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Gay Entitlement Movement Wins Victory in New Mexico

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  1. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    New Mexico has officially gone to the opposite extreme of the gay rights (and religious freedom) spectrum.

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/08/23/new-mexico-guarantees-gay-couples-rights
     
  2. Sinn Fein

    Sinn Fein Infidel and White Interloper
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    I have an uncle who lives there. Many of us in the family expect him to come out of the closet any day now. He is by-far the most whacked-out lib in the family and lately out of nowhere he's been posting all kinds of pro-gay stuff on Facebook. I'm expecting something any moment now about this story.
     
  3. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    As expected. There's a long running tradition of the government enforcing tolerance at the expense of individual rights. Unless people start opposing the practice on principle, almost everyone will eventually get their turn in being made to do things they don't like.

    This is no different from a racist business owner being forced to serve blacks, or a smart business owner being forced to hire women. ;)

    The only people who get to be exempt from this abuse are the ones with enough political pull to exempt themselves (basically, churches get to discriminate against gays and liberal colleges against whites; everyone else is subject to the same rules). I guess the wedding photographer lobby isn't what it used to be, huh? They should either start a religion or a college, and then revisit the issue.
     
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    This is bullshit, just like the private portion of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It completely decimates the freedom of association and contract. Decisions like this are specifically used against the gay rights movement. I know from experience: I have a super-Christian cousin who opposes basically ANY gay rights and her excuse (besides Jesus) is ALWAYS that "the gay agenda isn't just about equal rights, it's about special rights...", then she inevitably goes on about some case where a florist was forced to make flower arrangements for a gay couple, or something.

    It's really hard to debate against people like that, because, in reality, they are right. Being a libertarian, of course I always try to explain that we are against these civil rights laws that restrict private individuals and companies and would like to see them repealed. They rightly point out that that is never going to happen, so, any more rights granted to gays are more areas in which "regular" people will be forced to respect or participate in those rights, ergo don't give them equal rights.

    At least the judge seems to recognize that this is a terrible decision, but as the law is written, he had no choice. This actually might be a positive, in that only when laws are enforced to the fullest extent do people realize what an encroachment they have become. As long as most people don't see the effect of a law, bad laws will sit on the books and be arbitrarily applied to certain groups.
     
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  5. stevethrower

    stevethrower Got Sig?

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    Ok umm no expert here... but if you are getting married and you don't like your photographer (or s/he does not like you or your lifestyle) wouldn't you just hire another one... regardless if you are straight or ghey or whatever?

    I could see an issue if say the local JP refused to marry you due to the ghey...
     
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  6. steve500

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    This is a great way to show people who are on the fence about gay rights that their slippery slope fears may have some merit.
     
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  7. Don the Radio Guy

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    Yep. Exactly what is going to happen. Instead of just letting things happen naturally, forcing the hand of society always leads to shit like this.
     
  8. HandPanzer

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    This is an excellent example of Governmental overreach and the need to reclaim private ownership. The Government does not have any business legislating a private citizen's intolerant/anti-pc/ignorant/hateful/different beliefs, as these actions are not criminal. Why the hell can't people differ with other groups provided they do no harm to said group? It's mind-boggling.
     
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  9. THE FEZ MAN

    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    I reserve the right to refuse service, and the consumer has the right to take there business elsewhere.
     
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  10. stevethrower

    stevethrower Got Sig?

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    Exactly... and the consumer can write a snotty Yelp review...
     
  11. DR. Jimcy M.E.

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    How many straight wedding photographers can there be? Just pick another one.
     
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  12. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    It's not about the wedding photos. Daddy didn't like me, so I'm gonna make everyone else like me. Whether they like it or not. You're gonna like me, god dammit, or you're gonna lose your business.
     
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  13. DR. Jimcy M.E.

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    Ok ok, I liked you.

    That's like some jedi mind trick shit right there.
     
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  14. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    Yep. And there's your reacharound.
     
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    Wrecktum Tounge puncher of fart boxes

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    My boss hates the young black males that come into the bar. He finds creative ways to skirt around the law. With a dress code and not having certain types of liqour. If this bitch was smart she could have figured a way to get around it. But I Gaurentee she started quoting the Bible or some shit.
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    "Sorry, sirs. Only one Y-chromosome per photo."
     
  17. JonBenetRamsey

    JonBenetRamsey well shit the bed

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    tolerance means you put up with something existing. you don't have to like something to tolerate it. people need to get a fucking dictionary.
     
  18. DR. Jimcy M.E.

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    Like black people.
     
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    You don't get to be an attention whore if you do that.
     
  20. Madness

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    Tolerance means acceptance in today's society.
     
  21. CougarHunter

    CougarHunter Lying causes cat piss smell.

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    Her husband must be one of my distant relations. That last name isn't exactly Smith or Jones.
     
  22. whiskeyguy

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    It's leading to one thing... the State owns your labor, skills, and talents, and tells you when and when not to use them.

    1) Wouldn't you rather the racist/homophobes/sexists were outspoken, so you knew who they were?

    2) Wouldn't you rather not pay money to someone who hates you?

    3) How good of a job do you expect someone will do who is forced to be there against their will?
     
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  23. HandPanzer

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    Truly equality means having special rules for your group.

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  24. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    Collectivism is the fucking worst.
     
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  25. tattered

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    But thats not the definition of tolerate.......
     
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