FU to New Island Hospital's ER

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I went in yesterday with bad lower back pains around 11 AM. After 3 hours of waiting in the worst waiting room chairs for back pain ever, I got into the ER.

After a while, they took X-rays and said they looked fine.

So they asked for a urine sample (to be sure it wasn't a kidney stone). Since I hadn't eaten or drank anything all day (it was 4 PM by now), I had trouble uninating. So they pumped 2 liters of IV fluid into me and I eventually went. This also came back fine.

So they sent me for a CAT scan. After waiting a couple of hours for the machine to be free, I went up and got it done. Then another couple of hours waiting for the results.

Then the shift change came, and a new doctor (the first one to actually take the time to examine me himself) told me that the CAT scan came back fine. He looked again at my X-ray and determined that I had sciatica caused by a probable herniated disc. He told me to stay off my feet for a few days and gave me a prescription for Vicodin.

So was all the time and unnecessary tests after the X-ray just to pump up my insurance bill?

Now, guess how long it was from getting to the hospital to actually getting some useful help?

14 fucking hours. I got out around 1:30 last night.

And, with every other word out of my mouth for 14 hours being some variation of "OW", guess how long it took before they gave me something for the pain?

Never. Not until I filled the prescription and took the Vicodin at home.

14 hours of sitting in the ER in pain while these dickheads pad their bill with bullshit tests. I hope these doctors fall face-first into a trash can full of used needles.
 

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So was all the time and unnecessary tests after the X-ray just to pump up my insurance bill?
#1- Insurance companies don't pay doctors/hospitals "by the hour"... they can only wish they did.

#2- Because... if the doctor/hospital didn't do every test they have to offer, and they missed something... you could(and probably would) sue their balls off. And being that you were in Nassau County, NY... ONE OF THE MOST LITIGIOUS COUNTIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, you shouldn't be surprised that doctors perform the type of medicine that makes lawyers sad rather than the kind that makes patients happy.

And, with every other word out of my mouth for 14 hours being some variation of "OW", guess how long it took before they gave me something for the pain?
And if the ER dispensed pain pills within ten minutes to every person who walked in and said, "OW"... there'd be a line of dirt bags down the street and around the block... and there'd be a lawyer standing behind every one of them waiting to sue the hospital/doctor for "...enabling their client's addiction!"

Don't blame the doctors... on Long Island, the rules of healthcare are written by lawyers, not doctors.
 

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Which one is now New Island? They fucking change names every year now.
Hospitals on Long Island are constantly changing names because they're constantly forced to "restructure"... which means that every few years they have to shift around huge debts and crushing liability so that they can stay in business.

The latest in cutting edge medical technology... the DaVinci robotic surgery system:

[media]http://www.nextgenmd.org/vol2-5/pictures/davinci1.jpg[/media]

A $1.5 million dollar system.

There are 11 of these systems currently in use in various hospitals in the Indianapolis area... population- approx 800,000.

How many of these systems are currently in use on all of Long Island... population- approx. 8 million?

Zero.

Not a single hospital on Long Island has the money available to acquire a system.

Your healthcare system on Long Island is a bad joke, and blaming the doctors is pointless, misguided, and just plain wrong. Follow the money trail.... it sure as hell won't lead you to a doctor or a hospital.
 

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Why the EFF would you go to New Island? That place sucked when it was Mid-Island Hospital and didn't improve much when it became New Island. Next time, get off the SOB sooner & go to North Shore-Plainview.
 

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Why the EFF would you go to New Island? That place sucked when it was Mid-Island Hospital and didn't improve much when it became New Island. Next time, get off the SOB sooner & go to North Shore-Plainview.
I know. I only went because it hurt to sit upright in the car and New Island was closer. The place is understaffed (2 doctors for the whole ER? WTF?) but that still doesn't explain why it takes 14 hours just to run a few tests and then find out that they knew the answer from the results of the first one.

I could have told them it wasn't a fucking kidney stone . . . the pain was running down through my ass from my right hip. I'm no anatomy expert, but I know my kidney isn't located in my ass cheek.
 

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So from what I read here, doctors are not making any money? Hospitals are strapped for money? Someone should see my bill for my shoulder surgery last month.
 

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I know. I only went because it hurt to sit upright in the car and New Island was closer. The place is understaffed (2 doctors for the whole ER? WTF?) but that still doesn't explain why it takes 14 hours just to run a few tests and then find out that they knew the answer from the results of the first one.
The ER is understaffed because the hospital is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy... like just about every hospital on Long Island. The entire hospital is probably understaffed. They probably have one tech running an antiquated, slow CT machine that they can't afford to upgrade. The lab is probably also understaffed and they're probably running labs on antiquated, slow lab equipment that they can't afford to upgrade.

I could have told them it wasn't a fucking kidney stone . . . the pain was running down through my ass from my right hip. I'm no anatomy expert, but I know my kidney isn't located in my ass cheek.
But if it had been a kidney stone, and the doctor ruled it out without running the whole gamut of tests, you'd be running to a lawyer right now in order to cash in your litigation lottery ticket.

It's called "defensive medicine", and believe me, doctors and hospitals are the LAST people who want to practice medicine that way.

Next time you get sick... call a lawyer.
 

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So from what I read here, doctors are not making any money? Hospitals are strapped for money? Someone should see my bill for my shoulder surgery last month.
L.I. Doctor's salaries have gone down 25%(and falling) over the last decade, and their malpractice insurance premiums have increased 250%(and rising).

There isn't a single hospital on all of Long Island that is reporting profits, and most hospitals are operating under mountains of debt.

The tiny community hospital in Eastern Long Island... Southampton Hospital... is currently 50 million dollars in the red. St. Catherine's Hospital in Smithtown has an operating deficit of 1 million dollars per MONTH. Peconic Bay Medical Center in Riverhead... has O employees employed as security guards. The hospital laid off it's entire Security Dept. in order to cut costs.The hospital where I used to work... St. Charles Hospital in Port Jefferson... whenever it rains hard, the roof leaks into patient rooms. When I started working at the hospital in 2001, I informed the hospital administration that all of their housewide cardic and vital signs monitoring equipment was obsolete as of 1999. That same equipment is still in operation TO THIS VERY DAY, and the roof still leaks.

Where did the money for your shoulder surgery go? Let's follow the money, shall we?...

CEO Compensation- Healthcare Equipment & Services

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/12/Health_care_equipment_services_Rank_1.html

New York Obstetricians Report a Crisis

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...5A35753C1A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

LEAD: Burdened by frequent lawsuits and heavy insurance costs, obstetricians in New York State are increasingly abandoning their practices, leading to overcrowding in public maternity clinics and reducing specialized care in rural areas, according to obstetricians and a recent study of their specialty.

Burdened by frequent lawsuits and heavy insurance costs, obstetricians in New York State are increasingly abandoning their practices, leading to overcrowding in public maternity clinics and reducing specialized care in rural areas, according to obstetricians and a recent study of their specialty.

While obstetrics - the prenatal care and delivery of babies - has declined in popularity among doctors nationwide in recent years, the problem has become acute in New York, where malpractice awards, insurance rates and the incidence of lawsuits against doctors are at or near the nation's highest.
 

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Why in the hell does anyone with M.D. as part of their name work in NY?

They have to be able to take home more cash with less worry and a lightened workload in any other state.
 

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Why in the hell does anyone with M.D. as part of their name work in NY?

They have to be able to take home more cash with less worry and a lightened workload in any other state.
Which is why I'm now sitting 780 miles away from Long Island in Indianapolis. In the last year my wife's medical malpractice insurance went from $180,000 per year to $18,000, and her salary went from $165,000 to $350,000... and this is working far fewer hours and without the stress of lawyers waiting to pounce on her and sue us penniless and homeless.

God bless the fool doctors who do stay in New York... watching their salaries shrink, their liability skyrocket, and taking shit for the crap state of healthcare in NY like it's their fault. God bless 'em.

Enjoy it while you can. In ten years, they'll all wise up, get gone, and this is what you'll have to look forward to when you walk into a hospital in NY...

"Dibble dobble deeble. My name ees Doctor Naheemapedulaopmuhundee. How may I deeble your broken dobble, my friend?"
 

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Enjoy it while you can. In ten years, they'll all wise up, get gone, and this is what you'll have to look forward to when you walk into a hospital in NY...

"Dibble dobble deeble. My name ees Doctor Naheemapedulaopmuhundee. How may I deeble your broken dobble, my friend?"
Whaddya mean in 10 years? That's what's in a lot of our hospitals now.
 

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I feel you man. I just did 8 hrs in ER at Lincoln hosp. in the Bronx for a busted toe and toenail.

On top of being in their with some of the scummiest people to walk the planet, the waiting times were excruciating.

Funny thing is, since i have great health care, the billing people treated me like a king. My night went much smoother and i got tons of unnecesary tests because i'm not on Medicaid...
 

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Yeah, but you have to live in Indianapolis. Enjoy.
Hmmm, let's see... no more sitting in traffic for thirty minutes every time I want to drive 10 miles. No more Mexican wetbacks camped out in the woods three hundred yards from my front door. No more living in fear of savage home invaders and carjackers. No more paying 6 dollars to drive over a bridge and $40 to park my car for a couple of hours. No more of that fucking fingernails-on-a-blackboard 'lawnguyland' accent cutting through my brain like a dental drill every single goddamned day. No more Joey Buttafucco "strong Island" Guidos, or Amy fisher "Oyland" yentas to deal with.

Working zero hours per week... and yet somehow actually making $100,000 more dollars in household income then when I worked a 40-hour-per-week job on Long Island. Being able to live in three times the house I had on Long Island, yet paying half the property taxes.

Yeah... it's a real struggle to enjoy life out here.

You're so lucky to live in the paradise that is the NY metro area... so lucky... you should stay right where you are and keep telling yourself that... over and over.
 

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P.S.-

Five days ago, Eliot Spitzer vowed that he would personally enact a plan to overhaul the medical malpractice system in New York State... and the doctors went, "Hooray!"

Today... the medical malpractice lawyers went, "Yipee Yahoo!"