Discussion in 'Current Events' started by stevethrower, Jan 22, 2012.
Let me summarize. Because Chinese factories aren't afraid to treat workers like shit, they get more business. No wonder this isn't a sustainable model in the United States.
Coming soon to a FEMA camp near you...
I guess we just lack that hive mentality.
Is this fucker actually gushing admiringly over a manufacturing process which involved workers who live in company dormitories being rousted out of bed at midnight, given bread and water, and then forced to work 12 hour shifts?
Breathtaking? No... I think the word you're looking for is appalling.
Isn't starting a union at Foxcon punishable by death?
Isn't that the company who makes their workers sign a contract which forbids them from committing suicide?
If you try to start a union, we'll kill you. If you kill yourself, we'll fire you.
Well the president of Foxconn is a charmer...
That is a HUGE number, and holy shit if it's true....
I am Libertarian, so whatever these fucks do is up to them, however, at that scale of profit it should stop being solely about profit and some part of them *should* kick in a bit of logic and understand that what is good for this country is good for their company, not just profits. Even though profits are fucking kick ass
I wonder what the profit per employee would be if portions of that manufacturing were in the states.....even if it cut the profit in half, you have to know that you are making a difference in the country that provides the freedoms you exploited to create this global company.
Your mouth says libertarian, but your words say so-so-so-socialism.
Yeah I know...
I own my own business, so my perspective might be different than some folks. When you have that kind of real responsibility for other peoples welfare, your mind does make some different choices than when I was working strictly for monetary gain.
It's a heavy weight at times to have to choose wisely between short term gain and long term goals that benefit everyone.
I would be more likely to re-invest that profit into putting soldiers to work, or helping a city get a better tax base, something that makes a difference.....at Apples scale they can do shit like that, at mine I'm just trying to keep my folks employed. How much money is enough to people? To them it's not enough yet apparently, to me at that scale it'd be enough and then some...
I sound like a fucking hippy I know
FoxCon had to put up nets all around their buildings to attempt to cut down on the suicide rate. And yes, I do believe I read that you will get a 5 year sentence for voicing any sort of dissent and they will kill anybody that attempts to start a union.
After this exchange with Jobs they did an independent study on what the iPhone would cost if it was made in America, I think it came out to the cost going up 23%. That's if the workers were paid a descent wage with benefits. I'm glad Steve Jobs got cancer, he deserved it. Not because he uses foreign workers, but because he allows companies like FoxCon to operate the way the do.
A company like Apple is in a big enough spot to where they could actually dictate some of the working conditions going on over there, but yes it would affect their bottom line. You'd think the good pub they'd get from something like that would make them look better in the long run to a lot of their hippie clientele though.
I'm a douchebag for saying it because I have an iPad and I use an iPhone, but it cracks me up to thnk of the hipsters that believe they are alternative, supporting this global corporation that oppresses workers and contributes to what equates to slavery....
That's how it is though, people WANT to believe
Iphone cases are made from pulverized Chinese fetus skulls.
Google it! Google it!
Nobody smiles at those places. EVER!
Smiling is disruptive, disloyal, and unproductive.
It isn't slave labor, they got tea and a biscuit....
This is the problem with a global economy without any checks on labor standards.
I refuse to buy any apple products because of shit like this. Is Apple obligated to make products in the US, absolutely not. But shouldn't they have the decently to help the nation that has helped them to grow into a Tech giant. That is why I will keep buying Motorola phones.
peewee's new phone
Isthat a mother fuckin startac?!
I saw that shit on X-files!!!!
Why would anyone want to start a union in the workers paradise of China ???
I can assure you the parts inside Motorola phones and every other big tech company's products like HP, Samsung, Epson, Toshiba, JVC, Sony, Texas Instruments, Dell, etc... are made in the exact same factories as the Apple products.
Remember the good old days when products were made in Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea?
Loved my Startac. Best non smartphone I ever had.
There's nothing shocking here. 3rd world labor will always
beat out US workers. We demand decent wages and bennies,
they just want to survive.
More on Motorola...