Hillary boosts warning to Gaza flotilla activists

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US boosts warning to Gaza flotilla activists, says participants may violate US law

Article by: MATTHEW LEE , Associated Press
Updated: June 24, 2011 - 2:23 PM

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration on Friday stepped up pressure on American activists planning to challenge Israel's sea blockade of the Gaza Strip, formally warning they face action from Israeli authorities and may be violating U.S. law.

The warning was the latest in a series from the State Department this week urging Americans not to join a flotilla planned to commemorate a similar effort to challenge the blockade last year. That voyage ended in a deadly clash with the Israeli navy in which an American citizen was killed.

The warnings came after 36 Americans said they will sail a U.S.-flagged vessel in the flotilla and come at a delicate point in U.S. diplomatic efforts to get Israel and the Palestinians to resume stalled peace talks.

American participation, which Israel has vowed to thwart, could embarrass the administration as the ship the group intends to use is named "The Audacity of Hope," which takes its name from the title of President Barack Obama's best-selling book.

"We don't think it is useful, helpful or productive for the people of Gaza," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said, weighing in on the matter for the second time in two days. "We have certainly encouraged that American citizens not participate in the flotilla and we are urging that all precautions be taken to avoid any kind of confrontation."

Friday's formal warning said attempts to break the blockade are "irresponsible and provocative" and notes that Israel has well-established means of delivering assistance to the Palestinian residents of Gaza. It also pointed out that the territory is run by the militant Hamas group, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, and that Americans providing support to it are subject to fines and jail.

"Groups that seek to break Israel's maritime blockade of Gaza are taking irresponsible and provocative actions that risk the safety of their passengers," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement. She said the U.S. "deeply regrets" that May 31, 2010 confrontation between the previous flotilla and Israeli naval forces, which resulted in deaths, including of a dual citizen of Turkey and the U.S.

The death of Furkan Dogan put the administration in a difficult position as critics of its Mideast policy demanded that the U.S. rebuke Israel for its actions. The incident also highlighted international concern about the plight of Palestinians in Gaza, which until recently was largely cut off from the outside world.

Nuland said that the U.S. is concerned about humanitarian conditions in Gaza, but urged those seeking to send aid there to use established channels. She said that Israel continues to have legitimate security concerns about cargo going into Hamas-controlled Gaza, citing recent seizures of weapons and ammunition bound for the territory.

"We underscore that delivering or attempting or conspiring to deliver material support or other resources to or for the benefit of a designated foreign terrorist organization, such as Hamas, could violate U.S. civil and criminal statutes and could lead to fines and incarceration," Nuland said.

Since the American activists announced their plans Monday, the State Department has issued three increasingly dire warnings on three consecutive days.

On Wednesday, the department's travel warning for Israel, the West Bank and Gaza specifically advised against "participation in any attempt to reach Gaza by sea." On Thursday, Clinton said the flotilla organizers were attempting only to provoke Israel into taking military action, something she said would be justified.

Flotilla organizers have not set a date for setting sail, but their ships are expected to leave from various European ports in the next week.

Meanwhile, senior U.S. diplomats have been trying to get the peace process back on track. U.S. officials are hoping that Obama's May 19 speech on the Middle East, in which he laid out a foundation for re-launching negotiations, may spur movement.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/124492488.html
 

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US captain of Gaza ship held in ‘shocking conditions’

By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, July 3rd, 2011 -- 8:43 am

The captain of a US vessel intercepted after it tried to defy a ban and sail for Gaza from Greece was being held in "shocking conditions" Sunday and has not received consular assistance, a lawyer said.

Captain John Klusmer was arrested when the US boat Audacity of Hope -- the flagship in a flotilla of pro-Palestinian activists -- attempted to leave Greek waters on Friday after Athens banned all Gaza-bound ships from setting sail.

Klusmer was charged with felony and ordered to appear in court on Tuesday. The US Boat to Gaza organisation said he was being held in jail in "shocking conditions" and as far as it was aware, had not yet received consular assistance.

New York lawyer Richard Levy -- a passenger on the boat who has visited Klusmer in jail in a port town near Athens -- told enraged US activists that "he had no bed or toilet in his cell, and is receiving no food or water".

"We've offered to pay his bail," said passenger Robert Naiman, from the Washington-based Just Foreign Policy organisation. "But we have had no indication at all that he will be allowed out of jail before Tuesday."

The US embassy in Athens was not available for comment.

The Audacity of Hope -- which was carrying 3,000 letters of support for Palestinians -- set sail without warning, leaving behind nine other ships that had hoped to sail together to challenge Israel's naval blockade on Gaza.

It was quickly intercepted by a coastguard vessel with masked, armed men on board. After a two-hour stand-off, the boat turned back to a small naval port.

Passengers were free to go but initially chose to stay on board in defiance of the Greek authorities.

Sunday morning they were back in Athens to "do what we can to help the captain", including "reaching out to members of the US Congress" for help in getting Klusmer released or improving the conditions in which he is held.

The flotilla has been beset with bureaucratic problems and two cases of "sabotage" over the last week and only four of the initial 10 boats -- two French, one Spanish and one Canadian -- were in the running Sunday.

Organisers said three of the boats planned to set sail Monday morning, despite the Greek ban which is in place "until futher notice". Activists said they were "resigned" to being intercepted by the coastguard.

A fourth boat, the French Dignity, was going to attempt to sail Sunday, but was thought to be heading for Crete, not Gaza.

The ships will be sailing illegally because they have not resolved a series of bureaucratic issues and some have had key documents confiscated by the Greek authorities.

Israel credited its "diplomatic efforts" for the delays and setbacks that have kept the vessels grounded.

"I welcome all the efforts that have been made to stop the flotilla," Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman Lieberman said Sunday.

"The success... is the fruit of intensive contacts with states in the region and the international community," he said.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/03/us-captain-of-gaza-ship-held-in-shocking-conditions/
Thought this was the funniest part of the story:
A fourth boat, the French Dignity, was going to attempt to sail Sunday, but was thought to be heading for Crete, not Gaza.
The French "Dignity" was tapping out?
 

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"US boosts warning to Gaza flotilla activists, says participants may violate US law"

is it me, or does that article not saying anything about US law violations?

ie: what law?
 

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This whole second Flotilla thing is falling completely apart. Ships getting sabotaged, organizations pulling out, and now this greek thing. Not to mention that both Abbas and Gaza businessmen think it is an unnecessary waste of time. It is a complete disaster.

Not really. She'd rather have the minor headache of going after these people than the headache of having something happen to them if they do participate. And Hillary has always been fairly solid on this stuff.
 

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is it me, or does that article not saying anything about US law violations?

ie: what law?
It's you.


It also pointed out that the territory is run by the militant Hamas group, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, and that Americans providing support to it are subject to fines and jail.
Pretty sure that falls under "providing material support for terrorism."

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Netanyahu probably offered the Greeks free hi-tech Rafael riot/crowd control weapons :icon_cool
It's not even that. These fuckers are leaving Greek port with no authorization. They are breaking Greek law. These types of people don't give a fuck about anyone's laws.
 

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Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship
I certainly don't trust that website, but you gotta love the domain name.
 

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I certainly don't trust that website, but you gotta love the domain name.
That quote is not actually wrong. It simply misrepresents the situation. You gotta realize that at that point Israel was fighting on all fronts, and faced the genuine possibility of destruction. Someone in the military apparatus did know ahead of time that it was American, but the info wasn't transferred to the appropriate people in time to stop an attack (again - the entire military was in chaos because a war was going on).

And besides, why is the US spying on Israel during a war, not responding to calls from Israeli aircraft? WTF did they think would happen?
 

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Good point. 1) We spy on EVERYONE, ALL the time. 2) We always keep our options open. We might have knifed Israel in the back the second it became slightly advantageous to do so.

That's what Chavez doesn't seem to grasp - yeah we financially and ideologically backed the coup motherfucker, so what, you gotta pick a side. Sovereignty? Fuck your sovereignty, you shitty commie militant regime.
 

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Good point. 1) We spy on EVERYONE, ALL the time. 2) We always keep our options open. We might have knifed Israel in the back the second it became slightly advantageous to do so.

That's what Chavez doesn't seem to grasp - yeah we financially and ideologically backed the coup motherfucker, so what, you gotta pick a side. Sovereignty? Fuck your sovereignty, you shitty commie militant regime.
I agree. Israel has also spied on the US, and now we have a spy who's been in a US prison since 1987. Spying is always a calculated risk.

And regarding the Liberty thing - all side agree that it was a fucked up, tragic accident. The only people who are unwilling to accept that are 1)Families of people who died on the Liberty (somewhat understandable, I guess. You never want to think your loved one died for no reason), and 2) Anti-Israel Americans who use it as some sort of "proof" that Israel is not a real friend of the US (which is horse crap).
 

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In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the U.S. claim of $7,644,146 for material damage to the Liberty itself.[8]
sounds like jew deception
 

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i'll leave this here for the code-pink fags on this forum to rationalize

[video=youtube;oFdt6fjdHQw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFdt6fjdHQw[/video]

"we need to invest billions into a mammoth [palestinian] protection force.... a meaningful military presence"

Obama is such a fucking radical, I can't belive the people who still try to deny it. Look at his chicago union/communist buddies. He sat in a church every sunday with Rev. Wright... you think he hung around these people for their charming personalities? I thought he's some smart harvard/columbian law professor.. he never figured out their ideology??? He had Van Jones -who wants to overthrow the US government and install communism- WORKING INSIDE the whitehouse as his 'green czar'!!! He's friends with Bill Ayers, a 60's communist TERRORIST

How can you on one hand say "The president is soooo intelligent this man is brilliantly smart" and then act like he's a dumb fuck who doesn't know who his friends are.


[video=youtube;X4EHmzslKLw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EHmzslKLw[/video]

yeah..when I hit the college campus scene... I went and found me some communists to go hang out with :icon_eek:
 

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that's why our country is doomed.

nobody cares, and nobody understands the end game of this.

massive national debt crisis + marxist sympathizing president = statism and major fundamental change, the end of private ''capitalism'' as we know it.

No one can connect the dots (or wants to). We will be going through a unprecedented national emergency when our phony economy collapses, and Obama the keynesian socialist/marxist will be calling the shots.

There is a reason why there is a coordinated attempt to deligitamize the constitution, the founding fathers, and their ideas about limiting government power to prevent tyranny.

it's working pefectly




doomed, so doomed
 

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yea we all know the jews like to sink us ships anyway

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I hate to be Nit Picky Nicky, but the USS Liberty didn't sink. Matter of fact... it sailed away from that incident under it's own power, and it eventually made it's way back to the US.
 

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I hate to be Nit Picky Nicky, but the USS Liberty didn't sink. Matter of fact... it sailed away from that incident under it's own power, and it eventually made it's way back to the US.

shhhhhhhhhhh, next thing you'll start telling people about the sinking of the Maine or the Gulf of Tonkin
 

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120 foreign activists detained by Israel

By IAN DEITCH
The Associated Press

JERUSALEM — Some 120 foreign activists were being held in Israeli jails Saturday, awaiting deportation, after arriving at Tel Aviv's airport over the weekend as part of a solidarity mission with the Palestinians.

Others who managed to get through Israeli border controls traveled to the West Bank where they joined a demonstration against Israel's separation barrier. Associated Press Television footage showed some foreign activists, along with Palestinians, cutting threw the barrier's barbed wire fence with clippers.

One of the activists, Michael Berg, 36, from St. Louis, said he attended the protest but was not involved in the vandalism. Organizers said a small number of the foreigners who participated in cutting the fence were among those who had flown in on the solidarity mission, while others had arrived in the West Bank previously.

Israel had previously expressed concern about the "fly-in," saying it feared some of those trying to reach the West Bank would engage in violence.

Initially, some 600 foreign activists planned to fly to Tel Aviv over the weekend for what they said would be a peaceful mission in the West Bank. Israel controls all access to the West Bank, and those trying to reach it have to enter through Israeli-held crossings.

Israel took a series of measures to try to avert the mass arrival and weed out those it considered troublemakers. Israeli authorities compiled a blacklist with more than 300 names and asked foreign airlines to block those on the list from boarding Tel Aviv-bound flights. Hundreds more landed at Tel Aviv's airport over the weekend, and more than 400 were questioned by police, said Interior Ministry spokeswoman Sabine Haddad.

Of those, 130 were detained and six sent home immediately, she said. Another four signed forms promising not to participate in violent activities and were granted entry to Israel, she said. Haddad said all those currently in detention were offered to be released if they signed the forms.

The remaining 120 are being held at two Israeli jails, Haddad said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/120-foreign-activists-detained-1006835.html