's PCP.
 

Creasy Bear

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#77
Then dont be friends with, be near, or around smokers. Why do you give a fuck i smoke? We'll probably never meet so youll never smell me. I enjoy smoking. I honestly could careless if it gives me cancer. We all die. I already plan on punching my own ticket at the first sign if decline and i carry a living will says if im unable to breath on my own unplug me and a dnr and god forbid i ended up line bonas grandpa my friends know to smoother me because its what i want.
I don't care if you smoke. Seriously. I would consider it a personal favor to me if you would kindly smoke twice the amount of cigarettes you smoke now. Smoke them until your lungs get fed up with your idiocy. That would be awesome.

Obey the smoking laws ,and keep that gross shit away from polite society, and we are totally cool. You do you.
 

tattered

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#81
Nothing says "White Trash" like a Mason jar, red Solo cup, or a beer can filled with soggy ciggie butts.

I'm picturing tattered getting hit from behind by a semi truck and soggy stinky ciggie butts splashing out of his tall boy tray and splattering all over his car and him.

Funny.
I empty it everyday.....at most theres 5 soggy butts in it at a time
 
#82
I had to help clean out a dead friends basement apartment after he snuffed it... besides all the Asian porn there were several 2L bottle filled with wet ciggy butts. Even as a smoker (at the time) that skeeved me out.
 

whiskeyguy

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#83
After that post you should have enough strawmen to roll up a whole pack of cancer causing, shit stinking ciggies. We ask that you please don’t throw the butts on the ground.
It's not a strawman argument, I've been discussing our country's obsession with banning things we personally dislike this whole time. The cigarette aspect is secondary to my point.

No, smoking indoors has to be banned because there are far too many assholes in the world who would smoke indoors, because they're gross, and they're assholes. The fact that you wouldn't do it is perfectly irrelevant. There are plenty of asshole who would. I lived in that world. Fuck that.

If those laws need to be enforced with a rifle butt to a ciggie-smoking asshole's teeth, so fucking be it. That cigarette stink shit it that fucking bad.
Smoking indoors doesn't need to be banned today. 95% of businesses would ban it themselves.
 

Creasy Bear

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#84
It's not a strawman argument, I've been discussing our country's obsession with banning things we personally dislike this whole time. The cigarette aspect is secondary to my point.



Smoking indoors doesn't need to be banned today. 95% of businesses would ban it themselves.
But it took public smoking bans to get us where we are today.

Cigarette smoke is fucking horrendous. You’re a smoker, and even you can’t stand to be confined with your own toxic cigarette filth.

That’s why public smoking bans were, and are, necessary, because cigarette smoke is every bit as disgusting as you know it is.
 

whiskeyguy

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#85
But it took public smoking bans to get us where we are today.

Cigarette smoke is fucking horrendous. You’re a smoker, and even you can’t stand to be confined with your own toxic cigarette filth.

That’s why public smoking bans were, and are, necessary, because cigarette smoke is every bit as disgusting as you know it is.
And dogshit on sidewalks/lawns is disgusting, so let's ban dogs in public. Or are we just going after the things you dislike?

We're a country of American Idol legislation. Oh I like this thing or not that thing, so let's allow/ban those. Then we get outraged when someone does the same thing back to us.
 

whiskeyguy

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#86
But it took public smoking bans to get us where we are today.

Cigarette smoke is fucking horrendous. You’re a smoker, and even you can’t stand to be confined with your own toxic cigarette filth.

That’s why public smoking bans were, and are, necessary, because cigarette smoke is every bit as disgusting as you know it is.
And it didn't take smoking bans to get us here today... businesses would have catered to the demand of changing societal norms. Do you think Target would let you smoke indoors if it were legal?
 

HandPanzer

Shantih Shantih Shantih
#87
We'll never get the "Ban All Dogs" bill passed with those damn corgi lawyers always at the ready with their injunctions and legal maneuvering.
 

Creasy Bear

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#88
And it didn't take smoking bans to get us here today... businesses would have catered to the demand of changing societal norms. Do you think Target would let you smoke indoors if it were legal?
Bullshit. Businesses fought the smoking bans tooth and nail when they were first proposed.

It was the demonization of garbage shit cigarettes that was driven by things like public smoking bans that got us where we are today... that's what shifted the societal norms. It was only after those shifts had occurred that businesses decided it made economic sense to comply with the law and "cater to it".

I was just over in France, and they're at the same stage America was in the late 70s with the cigarette shit. It's a fucking horror show with the cigarettes, and the civilized humans are getting fed the fuck up with it. It's going to take bans, and not businesses catering to demands , that are going to have to change that shit.

Because garbage people are garbage.
 
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Creasy Bear

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#89
And dogshit on sidewalks/lawns is disgusting, so let's ban dogs in public. Or are we just going after the things you dislike?

We're a country of American Idol legislation. Oh I like this thing or not that thing, so let's allow/ban those. Then we get outraged when someone does the same thing back to us.
You're making apples and orange comparisons, and you're stretching the "slippery slope" argument to ridiculous extremes.


Public smoking compared to dog poop on a lawn is fucking dumb, and taking the slippery slope argument to its extremes would have us conclude that @Lord Zero's lawless anarchy world is nothing but a pure paradise.
 

whiskeyguy

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#90
Your making apples and orange comparisons, and you're stretching the "slippery slope" argument to ridiculous extremes.
Public smoking compared to dog poop on a lawn is fucking dumb, and taking the slippery slope argument to its extremes would have us conclude that @Lord Zero's lawless anarchy world is nothing but a pure paradise.
Is it taking it to an extreme though? Dog bans are already here. They're being banned on beaches, in parks, etc. Hell, even HOAs are starting to ban them.

That's my point. As a society are we better off accepting certain annoyances in public, or banning everything until everyone is comfortable?
 

Creasy Bear

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#91
Is it taking it to an extreme though? Dog bans are already here. They're being banned on beaches, in parks, etc. Hell, even HOAs are starting to ban them.

That's my point. As a society are we better off accepting certain annoyances in public, or banning everything until everyone is comfortable?
I agree that some "nuisance laws" can go to far, but public smoking bans isn't one of them, because smoking is so extremely awful. Even you understand how bad it is. You're a smoker, and even you're grossed out by your own filth.

Smoking bans aren't extreme, because smoking is so extremely gross and awful. On this we can all agree.
 

HandPanzer

Shantih Shantih Shantih
#92
Is it taking it to an extreme though? Dog bans are already here. They're being banned on beaches, in parks, etc. Hell, even HOAs are starting to ban them.

That's my point. As a society are we better off accepting certain annoyances in public, or banning everything until everyone is comfortable?
Pit bulls are illegal in Miami-Dade.
 

whiskeyguy

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#93
I agree that some "nuisance laws" can go to far, but public smoking bans isn't one of them, because smoking is so extremely awful. Even you understand how bad it is. You're a smoker, and even you're grossed out by your own filth.
And even I wouldn't go into businesses that allowed smoking indoors. As a smoker. So businesses would cater to the majority of Americans who feel the same way, and ban smoking. Hell, a few businesses actually changed their bathroom policies before liberal states legislated against gender-specific bathrooms. There's no way 90% of businesses would allow smoking today had the ban never gone into effect.

The holdouts would be some bars obviously, but that's fine. If people want to to go a smokey bar, they should be allowed to. And those of us who don't can avoid those bars.
 

Creasy Bear

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#94
And even I wouldn't go into businesses that allowed smoking indoors. As a smoker. So businesses would cater to the majority of Americans who feel the same way, and ban smoking. Hell, a few businesses actually changed their bathroom policies before liberal states legislated against gender-specific bathrooms. There's no way 90% of businesses would allow smoking today had the ban never gone into effect.

The holdouts would be some bars obviously, but that's fine. If people want to to go a smokey bar, they should be allowed to. And those of us who don't can avoid those bars.
There are "grandfathered" smoking bars in my town that were around before the bans, so they still allow smoking. They are wretched hives of scum and villainy patronized by the stinky dregs of society.

It's a moot point about the smoking bans, because things aren't going to go back to that shit anytime soon even if the bans were overturned.

Too many people have enjoyed the fresh air, and going back to that cigarette-slathered shit world is something the vast majority of civilized humans have no desire to do.

Sometimes you have to pull people kicking and screaming out of the swamp and scrub the filth off them before they'll appreciate the benefits of living outside of the swamp.

Then there are people like you, who should be forced to live in filthy cigarette swamps, because you want to wallow in your cigarette filth, while at the same time enjoying the filth-free world that cigarette bans have built, all while talking shit about cigarette bans.

You want your own smog air, and you want our fresh air too.

You don't like the world cigarette bans have built? Fine, go back to your smog swap, and stay there.
 
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whiskeyguy

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#95
There are "grandfathered" smoking bars in my town that were around before the bans, so they still allow smoking. They are wretched hives of scum and villainy patronized by the stinky dregs of society.

It's a moot point about the smoking bans, because things aren't going to go back to that shit anytime soon even if the bans were overturned.

Too many people have enjoyed the fresh air, and going back to that cigarette-slathered shit world is something the vast majority of civilized humans have no desire to do.

Sometimes you have to pull people kicking and screaming out of the swamp and scrub the filth off them before they'll appreciate the benefits of living outside of the swamp.

Then there are people like you, who should be forced to live in filthy cigarette swamps, because you want to wallow in your cigarette filth, while at the same time enjoying the filth-free world that cigarette bans have built, all while talking shit about cigarette bans.

You want your own smog air, and you want our fresh air too.

You don't like the world cigarette bans have built? Fine, go back to your smog swap, and stay there.
No, I want a world with the freedom to choose.

I've all but quit smoking, but my opinion won't change if/when I do quit... because it sets a precedent. Sure, "civilized" people don't want to live in a world with smoking... or crude language, or pets running around all over the place, or houses painted with colors outside of the approved 3 shades of tan, or loud car engines, etc etc etc.

The biggest annoyance for me is children in public. Since we're banning things we hate, that's mine. I could also probably get a couple million people behind that movement.
 

Creasy Bear

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#96
No, I want a world with the freedom to choose.

I've all but quit smoking, but my opinion won't change if/when I do quit... because it sets a precedent. Sure, "civilized" people don't want to live in a world with smoking... or crude language, or pets running around all over the place, or houses painted with colors outside of the approved 3 shades of tan, or loud car engines, etc etc etc.

The biggest annoyance for me is children in public. Since we're banning things we hate, that's mine. I could also probably get a couple million people behind that movement.
Good luck with that campaign, Marlboro Man.
 

THE FEZ MAN

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#97
But it took public smoking bans to get us where we are today.

Cigarette smoke is fucking horrendous. You’re a smoker, and even you can’t stand to be confined with your own toxic cigarette filth.

That’s why public smoking bans were, and are, necessary, because cigarette smoke is every bit as disgusting as you know it is.
Nanny state
 

tattered

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#98
Bullshit. Businesses fought the smoking bans tooth and nail when they were first proposed.

It was the demonization of garbage shit cigarettes that was driven by things like public smoking bans that got us where we are today... that's what shifted the societal norms. It was only after those shifts had occurred that businesses decided it made economic sense to comply with the law and "cater to it".

I was just over in France, and they're at the same stage America was in the late 70s with the cigarette shit. It's a fucking horror show with the cigarettes, and the civilized humans are getting fed the fuck up with it. It's going to take bans, and not businesses catering to demands , that are going to have to change that shit.

Because garbage people are garbage.
No dickface BARS fought the ban not businesses in general. And the bars were right too they lost a lot of business in the immediate aftermath of the ban. Resturants already had non smoking dominating their floorspace. Smoking sections kept getting smaller.
 

tattered

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#99
Smoking bans aren't extreme.... On this we can all agree.
No we cant and yes they are. Business owners should decide who they wish to cater to. If you dont want to deal with a smoker then dont go there. Oh but you wanna be able to go drinking with no icky ciggies around but damn near every bar fly is a smoker. No lets piss off the loyal customer who goes everyday for some fag that demands the business cater to him and his once every 3 months business
 

THE FEZ MAN

as a matter of fact i dont have 5$
No dickface BARS fought the ban not businesses in general. And the bars were right too they lost a lot of business in the immediate aftermath of the ban. Resturants already had non smoking dominating their floorspace. Smoking sections kept getting smaller.
I also think it’s funny how the only “completely smoke free casino” to open in Atlantic City went belly up almost immediately and dumped the “smoke free” policy within months
 
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