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FU Stupid Volunteer EMS and Fire people.

Discussion in 'What the F??!?' started by Hudson, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. Hudson

    Hudson Supreme Champion!!!!!
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    OK, first let me qualify..I am a volunteer EMT and Firefighter myself. I work for a paid ambulance as well.
    Last night there was an MVA at a lakeside community. Police arrive on scene and reports wires down, appears driver has fled the scene. Fire capt. shows up and decides to radio a call for a full box MVA with possible aquatic rescue, but no patient. (All Fire/Vehicle rescue/BLS/ALS/Water Rescue/ Helicopter on standby) Police report that the person living in the house across the street stated they heard the crash and went to see what happened. Homeowner stated they saw another car stop at crash site, open the rear left passenger door, and then speed off. Local police reported that they had a DUI stop about 5 miles away..with the apparent owner of the vehicle in the accident in the back seat of the stopped car... Ok, fire captain on scene decided a full search of the area including waterfront was in order. 40 minutes goes by and the omidon still has nary a patient. Finally, they release us from the scene..because apparently there was no patient. (DUMMY! the local police already had him in custody..this isn't Mary Jo Kopeckne!)
     
  2. Fustercluck

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    So somebody wasted 40 minutes of your time at work? Oh the humanity.:action-sm
     
  3. Hudson

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    No, somebody wasted resources. Would you take an entire fire company out of service for a wild goose chase that lasted 2 hours Cost: 7,500 ? A water rescue team that costs 1000 to roll, more to put in the water? A Helicopter evac that costs 16,000 to put on the tarmac, more fly, more to transport? A paramedic truck that costs 6000 once on scene, more once there is a patient and drugs are administered?? For a patient THAT WAS NOT THERE????
    Guess who pays??? YOU DO! Volunteer and paid companies get $$$$ from your insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, and taxes.
     
  4. Ballbuster1

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    Yup. That kind of shit racks up big expenses that we all end up paying for.
     
  5. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**
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    Thankfully, most aren't that stupid.
     
  6. Hudson

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    I agree. But there are some that see it as "Helping the company" When they are really marking us as assholes. Let alone the loss of proper response and resources to a real emergency they were first due to because they were too busy chasing a phantom. Would you want to live with the knowledge that someone died because you were sitting on scene of a non call, looking for someone who wasn't there? Would you try to explain that to the family?
     
  7. d0uche_n0zzle

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    Blanket party?

    Is there any way to cure an asshole?
     
  8. Hudson

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    I am sure you could find it on google. Look under Jerky recipes.
     
  9. Fustercluck

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    That's the American Way. If we are efficient then the communist win
     
  10. poppAwoody

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    volunteer fire people are typically the leaders of the short bus. I'd consider them not too accomplished in "real" life to need to lead the jolly volly world. Anyhow, typically the more smarts you have the less recognized you are in those places. They should be abolished and a paid system put in. I'm tired of seeing tax payer funded moster SUV's driving these lazy fucks to work in the city from long island.
     
  11. MetalBender

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    How does a volunteer department get to access these funds? Here there is no insurance, Medicare or Medicaid that pays anything to volunteer services only taxes and donations. If you have information on how to get these other sources of funding please share because volunteer services is all we have for fire departments.
     
  12. NoSurviivors

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    Welcome to the redundant department of redundancy department. You know it was a CYA.. especially with the Zimm bullshit. I understand why your pissed.

    The fact that pd cat keep their comm straight is an issue.
     
  13. Hudson

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    Wish I knew, it was something new to me about 3 years ago. It is my understanding it is a deregulation in the laws. Some volunteer fire departments sell "memberships" for about 600- 1200 depending on the company. Basically it is a "you don't pay if you have a fire" insurance. I think the practice is sketchy if you ask me. Lemme see if I can get more info for you.
     
  14. steve500

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    Holy hell, $16,000 for a helicopter?? That's about what it costs to fly a 737 from SFO to JFK
     
  15. Hudson

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    No, it was an asshole of a fire officer..PD can't override, just get aggravated at said person. The officer on scene was a statie and was considerably pissed...to the point of wanting to cite asshat for misusing resources. He did cite him because dummy parked his truck 90 degrees across the street approx 10 feet from the accident where the "live wires" were down.
     
  16. Hudson

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    35,000 for a ride to a hospital. Within 50-100 miles
     
  17. mills

    mills I'll give em a state, a state of unconsciousness

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    I live 1.5 blocks from a hospital. Everytime I hear a helicopter fly over me I wonder what 95 year old exurban rich cunt is getting some special treatment and have video game fantasies about rocket propelled grenades.
     
  18. Hudson

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    Being able to pay is not a factor. Most of the time it is children or teens that get flown.
     
  19. mills

    mills I'll give em a state, a state of unconsciousness

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    Wow, that's really crazy. I always assumed they were rich somehow.

    They're loud, I'll tell you that much.
     
  20. Hudson

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    No, it is usually people that are really fucked up in an accident or fire.
     
  21. stevethrower

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    They use Lifeflight a lot around here due to the layout of the roads around here... basically half the time you can't get there from here.
     
  22. Hudson

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    Oh, I assure you...all volunteer companies get paid for almost every call, at least here. I just had billings and collection added to my responsibility as an officer.
     
  23. gleet

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    Bitch bitch bitch, that's all you people do.

     
  24. OilyJillFart

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    If the fire captain wasn't absolutely sure the only person involved was the one at the DUI stop, he probably did the right thing in this new climate. If there had been another person involved and they weren't found immediately, the suits and settlements would make that emergency response cost look like peanuts.
    So, now he looks like he overdid it, but that will be forgotten soon.. If it went the other way careers would be lost.
    As more and better rescue resources are made available. the expectation is they will be used.
     

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