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how to kill a blue heron? (in city limits)

Discussion in 'The Great Outdoors' started by Dikbag, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. Dikbag

    Dikbag Registered User

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    So I got home from work today and noticed 2 of my 6-8" goldfish are missing and one of my big Koi has some battle damage. At least they were just goldfish this time. Last year the asshole Heron got my favorite Koi. Which was $80. There's nowhere for them to hide this early in the year without the lily pads growing so I threw my kids inflatable pool in there for now.

    Anyway, I wanna kill this thing. The 12ga or .45 would be too risky in town. I've actually never shot, or even heard a .22. How loud is it? My backyard and pond is surrounded by a 7ft fence so I doubt anyone would know where it came from if the cops were called. Still pretty risky though.

    What about those Crossman air rifles, the ones that are over $100 and like 1200fps? Would it be enough to kill a large bird like a blue heron? Any other ideas?
     
  2. weeniewawa

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  4. Sinn Fein

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    Are they protected?

    Edit: They are federally protected.
     
  5. Dikbag

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    That's a little pricey considering what the remaining fish are worth vs the chance I will catch the fucker in my yard and be able to sneak up and shoot it. If one of those $100 1000fps Crossmans from walmart would do it I might do that.

    Maybe I can make one of those nets with the weights around the edges to throw over it. Then I can snap it's neck. ooh just remembered I have an axe.

    Are these asshole birds protected in any way?, legally I mean.
     
  6. Sinn Fein

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    You should look into ways to repel them...
     
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  7. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    They're federally protected. Don't kill it. Find a way to make it leave on it's own, or get some professionals involved.

    Meantime, some raised netting over the fish pond might help.
     
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  8. Dikbag

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    I have, all of the repellents only work as long as it takes the bird to figure out it's safe. Apparently they are very smart and will sit and watch your stupid scarecrow/owl/coyote decoy, motion activated noises or water sprayers, and figure out it's not real and-or can't hurt them.. These things along with any physical barrier, like my kids pool floating in my pond, are an eyesore to my beautiful landscape. So the bird must die.
     
  9. Dikbag

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    well shit, I guess I'll just have to get something that's less of an eyesore for them to hide under until the lily pads grow in. maybe if I shoot it with my old bb gun it won't came back.
     
  10. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    Don't do it.

    Get some lightweight black netting, and drape it over the pond with stakes. It'll be unobtrusive, but make it harder for the bird to get in - or tangle it's dumb ass up if it tries. My mom uses it to keep the raccoons out of her Koi pond, and it works pretty well. Lift it up to clean, and you can toss fish food through the net no problem.
     
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    VMS Victim of high standards and low personal skills.

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    My folks had the same problem, though they're not in city limits.

    They eventually got a couple of concrete tunnel pieces that were big enough for the koi to hid in. It meant that they didn't get quite the same look, of course, but their koi could swim into the tunnel pieces and be safe from the heron.

    You keep goldfish in with koi? Don't you have competition problems? Not direct competition, but my parents' koi have basically been out-muscled for all the food and resources in their pond by the goldfish. The goldfish are hardier, so in the winter they'll out-scavenge the koi and be able to handle the winter better, get to the pellets faster, etc. It's pretty much all goldfish in their pond now.
     
  13. Creasy Bear

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    Just put Artie Lange in your backyard. He loves doing heron.
     
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  14. metallikat87

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    I wouldn't recommend shooting a protected species but i use Super Colibri .22 shells for yard pests at my house. They are primer actuated, since they don't have any gun powder they sound like a pellet gun in my lever-action Henry. Of course they are slower than a normal .22 but they will drop a small nuisance animal.
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    He needed the money,

    or,

    I thought heron was brown
     
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    pic of the pond? what about a motion activated pendulum (swinging back the other way) or rotating arm....or chicken wire just below the surface...
     
  17. Chino Kapone

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    Put 3 or 4 large rubber snakes around your pond, or on a lilly pad when they grow back.
     
  18. Dikbag

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    here it is, backyard doesn't look so pretty right now. Once I clean it up, mulch, and everything grows in it looks a lot different.

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    here's my 3 remaining fish, just behind the head of the black and orange one you can see where it's missing scales from the heron trying to get it.
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  19. DR. Jimcy M.E.

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    I hear pressure cookers work pretty well.
     
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  20. CougarHunter

    CougarHunter Lying causes cat piss smell.

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    Nobody knows where one gun shot comes from. Especially if you do it from inside the house from an open window...
     
  21. VicVinegar

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    When I worked as a consultant, we'd call USDA APHIS for a nuisance protected species. Not sure if they would help out a regular Joe, but maybe they can suggest how to deal with it. Or it'd just put you on the radar for dealing with nonsense.

    On a quick Google, it seems Herons ravaging Koi ponds isn't a new thing. Probably some forum posts out there.

    It looks like a fake heron may do the job. Herons don't like to hang out together I guess. So if the real one thinks your pond is occupied, they'll keep going. Probably have to read more to see if it actually is effective.
     
  22. tattered

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    Dammit! I was just gonna make a heroin joke
     
  23. NotSoFast

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    I agree. One shot and no one will be able to tell where it came from. Just wait an hour or so before you come out of the house. A friend of mine does that with deer on his property. Shoot them through an open bathroom window just at dusk. Wait till well after dark to go drag them back to the house. .22 magnum from about 50-75 yards on his 5 acres.
     
  24. Jef Leppard

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    gay ass fish
     
  25. Sinn Fein

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    Your friend is an asshole.
     
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