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CMP is about half way through its conversion to smart meters

DEXTER, Maine — Central Maine Power Co.’s new digital smart meters are so accurate they will detect minute electrical use that may have gone undetected by the old meters, but customers shouldn’t worry about their bills increasing, a CMP official said Thursday.

“It’s going to be very minute,” Rhonda Perkins, CMP’s key account manager, said of any difference in cost.
In 2009, the Maine Public Utilities Commission asked CMP to upgrade its grid and its meter system and the installation of the smart meters that use electronic data recording are part of that process, Perkins told the Dexter Town Council Thursday. CMP received $96 million in federal stimulus funds to help pay for the $192 million upgrade. The remainder of the cost will be paid over a period of 15-20 years, but ratepayers should not see any impact in their bills for the installation costs, according to Perkins.

The company has about 620,000 meters in its customer service area and about 300,000 of those have been changed over to the new meters, Perkins said. Dexter has 2,144 meters that must be changed. The new meters will automatically send information about electrical use to radio repeaters and on to the company, which will eliminate the need for meter readers.

Those meter readers displaced when the smart meters officially come on line in the spring of 2012 have been offered other jobs or early retirement, she said.

While there has been concern expressed about the radio frequency of the new digital meters, Perkins said the units actually produce a very low frequency. In fact, baby monitors, laptops and cell phones produce more frequency than the smart meters, she noted.

“Through the Federal Communications Commission, these meters were tested and deemed safe,” she said.

Once the smart meters are installed and the grid is in place, the meters will send out a signal for less than one minute per day, every day, according to Perkins. The new meters will tell the company when a power outage occurs so customers will not need to call. In addition, customers will be able to monitor their electricity use on a daily basis through their computers through a secure site.

For those still concerned over the frequency, Perkins said residential and small commercial customers can opt out of the smart meters. These customers have two alternate choices: they may have the new smart meter installed without the radio frequency card, a move that would require a one-time $25 fee and an additional monthly charge of $10.50; or they may keep their old mechanical meter for a one-time $40 fee and an additional monthly fee of $12.50 per month.

Customers will be notified before meters are installed in their areas. Perkins said customers should ask for identification when approached by CMP or its contractor VSI Meter Services.
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Why do have to pay for a meter when I don't pay for my existing mechanical one... fuckers...

Oh and looks like Kirk's real name is RobertWilliams... from the comments thread on the article

THE QUOTES FROM Rhonda Perkins, CMP’s key account manager, COULD BE A FAIRY TALE IF THE LIES WEREN'T SO DANGEROUS TO CHILDREN.

SMART METER HEALTH PROBLEMS AND CANCER.

A. The WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION on May 31 2011 placed the Non-ionizing radiation coming from Wireless smart meters (and some other wireless devices) on the Class 2-B Carcinogen List.
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-ce...

B. The NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH months ago (Feb 2011) found biological changes in the brain after only minutes of exposure to non-ionizing radiation.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/conte...

C. LABORATORY SCIENTISTS have observed
(1) Human Cell Damage
(2) DNA Chain Breaks
(3) Breaches in the Blood-Brain Barrier from levels of non-ionizing radiation lower than emitted by WIRELESS Smart meters.
http://electromagnetichealth.o...

D. INSURANCE COMPANIES Hired Independent Laboratory Scientists and these scientists also observed Cell Damage and DNA Chain Breaks and now the Insurance Companies will NOT Insure Liability of damage from Wireless Smart meters and other wireless devices.
TV Video (3 minutes)
http://eon3emfblog.net/?p=382

So shouldn’t MANDATORY installation of Wireless smart meters on people's homes STOP?

Because Cell Phone use and other devices are Voluntary and can be shut off at the user’s discretion, that is a different issue.

1. WIRELESS SMART METERS – 100 TIMES MORE RADIATION THAN CELL PHONES.
Video Interview: Nuclear Scientist, Daniel Hirsch, (5 minutes).
http://stopsmartmeters.org/201...

2. WIRELESS SMART METERS – CANCER, NERVOUS SYSTEM DAMAGE, ADVERSE REPRODUCTION AFFECTS.
Video Interview: Dr. Carpenter, New York Public Health Department, Dean of Public Health, (2 minutes).
http://emfsafetynetwork.org/?p...

3. THE KAROLINSKA INSTITUTE IN STOCKHOLM (the University that gives the Nobel Prizes) ISSUES GLOBAL HEALTH WARNING AGAINST WIRELESS SMART METERS.
2-page Press Release:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4814...

4. RADIATION MEASURED FROM SMART METER MOUNTED ON A HOME (once active in the utility system) SHOWS RADIATION BURST PULSES APPROXIMATELY ONCE EVERY FOUR SECONDS 24 HOURS PER DAY traveling into and through the bodies and brains of the inhabitants of that home.
Youtube Video (6 minutes, 1st minute is sufficient).
 

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Pacific Gas & Electric just installed those here in Northern California. Why the fuck are they getting stimulus money? This actually eliminates fucking jobs.
 

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1. WIRELESS SMART METERS – 100 TIMES MORE RADIATION THAN CELL PHONES.
Video Interview: Nuclear Scientist, Daniel Hirsch, (5 minutes).
http://stopsmartmeters.org/201...
This should be a real concern for all those people who go around holding wireless smart meters up to the sides of their head every day.
 
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Some Maine doctors are having a shit fit about this... as they can remotely cut you off... rather then sending a human to do it... I am just pissed I have to pay for a meter now. Correction 3 meters.
 

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Some Maine doctors are having a shit fit about this... as they can remotely cut you off... rather then sending a human to do it.
Yowza. That's fucked up. The power company would have to be fucking crazy to use that remote cutoff. It seems like they'd be opening themselves up to crazy lawsuits... cutting off power to home medical equipment n' shit.

Damn. Fucking technology... at the same time awesomely cool, and horrifyingly awful.
 
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Yowza. That's fucked up. The power company would have to be fucking crazy to use that remote cutoff. It seems like they'd be opening themselves up to crazy lawsuits... cutting off power to home medical equipment n' shit.

Damn. Fucking technology... at the same time awesomely cool, and horrifyingly awful.
Well they are not supposed to cut you off if say you are running an iron lung or whatever... and remote cut offs have caused a couple of fires as people have been stringing extension cords from their neighbors etc...
 

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Well they are not supposed to cut you off if say you are running an iron lung or whatever... and remote cut offs have caused a couple of fires as people have been stringing extension cords from their neighbors etc...
So what? They like call you up and ask you? Who the fuck would be like, "Oh, no problem. No iron lungs here. Go ahead and shut 'er down."

Of course everyone's going to be all, "No! Don't shut off the power! I've got 14 retarded orphans here on heart bypass pumps n' shit! Please don't murder my retarded heartless orphans!"
 
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So what? They like call you up and ask you? Who the fuck would be like, "Oh, no problem. No iron lungs here. Go ahead and shut 'er down."

Of course everyone's going to be all, "No! Don't shut off the power! I've got 14 retarded orphans here on heart bypass pumps n' shit! Please don't murder my retarded heartless orphans!"
Are you saying people lie so they don't get their power cut off... that's unpossible...
 
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Hmmm more Kirk news from Maine:

As installation of smart meters continues, so does consumer push back

MONROE, Maine — Although Central Maine Power already has converted nearly half of its 620,000 accounts in the state to digital smart meters, some midcoast area customers are continuing to fight back against the change.

The wireless electrical meters will be able to more precisely detect energy usage and the electric utility began converting to the new standard in October after the the Maine Public Utilities Commission in 2009 asked it to upgrade its grid and meter system. It’s expected to be completed in the first quarter of 2012.

But opponents of the wireless meters believe that the radio signals can cause health problems and that their usage is an invasion of privacy, among other concerns. The power company has made it possible for residential and commercial customers to opt out of the smart meters — for an additional installation and monthly fee — but that is not enough for some.

“In my opinion, the meters are dangerous,” said Allyn Beecher of Monroe last week.

He was leading a sparsely-attended informational meeting held Tuesday evening at the Monroe Town Office to let residents know about a proposed six-month moratorium on the installation of the meters. The vote, to be taken at 7 p.m. Wednesday at a special town meeting, will let the community decide whether or not to agree to the moratorium.

One of the six people present termed the switch to smart meters, with its attendant privacy concerns, “Orwellian.”

“This is like the ministry of fear,” said Monroe summer resident Ric Berger. “This becomes incredibly complex science fiction. Maybe science reality.”

Earlier this summer, the Bath City Council passed an ordinance that will block installation of the smart meters for six months unless individual homeowners give explicit permission ahead of time to the utility.

The default meter in Bath now is the old electromechanical meter, which will cost all customers an extra fee. The utility is charging people $40 initially and then $12 each month to keep the old system and its meter readers. In order to have a smart meter that has had its technology disabled, it will cost consumers an initial $20 fee and then $10.50 each month.

In Camden, where CMP has temporarily halted all installation of smart meters until it can mail notices to consumers beforehand, all midcoast residents are invited to attend a public forum Tuesday night that is titled “Smart Meters: A Dumb Idea.”

Nancy Caudle-Johnson of the Camden Smart Meter Safety Coaltion, said that she believes that the radio waves from the smart meters are dangerous and can make people sick. She thinks that it would be possible to have the same type of efficiencies in other ways, and that for many customers paying more money each month in order to avoid the smart meters is not fair.

“What I care about is delivering information to people so they can make an informed decision for themselves and their families,” she said.

However, according to CMP spokesman John Carroll, smart meters have been determined to be safe by the Maine Center for Disease Control and also by the Maine Public Utilities Commission. It’s now the default technology for measuring electric usage.

“What we’re really talking about is wireless communication technology,” he said, adding that this is also used in cell phones, baby monitors, wireless Internet routers and even garage door openers. “It’s a great project. It’s a great technology.”

Some of the benefits of a smart grid include having more reliable power service through shorter and fewer outages, providing customers tools to manage their energy consumption and enabling the U.S. to rely more heavily on clean, renewable energy, according to the Environmental Defense Fund, which supports the switch to smart grid.

The government does, too. Carroll said that CMP received $96 million from the federal government to install the smart meters, which is half the total cost of installation.

He said that it can be frustrating when what what he called “only one to two percent” of customers who are opposed to the smart meters receiving more than an equal share of attention.

“We’re being diverted by this minority of people,” he said.

Someone who shared his feelings on that point was another one of the six attendees at the Monroe information meeting. Although the woman, a farmer, chose not to share her name, before the session began she said that her farm’s energy usage was surely greater than everyone else’s in the room combined.

She said that calling a special meeting to vote on the moratorium was foolish.

“To me, it’s wasting the town’s money,” she said.

But that is not how Caudle-Johnson sees it.

“I think back to things like lead, cigarettes, DDT, BPA — we were told they were perfectly safe,” she said. “The industry lobbyists said they were perfectly safe, and they weren’t. The industry is saying ‘trust us.’ And that’s a bad, bad idea.”

The public forum titled “Smart Meters: A Dumb Idea” will be held 7-9 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 23, at the First Congregational Church in Camden. The featured speaker will be Elisa Boxer-Cook of Scarborough, the founder of the Maine Smart Meter Safety Coalition.
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The "health concerns" thing is bullshit. The communication technology is exactly like a cell phone... only the Smart Meter a cell phone that transmits once a day and in nowhere near as close proximity to a human as a handheld cell phone. Anybody who understands how a cell phone works, understands who this sort of Smart Meter communications is actually FAR safer than a cell phone.

The "Orwellian" argument is bullshit too... the old meters were far more Orwellian in that an actual human being had to actually physically come onto your property to read the meter and/or shut off your power. That seems like a far more egregious "invasion of privacy" than doing it remotely.

The only potential problem I see with the new meters is the potential for hackers to figure out the system and get up to some serious shenanigans.
 

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I disagree with these companies getting stimulus money, but as far as installing the smart meters... fuck it, it's their property. They can install whatever the hell they want. If these people have actual conviction and were that worried about the radiation, they can probably call up the power company, tell them to remove the smart meter, and stop buying power from them.
 

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This is like totally gonna screw up my plans of stealing electricity to run my grow house maaaaaaaan. Those lights aren't cheap to run broooooo.
 
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Again my point is why do I have to pay for three new smart meters... when I pay nothing for my old electro mechanical dumb meters.
 

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So what? They like call you up and ask you? Who the fuck would be like, "Oh, no problem. No iron lungs here. Go ahead and shut 'er down."

Of course everyone's going to be all, "No! Don't shut off the power! I've got 14 retarded orphans here on heart bypass pumps n' shit! Please don't murder my retarded heartless orphans!"
that made me loff like a retard
 

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I am glad I am on SoCal Edison and we have none of this yet but I have heard nothing but bad stories from PG&E customers who have them

everyone who has one has had their bill go up and some have been a lot

this is more than for remote reading and termination, it can sense if you are using power at the "wrong time of day" and charge you more for the power

big brother crap
 

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On a side note, a big FU to PECO, power supplier down here in Philadelphia - just got a letter stating they are stopping the heat pump discount as of this year. So, when it gets uber cold and my 10kw electric heaters kick in, I'm paying full price. Hello $500 electric bills in the winter time.
 
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Did they give a reason for doing this?

I do want to eventually get a small panel set up so I can run the barn... specifically the electric fences and during the winter the heated buckets.
 

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The Kirk Strongs who are harping about "big brother" privacy invasion, and guv'mint mind control death ray smart meters are useful idiots. Central Maine Power loves you guys. Because you distract away from the scummy shit that they're actually doing in this situation... they're using taxpayer money to install equipment which will lower their costs, but they're actually going to use that technology as an excuse and a method to raise your rates.

It's a complete flim flam.

If you think the power company gives one shit about you and your "privacy" beyond how much they can squeeze out of your wallet, then you're suffering from delusions of self importance.

But you dopes keep blabbering on about George Orwell and death rays and distract everyone from the real issue of the corporate thievery that's being perpetrated.
 
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The Kirk Strongs who are harping about "big brother" privacy invasion, and guv'mint mind control death ray smart meters are useful idiots. Central Maine Power loves you guys. Because you distract away from the scummy shit that they're actually doing in this situation... they're using taxpayer money to install equipment which will lower their costs, but they're actually going to use that technology as an excuse and a method to raise your rates.

It's a complete flim flam.

If you think the power company gives one shit about you and your "privacy" beyond how much they can squeeze out of your wallet, then you're suffering from delusions of self importance.

But you dopes keep blabbering on about George Orwell and death rays and distract everyone from the real issue of the corporate thievery that's being perpetrated.
Hello exactly... odd thing is you can opt out of the smart meter... but you get the honor of paying a higher "installation" fee... and more per month for actually having a warm body come by your house and read your meter.

Get this:

Standard Wireless Smart Meter: Go ahead and install the Standard Smart Meter.
There is no additional cost for the Standard Smart Meter.

A Smart Meter that emits no radio signal

One-time charge of $20, plus
Monthly charge of $10.50

CMP will read the meter every two months for billing, and send an estimated bill for the alternate months. Customers will have access to hourly usage information on line, but the data will be updated every other month after meter reading.

Note: The modified Smart Meter is not expected to be available before March, 2012, but you may select this option now.

An electro-mechanical meter, like the meter you have today.

One-time charge of $40, plus
Monthly charge of $12

An electro-mechanical meter with no wireless communications technology. CMP will read the total recorded electricity usage every two months for billing, and send customers an estimated bill for the alternate months.

So it costs $24 (every second month) for some guy to spend three seconds sitting in his truck reading our meters... nice.

Oh and it looks like they are outsourcing the meter reading... fuckers.