Hypocritical Contrarian Liberal Atheism

ShooterMcGavin

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Explain to me how this logic works.

Person #1 and Person #2 are Atheists.

Person 1 has a habit of badmouthing Christianity, as Atheists do, and will do it frequently to their faces.

Person 2 has a habit of badmouthing Muslims (gee who could this guy be?) as well as Christians, because he believes that, as he should, all organized religion is corrupt and evil, with the exception of Buddhism.

Person 1 becomes angry with person 2, because he shouldn't have said so many offensive things about the Muslim people. And continues to defend the Muslim religion until the argument nearly becomes physical.

Here is a great point a buddy of mine made:

It's all politics. Muslim is liberal. Christianity is conservative. The actual value of the religion is meaningless, it's the political side that each falls on that matters. Regardless of the fact that Islam is just as, if not more, volatile towards other liberal pet projects like homosexuality than Christianity is, defense of it is still necessary to further the bullshit facade...

Personal opinion and belief is irrelevant. It's all about agenda. Politics without actual purpose.
The goal is to be the loudest, rather than correct.
What the hell happened after 9/11? When did we start this whole, "100% of Muslims are really nice people" bullshit? When did Islam become a race? When did saying that one is racist become a racist remark?

This country is fucking confusing.
 

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It's all politics. Muslim is liberal. Christianity is conservative. The actual value of the religion is meaningless, it's the political side that each falls on that matters. Regardless of the fact that Islam is just as, if not more, volatile towards other liberal pet projects like homosexuality than Christianity is, defense of it is still necessary to further the bullshit facade...

Personal opinion and belief is irrelevant. It's all about agenda. Politics without actual purpose.
The goal is to be the loudest, rather than correct.
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Explain to me how this logic works.

Person #1 and Person #2 are Atheists.

Person 1 has a habit of badmouthing Christianity, as Atheists do, and will do it frequently to their faces.

Person 2 has a habit of badmouthing Muslims (gee who could this guy be?) as well as Christians, because he believes that, as he should, all organized religion is corrupt and evil, with the exception of Buddhism.

Person 1 becomes angry with person 2, because he shouldn't have said so many offensive things about the Muslim people. And continues to defend the Muslim religion until the argument nearly becomes physical.

Here is a great point a buddy of mine made:



What the hell happened after 9/11? When did we start this whole, "100% of Muslims are really nice people" bullshit? When did Islam become a race? When did saying that one is racist become a racist remark?

This country is fucking confusing.
This is the way I look at. I'm an atheist who believes that all organized religion is bullshit and I don't believe in a high power. But I do accept the fact that organized religion has done some good.

I have never badmouthed Christianity to a Christian's face. In fact, the only time that I have ever brought up the fact that I was an atheist, is when they try to give me the spiel. Most atheists really do keep themselves. I mean I have never been handed a pamphlet while walking down street talking about the virtues of atheism. But I have gotten ones saying how Jesus Christ can save my soul.

When it comes to Islam, I truly believe that most Muslims are not terrorists and just want to live their life and pray to their god. I don't have a problem with them.

The ones I do have a problem with are the terrorists who kill in the name of their religion. I have a problem with the fundamentalists who adhere to the savage parts of the religion. The ones who want to kill homosexuals, cut off teenage girl's clits, marries and **** children, stones **** victims, etc. I want the United States of America to kill jihadists and silence the fundamentalists. But I think its going to a revolution inside Islam itself to prevent the fundamentalists from gaining control.

The problem is Shooter is you don't know how to differentiate between the two.
 

ShooterMcGavin

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When it comes to Islam, I truly believe that most Muslims are not terrorists and just want to live their life and pray to their god. I don't have a problem with them.

The ones I do have a problem with are the terrorists who kill in the name of their religion. I have a problem with the fundamentalists who adhere to the savage parts of the religion. The ones who want to kill homosexuals, cut off teenage girl's clits, marries and **** children, stones **** victims, etc. I want the United States of America to kill jihadists and silence the fundamentalists. But I think its going to a revolution inside Islam itself to prevent the fundamentalists from gaining control.

The problem is Shooter is you don't know how to differentiate between the two.
Actually I do. I just know that the latter part of your argument is the majority of them. I hate those people. I have no problem saying that.

That peaceful shit you're referring to is Sufism. Those Muslims are fine. Those Muslims are the ones whose mosques get bombed by the "real" Muslims.
 

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Muslim is liberal.
This is probably the most untrue thing I've seen on the internet. I get what you're friend was saying, but OH, BOY is Islam the furthest thing from Liberal ever.
 

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Actually I do. I just know that the latter part of your argument is the majority of them. I hate those people. I have no problem saying that.

That peaceful shit you're referring to is Sufism. Those Muslims are fine. Those Muslims are the ones whose mosques get bombed by the "real" Muslims.
I don't have problem with you saying that you hate that part of the Muslim community. Hell I say it. Just not all the time.
 

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This is probably the most untrue thing I've seen on the internet. I get what you're friend was saying, but OH, BOY is Islam the furthest thing from Liberal ever.
I think what he means is that liberals have attached themselves to the idea or cause of "Islam". Conservatives are attached to the idea of "Christianity".
 

ShooterMcGavin

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I think what he means is that liberals have attached themselves to the idea or cause of "Islam". Conservatives are attached to the idea of "Christianity".
Yup. That's exactly what he means. It's hip to like the people who took out a portion of New Yorks population. Cunts.
 

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I think what he means is that liberals have attached themselves to the idea or cause of "Islam". Conservatives are attached to the idea of "Christianity".
Yup. That's exactly what he means. It's hip to like the people who took out a portion of New Yorks population. Cunts.
Yeah, I know what he meant. I was talking about the people who perceive Islam as somehow aligning with the American Left. The only thing they align about is that they both hate America.
 

Norm Stansfield

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Explain to me how this logic works.

Person #1 and Person #2 are Atheists.

Person 1 has a habit of badmouthing Christianity, as Atheists do, and will do it frequently to their faces.

Person 2 has a habit of badmouthing Muslims (gee who could this guy be?) as well as Christians, because he believes that, as he should, all organized religion is corrupt and evil, with the exception of Buddhism.
It all depends on what each of these people is saying about both Christians and Muslims. It's one thing to have a philosophical disagreement with someone's religion, and another to automatically assume he's a terrorist because of it.

If Person #2 is a racist for instance, wants the Muslim religion banned, or thinks that all Muslims are the enemy, that's very different from what Liberals are saying about Christianity: that it's a stupid belief system and it should be kept out of government.
 

ShooterMcGavin

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If Person #2 is a racist for instance, wants the Muslim religion banned, or thinks that all Muslims are the enemy, that's very different from what Liberals are saying about Christianity: that it's a stupid belief system and it should be kept out of government.
It's not a fucking race.

Remember this guy?



The guy responsible for getting those South Park episodes removed is some young white jizzbucket.

I don't think Muslims are the enemy. I just think that they believe anyone who aligns with the Western world is an enemy.

How is it intolerant or racist to say that a group is intolerant and racist?
 

Norm Stansfield

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I don't think Muslims are the enemy. I just think that they believe anyone who aligns with the Western world is an enemy.
That's the same thing. And it's not true. There are plenty of Muslims who don't think the West is the enemy.
How is it intolerant or racist to say that a group is intolerant and racist?
It's not racist. It's just not true.
 

ShooterMcGavin

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It's not racist. It's just not true.
Show me a Synagogue or Buddhist Monastery in the middle of Mecca and I'll believe you.

There are plenty of Muslims who don't think the West is the enemy.
Plenty. Sure. Plenty is another word for, "A few," or, "some of them."
 

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Remember this guy?



The guy responsible for getting those South Park episodes removed is some young white jizzbucket.
It's funny how some of the loudest, most annoying Muslims are white, American converts. This is kind of off-topic but there's an awesome episode of Law & Order involving a white Muslim convert charged with the murder of a female professor who specializes in gender studies. It turns out that he only converted because he hated and was terrified of women. He turned to fundamentalist Islam because fundamentalist Islam grants man dominance over woman. Islam allowed him to turn his prejudice into an emotional shield of sorts. I think that's what most religiously-motivated prejudice is: A justification and reinforcement of pre-existing hatreds. That goes back to a point I made a while ago about the Muslim hatred for Israel being racial rather than religious.
 

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Show me a Synagogue or Buddhist Monastery in the middle of Mecca and I'll believe you.
There used to many synagogues in places like Iraq, Syria, Morocco, etc. Most of them got destroyed when the Arabs kicked all the Jews out in 48. It's funny how the global meme is about the Palestinian refugees but nobody remembers how millions of Jews were kicked out of Arab countries for no reason.

It's funny how some of the loudest, most annoying Muslims are white, American converts.
Just the ones that speak English.

That goes back to a point I made a while ago about the Muslims hatred for Israel being racial rather than religious.
Give yourself a bell. In fact, make it two.
 

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Actually, the exchange rate is 3 cock tugs for every 2 bells.
 

ShooterMcGavin

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I like NeonTaster. It's reassuring to have someone who actually has to deal with this shit every day give his take. Or really, it's reassuring to know I can be right about it. :p