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Group sues Texas governor for 'unconstitutional' participation in prayer rally

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  1. MACHINE1376

    MACHINE1376 Thin out the herd...

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  2. whiskeyguy

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    Eh, not sure what I think here. My initial reaction was to agree with the lawsuit, but I don't know now. He's basically instating a national day of prayer (non-denominational), and then he is attending the services/event that he associates with. Based on the article I can't see there being any benefit/downfall to any group. It's not a mandate to pray, and it's not like deciding to pray gives you anything special.

    If it's truly nondenominational, and just a name put on a date, I don't really care. If it were the "Christian day of prayer", then I would be against it. "Separation of church and state" is not in the Constitution literally, it's an interpretation of the constitution.

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    One of the demands of the lawsuit. You can't stop a person, politician or otherwise, from participating in their religious events. That would be unconstitutional.
     
  3. Party Rooster

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    I wish I lived in Texas. I'd show up with a Muslim prayer mat just to test their "non-denominational" sensibilities. :icon_mrgr
     
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    I was hoping to show up with a hooker and get blown.
     
  5. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    He is a private citizen attending a privately held event. No legislation is being passed and it is not being held on government property.

    Move on.
     
  6. whiskeyguy

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    The participation cannot be questioned... that's his right. The only questionable thing is this:

    It sounds like he made an official Texas "Day of Prayer". I could maybe see some people getting pissed off about this, but if it's nondenominational and carries no other benefits, then I don't think it's unconstitutional.
     
  7. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    Again, as long as nothing is actually put to paper and made official, I have no problem with it. It's when it's official or held on government property (that is not normally rented out for events) that it becomes an issue.
     
  8. Party Rooster

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    I agree. But his bible-thumpiness is probably going to alienate more people than it draws closer to him.

    I think this same group tried suing over Obama's National Day of Prayer and it was dismissed on appeal at the federal level. I would think that would be good enough precedent for these guys, but even their foundation name can't seem to get the whole "freedom from/freedom of thing" right constitutionally.
     
  9. CousinDave

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    I think I read that Perry used to be a Democrat
     
  10. Don the Radio Guy

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    Replace "good guys" with "attention seeking assholes", and this thread isn't even necessary.
     
  11. LiddyRules

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    Here we go again...
     
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    Houston Chronicle:

    Oh please God, help Rick Perry win the GOP nomination.
     
  13. whiskeyguy

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    Wait, Obama did this also? Unconstitutional! Fucking Unconstitutional!

    :action-sm
     
  14. Don the Radio Guy

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    Here we go again...

    Even Biv thinks these people are assholes. You're whining up the wrong tree this time.
     
  15. Stig

    Stig Wackbag's New Favorite Heel

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    They probably found out he was religious and kicked him out. Diversity, multiculturalism, tolerance... all that stuff.
     
  16. Kirk Strong

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    Is he using tax payer money? Is some sort of law being created forcing people to pray to Jesus? They got nothing.
     
  17. BIV

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    Not that this guy doesn't fail at life, he just has the right to be an asshole.
     
  18. Warfarer

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    Why is this a story anywhere? Some governor decided to name a day "national prayer day" and people go ape shit. If you don't like it, then don't worry about it. I really don't give a shit what someone else does as long as they don't try to push it on me, and I wouldn't feel that this was being pushed on me. Now if I went into a restaurant and ordered a burger on August 6 and they told me I needed to find god because it is fasting and prayer day, then I got some issues with it.

    While religious people are assholes for the most part shoving their beliefs on others, atheists and non-believers are becoming as bad.
     
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    The liberal left have taken the place of the religious. You can't say anything in public without some left wing group crying about it.
     
  20. whiskeyguy

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    I just want to point out that if Kirk is taking the side of a government, you know they did nothing wrong.
     
  21. Begbie

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    Right on. It's really nothing to get all worked up over. If they were forcing people to pray and fast, then fine, you got an argument. Otherwise, leave them the fuck alone and go about your business. But they can't do that since they're a scumbag organization whose sole intent is to meddle and create these issues. They're no different than these other scumbag organizations on the left and right who claim they're mission is to prevent people from forcing their beliefs on others, when all they're really doing is forcing they're own beliefs on the people and limiting our freedoms. Fuck'em.
     
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    Probably because Perry is a potential presidential candidate who happens to believe God has called upon him to enact a right wing agenda.


    Given the head start religion has had it will take a while for non-believers to be just as bad, nevermind the false equivalence between politicians using their positions in the government to organize religous observances and the citizens asking them to stop.
     
  23. Von Maestro

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    Freedom OF Religion not Freedom FROM Religion.

    What a non-fucking story.
     
  24. Don the Radio Guy

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    In the past hundred years, they're hanging right in there. Just ask anyone who lived in the USSR, Cambodia, North Korea or China.
     
  25. Party Rooster

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    And leave it to Don to try and trudge out that lame ass argument. Those people didn't kill in the "name" of atheism.
     

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