First New Reactors in 30 Years

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Now let's see if Barry sticks to his green energy statements which included nuclear:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/09/us-usa-nuclear-license-idUSTRE8181T420120209

(Reuters) - Regulators on Thursday approved plans to build the first new nuclear power plant in more than 30 years in spite of objections of the panel's chairman who cited safety concerns stemming from Japan's disastrous 2011 Fukushima disaster.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission voted 4-1 to allow Atlanta-based Southern Co to build and operate two new nuclear power reactors at its existing Vogtle nuclear power plant in Georgia. The units will cost Southern and partners about $14 billion and enter service as soon as 2016 and 2017.

NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko cast an extraordinary dissenting vote, citing the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in March 2011 that spurred the NRC to review whether existing and new U.S. reactors could withstand natural disasters like earthquakes and floods.

"I cannot support issuing this license as if Fukushima never happened." Jaczko said. "I believe it requires some type of binding commitment that the Fukushima enhancements that are currently projected and currently planned to be made would be made before the operation of the facility."

The Obama administration has offered Southern and its partners $8.3 billion in federal loan guarantees as an incentive.

The new plant will use AP1000 reactors built by Westinghouse Electric, a standardized design approved by the NRC in December that will be the foundation for several other proposed nuclear plants. Westinghouse is majority owned by Japanese multinational Toshiba Corp.

SLOW NUCLEAR "RENAISSANCE"

There have been no nuclear power plants in the United States since the partial meltdown of the reactor core of the Three Mile Island plant in Pennsylvania in 1979, which caused construction costs for nuclear plants to skyrocket and stopped dozens of planned plants in their tracks.

Southern's Vogtle project is the first in a queue of permits filed by U.S. utilities, like Scana Corp, that were once predicted to usher in a "renaissance" of nuclear power. Nuclear power accounts for about 20 percent of U.S. electric generation.

Interest in building new nuclear plants had risen about a decade ago when natural gas prices were soaring and experts thought the U.S. Congress would place first-ever limits on emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

But the case for widespread U.S. nuclear plant construction has eroded due to abundant natural gas supplies, slow electricity demand in a weak U.S. economy, lack of financing and uncertainty following the Fukushima disaster.

New nuclear plants are "more questionable because there are economic factors right now which favor gas-fueled power plants and the fact that the economy is only growing slowly means that nationally the need for new generation is lower than people were expecting in 2007," said Michael Golay, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

A 1,000-megawatt natural gas plant takes a few years to permit and build and costs up to $1 billion for the most efficient, combined-cycle model. A similar-sized nuclear reactor however could take five to 10 years to develop and build and cost in excess of $5 billion.

Industry experts say building interest is centered in Southeast states like Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, Alabama and Florida, where land is plentiful and a population shift from northern states has boosted electricity demand.

(Additional reporting By Eileen O'Grady in Houston and Scott DiSavino in New York, writing by Chris Baltimore; Editing by Marguerita Choy)
 

Hoffman

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I'm sure Kirk will find this thread quickly enough and tell us how this is a huge...monumental mistake and that we should stick with the safe, and clean coal power technology...
 
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Buster's head would explode. No seriously, I'm not joking. Mushroom cloud and all.
 

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Now let's see if Barry sticks to his green energy statements which included nuclear:
This has been in the works for awhile. Some libtard started a thread about it here awhile ago...:icon_cool
http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php/119615-Obama-54-Billion-for-Nuclear-Power?

Buster's head would explode. No seriously, I'm not joking. Mushroom cloud and all.
Is that where your avatar's from? I always thought it was a Bikini Atoll shot...
 

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Regulators on Thursday approved plans to build the first new nuclear power plant in more than 30 years in spite of objections of the panel's chairman who cited safety concerns stemming from Japan's disastrous 2011 Fukushima disaster.
Another ignorant asshole that doesn't realize how impossible that shit is with a modern reactor.
 

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Another ignorant asshole that doesn't realize how impossible that shit is with a modern reactor.
Yeah, how can you cite a disaster at an aging nuclear plant as evidence that we shouldn't build a modern state of the art plant?
 
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I wasn't giving you shit for that. The WB search function sucks. I just wanted the excuse to call Begbie a libtard. :icon_cool
My favorite part of that thread was Don thinking NeonTaster was giving him shit. Those religious nuts always blame the Jews...
 

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My favorite part of that thread was Don thinking NeonTaster was giving him shit. Those religious nuts always blame the Jews...
My favorite part was when he took offense to a generic comment like that and told me to fuck off. Like my grandma always says, "if the shoe fits, smell it!"
 

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I'm sure Kirk will find this thread quickly enough and tell us how this is a huge...monumental mistake and that we should stick with the safe, and clean coal power technology...
Water vapor that coal plants put out is safer than taking the chance of a meltdown. If they don't upgrade the power grid and the solar flares take out the transformers we could have a bunch of fukushimas on our hand. China builds something like 2 new coal plants every week and we shut down coal plants. I know Anne Coulter says radiation from fukushima is good for the Japanese and you probably believe her.
 

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Water vapor that coal plants put out is safer than taking the chance of a meltdown. If they don't upgrade the power grid and the solar flares take out the transformers we could have a bunch of fukushimas on our hand.
That's not possible in modern reactors, but thanks for playing.
 

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That's not possible in modern reactors, but thanks for playing.
Are they all modern? And don't you still have to store the old rods and keep them cooled by pumping in water and if the power shuts off all the water vaporizes and its bad times.
 

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Water vapor that coal plants put out is safer than taking the chance of a meltdown. If they don't upgrade the power grid and the solar flares take out the transformers we could have a bunch of fukushimas on our hand. China builds something like 2 new coal plants every week and we shut down coal plants. I know Anne Coulter says radiation from fukushima is good for the Japanese and you probably believe her.
I believe we've adequately explained to you in the past just HOW much safer and cleaner nuclear is over coal...but I'll leave this one for Buster to handle.
 
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Water vapor that coal plants put out is safer than taking the chance of a meltdown. If they don't upgrade the power grid and the solar flares take out the transformers we could have a bunch of fukushimas on our hand. China builds something like 2 new coal plants every week and we shut down coal plants. I know Anne Coulter says radiation from fukushima is good for the Japanese and you probably believe her.
Are they all modern? And don't you still have to store the old rods and keep them cooled by pumping in water and if the power shuts off all the water vaporizes and its bad times.
Everything you've just said was wrong, and much like you wouldn't explain complex ideas to a toddler, I'm simply going to say, "NO!".
 

BIV

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And don't you still have to store the old rods and keep them cooled by pumping in water and if the power shuts off all the water vaporizes and its bad times.
In a word, no.