FU to fate, or whatever the fuck you'd call it

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Like one of the other board members, I've had a shit week so far. Bad things have happened to some amazingly cool people in my life and I'm left wondering what the fuck justice there is in this world.

Case 1: Friend and spouse try for years to get pregnant. No go. They move on, but are always hoping. This year, in the midst of a major medical crisis of another type, they discover they are pregnant with twins. Awesome. Fuckin' great story! Fairy tale ending. She has some issues with the pregnancy, goes on bed rest, etc. She delivers several months early. Baby boy and girl. The baby girl lasts two days. Fuuuuuuuuck. I'm fucking devastated. How the fuck is it that Jemima and Jacquan spit out twenty kids to the yard, but my buddies -- decent, educated, loving and concerned people -- have to deal with this heart break? If they lose the other baby, I'm going to seriously lose it.

Case 2: My new buddy at work just moved to the area few months ago. He's helping us out with a charity event at work. Just found out today his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. This is on top of the woman in our office who died earlier this year and the woman who's battling it now. Fuck cancer and fuck the fact it attacks a beautiful young woman with children and a caring husband and not some fuck-twat child molester who's a cancer on society.

So FU fate. I know the world's not fair, but holy shit. I think the people I'm talking about have dealt with their fair amount of shit and deserve a break.
 

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Case 1: Friend and spouse try for years to get pregnant. ... This year, in the midst of a major medical crisis of another type, they discover they are pregnant with twins.
They both got pregnant?

How the fuck is it that Jemima and Jacquan spit out twenty kids to the yard, but my buddies -- decent, educated, loving and concerned people -- have to deal with this heart break?
To put it bluntly, because the universe is totally indifferent to anyone person or group's problems. It's insane to believe in natural justice.
 

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I hear you loud & clear sir. Good luck to your buddy. My wife & I are going through IVF therapy right now, trying to have a kid. My heart breaks for your friend.
 

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So FU fate. I know the world's not fair, but holy shit.
I'm with AH. The world just is. It isn't fair or unfair. Before human beings began doing some serious observing of reality, of how things happen, of what causes things to happen, and then applying their observations to changing things for the better, dead babies, horrible diseases and plagues, etc. were all commonplace events, just a regular part of the world.

Those bad things are still happening today, but a lot less. To make things even better, we should focus even more on understanding how things work in reality (understanding facts). Here are two facts:

1. Faith is not a part of reality. There's no such thing, it's something people use to rationalize mysterious things that happen to them.
2. There is no correlation between molesting children and cancer. If you think there should be, you better invent cancer in a can and start spraying pedos.

Now, here's the only definition of "fairness" that isn't wishful thinking, but actually built on reality. It is fair for a person, or a group of people, or humanity as a whole, to reap the full benefits of their efforts to improve their condition, within the confines of reality as it is. It is unfair for them to receive unearned benefits, or to receive less than what they've earned. If we do the work required to cure cancer, we deserve to never have anyone (who can afford the cure) to die of cancer again. And if we don't, we deserve to continue to have random (good, bad, doesn't matter) people die of cancer, just like they've been dying so far.

Whether someone who gets it is a saint or a child molester has nothing to do with it being fair. The only criteria is: What has he done to actually prevent himself from getting and/or dying of cancer? Has he been working on a cure, contributing to the fucking Jimmy Fund, etc.? Has he stayed away from radiation, asbestos, etc.? Has he been paying his insurance, and showing up at the hospital for regular screenings? Has he done all these things (especially the first one) well enough to actually make a difference?

If the answer is no, then I don't care if baby Jesus came back to Earth and got cancer on his first birthday. Yelling at the Universe for mistreating him is silly. The Universe isn't listening.
 

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2. There is no correlation between molesting children and cancer.
There, however, a direct correlation between molesting children and the crustiness of one's underwear.

If the answer is no, then I don't care if baby Jesus came back to Earth and got cancer on his first birthday. Yelling at the Universe for mistreating him is silly. The Universe isn't listening.
Exactly.
 

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Life sucks, man. I lost a really good friend who was also a co-worker, months ago. He was 35, in great shape, hand a great wife and kids and he drops dead of a stroke. I did the same thing as you, shook my fist at the sky and promptly said "if you are really up there, god, you suck big fat cock". Now that is some hardcore smite and I've heard rumors that if this so called god is real, he takes a dim view of it. My wife was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, 4 years later she is still alive.

A song by Rush sums up my feelings:
Why are we here?
Because we're here
Roll the bones
Why does it happen?
Because it happens
Roll the bones

Being a fatalistic person, I figure to end up choking on my own blood on the side of some filthy highway. Do I deserve it? Who fucking cares.
 

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we suffer for others sins...I read a book explaining how good honest people ...suffer and die painful and unexpected deaths due to other peoples sins etc...there is good and bad Karma....it gets you in your next lifetime...we can be reincarnated up to 600 times till we learn our lessons and go to heaven...
 

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There were two Catholic priests who did their God Fu thing when I got married... my wife's idea.

One was actually a really nice guy... Father Jim Somethingorother. I had some long discussions with the guy, and he was an extremely intelligent and well-spoken person. Definitely one of the most genuine, kindest people I have ever met.

The other priest was a puny-brained asshole... Father Mike Shitpile. He was everything that is, and has ever been, wrong with the Catholic church. He was just an utter dick. My experiences with him are a whole other story. Maybe I'll post the sad tale later on in another post. But, for now, just know that the guy was a hunk of shit.

Fast forward about five years after my wedding day and here is how God's glorious plan had unfolded...

-Father Jim developed a brain tumor which killed him less than six months after it was first diagnosed. By the accounts, his death was painful and horrible.

Cribbs... that was his name. Father Jim Cribbs. Found his obit...

Rev. James Michael Cribbs, 36, pastor of St. Paul the Apostle Church, Hancock, NY died Saturday morning Jan. 24, 1998. Death occurred at the Wilson Regional Medical Center in Johnson City, NY.
A horrible death at the ripe, old age of 36.

-Father Mike Shitpile was arrested after multiple accusations of kid-touching were made. He was acquitted after the star witness against him committed suicide. The church removed him from his duties at his rinky dink church and "reassigned" him to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany... where he enjoyed much success and many promotions and was eventually in a head muckety muck position at the diocese. He's probably around 70 years old now... lived a good, long life.

It's shit like this that makes me conclude that if there is a God... He's pretty much a dick.
 

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we suffer for others sins...I read a book explaining how good honest people ...suffer and die painful and unexpected deaths due to other peoples sins etc...there is good and bad Karma....it gets you in your next lifetime...we can be reincarnated up to 600 times till we learn our lessons and go to heaven...
And you believed that?
 

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good friends brother died of cancer as has most of my dads family and many co-workers...friend gave me the book from his preacher...it has been the best explanation to date i have heard/read...There is Good and Bad karma...you will thank me in your next life...Trust me ,it all evens out in the end... you can call me crazy,but you can't prove me wrong....

Life is not fair ,nor has it ever been...
 

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we suffer for others sins...I read a book explaining how good honest people ...suffer and die painful and unexpected deaths due to other peoples sins etc...there is good and bad Karma....it gets you in your next lifetime...we can be reincarnated up to 600 times till we learn our lessons and go to heaven...
Here's a thought... if we're suppose to learn from the lessons of the past life, it would help if we remembered it.
 

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good friends brother died of cancer as has most of my dads family and many co-workers...friend gave me the book from his preacher...it has been the best explanation to date i have heard/read...There is Good and Bad karma...you will thank me in your next life...Trust me ,it all evens out in the end... you can call me crazy,but you can't prove me wrong....

Life is not fair ,nor has it ever been...
A preacher? Karma and reincarnation? What kind of stinky new age hippie preacher is talking about voodoo like reincarnation?

And look at this...

we can be reincarnated up to 600 times till we learn our lessons and go to heaven...
Dude... that's the plot of Groundhog Day. It's just silly.

I don't need to prove you wrong. That's not how it works. The onus of proving a wacky claim lies with the person making said wacky claim.

I can't prove that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Does that mean I have to just trust the kooks who claim that 'squatches' do exist and just believe?

Oh... and if reincarnation is real... I want to come back as Beyonce's bike seat.
 

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you can call me crazy,but you can't prove me wrong....
On second thought, yes I can prove you wrong.

Specifically, I can prove this wrong...

we can be reincarnated up to 600 times till we learn our lessons and go to heaven...
That's a mathematical impossibility.

Because, you see, it is a FACT that more people are currently alive RIGHT NOW than the total number of people who have lived and died since humanity began. So there aren't even enough lives to go around to give everybody even one past life, let alone hundreds of past lives.

Sorry, Brougham. It's a cute story... but the numbers don't work.

Unless you're going to start stuffing multiple people into a single person past life, all living their past lives simultaneously in the same past life guy(now we're getting into L Ron Hubbard kooky "body thetan" territory) the numbers just don't work.


Sorry, moonbeam.
 

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The other priest was a puny-brained asshole... Father Mike Shitpile. He was everything that is, and has ever been, wrong with the Catholic church. He was just an utter dick. My experiences with him are a whole other story. Maybe I'll post the sad tale later on in another post. But, for now, just know that the guy was a hunk of shit.
I'd love to hear that story, whether it's here or in it's own thread in the Off Topic forum.
 

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Nothing out of franko?

Oops. I hope I didn't squash his happy. Like maybe I pushed him into a, "Hey! Santa is just dad wearing a fake beard and a red suit!" revelation.
 

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I'd love to hear that story, whether it's here or in it's own thread in the Off Topic forum.
Actually, the more I think about it, the less it seems like an interesting subject. Father Shitpile was just a typical Bible thumper dick... in his simple mind the world was black and white/right and wrong/sin and salvation, etc... the rules were carved in stone, and everybody(except him of course) had to follow the rules to the letter or be damned to fiery perdition.

My run-ins with him are about what you'd expect... just clashes of personality between a free thinker and a pea-brained, dogmatic ass.

The happiest day of my life was when he went on a tirade against abortion in one of his sermons and he called out my wife by direct glare(it may as well have been by name) and accused her of being an abortionist because she was a gynecologist. The happiest day of my life because that was the last time my wife dragged me to that church... and it was years before she dragged to any other church after that.

That's about it.

Sorry if I disappoint.
 

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There is no fate, no karma, no good or bad.

It just IS.
 

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The victims of the world clinging to the silly belief that the universe will hand them the justice they are too weak or incompetent to take for themselves... that's karma.
 

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Nothing out of franko?

Oops. I hope I didn't squash his happy. Like maybe I pushed him into a, "Hey! Santa is just dad wearing a fake beard and a red suit!" revelation.
The Lord wants us to...Love...Forgive...and not Judge...so God Bless you THP ,and all your friends and family...I will gladly have a drink or two and explain what I have learned from many people and books etc over the last 40 years or so...But you must be able talk...AND Listen...few people do the later anymore...
 

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The Lord wants us to...Love...Forgive...and not Judge...so God Bless you THP ,and all your friends and family...I will gladly have a drink or two and explain what I have learned from many people and books etc over the last 40 years or so...But you must be able talk...AND Listen...few people do the later anymore...
I have a question for you (assuming that you're for realz): How do the authors of these books know anything about the afterlife?
 

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The Lord wants us to...Love...Forgive...and not Judge...so God Bless you THP ,and all your friends and family...I will gladly have a drink or two and explain what I have learned from many people and books etc over the last 40 years or so...But you must be able talk...AND Listen...few people do the later anymore...
Bill & Ted want us to be excellent to each other.

And I'll gladly have a drink with you and explain to you how all of those things you've learned from those books and people over the last 40 years are most likely a large crock of shit. It shouldn't be all that hard... look how quickly and easily I straightened you out on your little 600 reincarnations fairytale. You did pay attention when I did that, didn't you? So few people do that anymore... pay attention to logic and reason.

Dog bless you, franko.

May you be touched by His noodly appendage.