Ideas to make the XM format better

UsedLadBag

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Can the XM format be changed to allow O&A to do a truely uncensored show? Can a format be obtained that makes O&A and R&F happy and covers their asses from the lawyers perspective? Post your ideas here.

Here's my idea:
Change Channel 202 into a "free subscription channel": when someone subscribes to XM the default status of the 202 channel is "blocked".

It's free to unblock it, but noone would be listening if they didn't ask for it. To unblock the station: XM coorperate lawyers prepare a consent statement that requires people to agree (verbally or online written, whatever the fuckhead lawyers require). The consent covers that they are aware that this station is uncensored and that sexual and racial humor are an element to the show and that they will not protest what they are hearing. It's like agreeing to watch HBO, but people don't have to pay more to get it.

This idea is simple, effective, and all the technology (channel blocking) is already in effect.

By itself this would limit the exposure of new people to O&A and R&F, I know how to address this problem. On one of the XL comedy channels you rebroadcast like 1 hour of O&A and R&F and you advertise that the full uncensored O&A and R&F can be heard on 202. So people looking for funny will find O&A and R&F. Another possible example: XM could carry the free FM O&A show (or a portion) on the comedy station in the morning and then one hour of R&F "best of" in the afternoon/evening drive slot. There are a lot of ways to do this. Ultimately, O&A and R&F lite still gets exposure, but no one gets the full blown show without actively consenting to listening.

If that doesn't totally cover O&A asses from any special interest group and allow them to do a completely uncensored show, then nothing will and we really are fucking doomed.

OK feel free to shit on the idea now.
 

JSJarvis

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It isn't a bad idea at all. Sirius does exactly this with the Playboy channel, giving an easy "opt-in" option when you log into your account on their website.
 

Earl's D

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No way the boys let 202 be pre-blocked to new Xm subs. They fought hard enough to get off premium.
 

PMB917

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Hmm...I thought the point was to let people who woundent normally listen maby come across the show and become fans..
 

WonkaVision

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Bad idea...I NEVER would have heard o&A if they didn't come to XM for free....gotta have a way to expand their audience.
 

UsedLadBag

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Bad idea...I NEVER would have heard o&A if they didn't come to XM for free....gotta have a way to expand their audience.
Didn't read huh?

On one of the XL comedy channels you rebroadcast like 1 hour of O&A and R&F and you advertise that the full uncensored O&A and R&F can be heard on 202. So people looking for funny will find O&A and R&F. Another possible example: XM could carry the free FM O&A show (or a portion) on the comedy station in the morning and then one hour of R&F "best of" in the afternoon/evening drive slot. There are a lot of ways to do this. Ultimately, O&A and R&F lite still gets exposure.
 

FMDoug

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Turning the station into an opt in option is terrible. People scan XM like they do regular radio. They hear something they like and then they keep on listening. If you scanned XM and it just went passed 202 then O/A lose alot of new listeners.

My suggestion would be drilling a warning into our heads. Twice an hour during commercials XM plays a spot that says this is an uncensored channel that has cursing, sex, etc and they can be as descriptive as they want so people know what they are getting into. Plus they should have a warning when you first get XM in the subscription package that certain channels are uncensored. This way it limits XM and O/A's liability a little and puts the responsibility on the people.

Or if O/A do a bit that was so so so XXX they warn the audience before they get into it. I know that really brings down the show, but it will save some asses.

But in reality - how often are O/A censored? It doesn't happen very often. It's not like they have people in studio having sex everyday. So these extra protections might help when it does happen.
 
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I feel like this is sooo who cares at this point. I don't even get the impression that they really even want to be on XM anymore, and honestly, the FM show is about 20 times funnier anyway.
 

UsedLadBag

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Turning the station into an opt in option is terrible. People scan XM like they do regular radio. They hear something they like and then they keep on listening. If you scanned XM and it just went passed 202 then O/A lose alot of new listeners.

My suggestion would be drilling a warning into our heads. Twice an hour during commercials XM plays a spot that says this is an uncensored channel that has cursing, sex, etc and they can be as descriptive as they want so people know what they are getting into. Plus they should have a warning when you first get XM in the subscription package that certain channels are uncensored. This way it limits XM and O/A's liability a little and puts the responsibility on the people.

Or if O/A do a bit that was so so so XXX they warn the audience before they get into it. I know that really brings down the show, but it will save some asses.

But in reality - how often are O/A censored? It doesn't happen very often. It's not like they have people in studio having sex everyday. So these extra protections might help when it does happen.
warnings during the show won't work. It's not just about sexual humor long bit formats, it's also about off the cuff humor. Heard any racial humor recently? Nope. Want to guess why? There are special interest groups that periodically monitor the show and if they find something they can go after then they inform the appropriate attack group.

You don't think censorship is occurring? Maybe not active, i.e. an on air "dump" -but there is a lot of self-consorship occurring where O&A stop make a comment like "there's something we can't go into". Listen to replays from several years ago and compare them to current shows. Big fuck difference. Shit, just listen to what O&A are saying about censorship almost every fucking day. They are getting fucked by the lawyers constantly and are being more and more restricted every day in what they can say and what they can't say within or not the context of humor.

I still think my idea exposes new listeners to O&A while freeing them from the lawyers restrictions. If a SIG monitors the show to register a complaint, XM can fall back on their consent to hear racial humor. It's an additional level of proactive protection. In other words, no one can make the arguement that they stumbled across something that their children might hear and they don't agree to.
 

blueribbie

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They absolutely do want to continue on XM and they want their freedom back. The brass at XM don't want any negative press ahead of the merger decision- that's why the lawyers are being so cunty. Once the merger decision is made the boys will be able to deal with this.

On a side note, an XM format change I would like to see is to cut out the fucking awful commercials and promos on the replays. It really kills the flow of the show and I end up going to another channel.
 

WonkaVision

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Didn't read huh?

On one of the XL comedy channels you rebroadcast like 1 hour of O&A and R&F and you advertise that the full uncensored O&A and R&F can be heard on 202. So people looking for funny will find O&A and R&F. Another possible example: XM could carry the free FM O&A show (or a portion) on the comedy station in the morning and then one hour of R&F "best of" in the afternoon/evening drive slot. There are a lot of ways to do this. Ultimately, O&A and R&F lite still gets exposure.

Sorry Wayne Wordy, too many words to read. Just read the first couple of sentences. My attention span is too short for these looong post.
 

watsonnostaw

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the CBS radio deal will end by mid-2008
 

habeasrob

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Bad idea...I NEVER would have heard o&A if they didn't come to XM for free....gotta have a way to expand their audience.
Your missing the part about replays on other channels. filtered versions could air on the comedy stations, in slots on 152 or 165 or on channel 2 like they do with dylan, petty et al.

Frankly, bits from the show should already be in heavy rotation on the comedy stations.
 

habeasrob

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But in reality - how often are O/A censored? It doesn't happen very often. It's not like they have people in studio having sex everyday. So these extra protections might help when it does happen.
No offense but thats the stupidest staement I have heard all day, perhaps all week. The censorship is constant and ongoing. Every word they say must pass through their own internal filters based upon what they think lawyers will say.
 

Mags

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#16
Good for hardcore fans but bad for the "Show".
 

LilJimmiesMule

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#17
being a hardcore fan here, I don't really have any complaints, never have probably never will. I understand the issues with the merger and special interest groups considering things are still "hot" right now, but whatever I'm still entertained daily.

As for the opt in plan...it's just as easy for these sensitive babies to opt out, and go screw. Thats why XM has take 5 and the canadian comedy channel.
 

tripwire519

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life is already too complicated. don't overcomplicate a radio show.

they have done enough harm to the quality of the show by effin up the flow 3 hours in.


go back to xm only the way it was. or leave it the fuck alone.
 

jstew8

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The FM side of the show is getting better and better. The callers are funny and on topic (for the most part) and the guests have been good. I would like to see that come over to the XM side . I also would like them to stop talking about Sh*t . 2 girls 1 cup. Doodie hat ect. Their better than that.
 

boomer

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I'm soooooo confused...

#1 - How the fuck do you censor and uncensored channel? Unless of course you’re not giving me what you’re advertising and I'm paying for.

#2 - How come O&A need to be censored for the merger to go through yet Howard doesn't on Sirus? The girls having sex bit is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. No problem having THE SAME TWO GIRLS do on his show a few weeks prior what they weren't allowed to do on O&A.

#3 – Why am I now paying for a neutered radio show when I can hear it for free on FM?

#4 – Are the XM Brass that fucking stupid? Or is it us?
 

masterem243

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I feel like this is sooo who cares at this point. I don't even get the impression that they really even want to be on XM anymore, and honestly, the FM show is about 20 times funnier anyway.
What gives you that impression? Line of the Day usually comes from the XM side, plus they always said that they couldn't do FM exclusively ever again. May was different, knowing it was only suspension, and they'd be back on XM.
 

masterem243

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I'm soooooo confused...

#1 - How the fuck do you censor and uncensored channel? Unless of course you’re not giving me what you’re advertising and I'm paying for.

#2 - How come O&A need to be censored for the merger to go through yet Howard doesn't on Sirus? The girls having sex bit is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. No problem having THE SAME TWO GIRLS do on his show a few weeks prior what they weren't allowed to do on O&A.

#3 – Why am I now paying for a neutered radio show when I can hear it for free on FM?

#4 – Are the XM Brass that fucking stupid? Or is it us?
#1- Why not ask E-lo? He's on AIM through afternoons.
#2- It's to look polished and clean-cut for the suits, so they aren't let go during the consolidation part of the merger. I can only guess that Howard's going through the same thing.
#3- It's far from neutered. Could you play 8-track porn on Krock? Probably not.
#4- Never heard of XM Brass. It probably sucks though.
 

STARTSOMETHING

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I became a fan of oanda from passing by the channel a few years ago. if o and a weren't free i would have never gave them a try.

And don't call me a bad fan. I bet the first time you heard them was on fm which was free!