If the opening of a strip club warrants a news story, your city may be a bit too PC

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New ‘adult cabaret' owner wants to get past strip-club taboo

By CASEY MCNERTHNEY, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF


Pandora's Adult Cabaret, the North Seattle club at the site of the former Seven Seas Chinese restaurant, opened Tuesday afternoon – though with only a neon "open" sign it was a little tough to tell.
"I've drove by four or five times," said one man, before paying a $10 cover and $5 one-drink minimum.
Owner Joe Walker said city officials have been "courteous and professional" and that the space, which converted from the restaurant in six weeks, meets building codes and the ordinance keeping patrons six feet from dancers.
The city issued a permit April 25, which raised concerns of neighbors who were upset a neighborhood impact study wasn't required and they weren't notified before the permit was issued. Some complained that Walker and others employees worked at Rick's, the former Lake City strip club seized as part of the racketeering prosecution of Frank Colacurcio Sr., his son Frank Jr. and their associates. John Gilbert Conte, the Colacurcio Sr. associate who was sentenced to probation following a guilty plea to racketeering charges, said Tuesday he was not associated with Pandora's.
"I'm not Frank," Walker said Tuesday. "I'm just another employee."
Many of the employees who converted the restaurant to Pandora's hadn't worked in nearly a year, and some of the dancers who had been out of state returned home because of the club's opening, Walker said.
"A lot of people suffered because of the bad behavior of a few people," he said. "They became millionaires while the other employees lost jobs, lost homes and couldn't find work in the great recession."
Some of the dozen or so dancers working Tuesday had previously worked at Rick's and Seattle Déjà Vu locations. What had been the Seven Seas bar and pool room is now an area for individual dances. The club has stripper poles on north and south stages, with a red-and-black Pandora's logo accented by LED lights. The dancers are considered individual contractors and can set their own prices.
What was the main entrance of the Seven Seas has been removed, now part of the gray exterior, and patrons enter through a side door on the building's south side. The inside is black with almost exclusively red lights. Early Tuesday evening, about a dozen men and a few women were watching the dancers – Bella, Summer, Serenity and several others.
Walker said the main cabaret sign could be installed as early as later this week, and cosmetic building work will continue.
Last month, the Wedgwood Community Council, Maple Leaf Community Council and the Stratford at Maple Leaf, the nearby assisted living facility, wrote to the city's Department of Planning and Development saying the adult cabaret permit issued for the site was in error.
Seattle Municipal Code requires that new adult cabarets be located 800 feet or more from specified locations where children congregate: schools, child care centers, public parks and open spaces, and community centers. The councils said (PDF) the site was located within 600 feet of a state-licensed at-home daycare, that DPD was given inaccurate information before issuing the permit, and that public notification should have happened before the permit was issued.
DPD Director Diane Sugimura responded this month, saying a child-care center must have a DPD permit to be legally established, and that a strict reading of the zoning code shows public notice was not required.
"The in-home day care is appropriately classified as 'single family,' as the use is legally established as a single family residence, which appears to include an accessory in-home day care operated as a home occupation," she wrote. "The onus is always on the applicant to provide DPD with accurate information, and in this case, we do not believe an error has been made."
Wedgwood Community Council members say it's unclear what steps they'll take next.
Walker said his business is an adult cabaret, not a strip club, and that he wants to be a good neighbor.
"I won't tolerate drugs or prostitution," he said. "Why would I let one person ruin all this?"
If this were any other major city in the U.S., Walker said, Tuesday would just have been another gentlemen's club opening.
"But in Seattle it's, 'Oh my God, it's a strip club,'" he said.
Late last month, the Rick's property about a mile and a half from Pandora's was sold in an auction for $2.35 million. The bidder wasn't identified, but is said to have been purchased by the company that owns Déjà Vu. The company has not commented.
No use permits are required from the Department of Planning and Development to make Rick's a strip club because the previous use permit doesn't expire, department spokesman Bryan Stevens said earlier this year.
It's possible the new owner might need a construction permit of some sort, he said, but that wouldn't require a neighborhood review, just that the new owner meet technical codes.
Talents West, part of the old Rick's business, was sold for $600,000, but the winning bidder did not say what he intends to do with the property. The bidder who lost out intended to tear the property down and build apartments.
Walker, who worked for Talents West for 27 years, noted that for years in Seattle, whenever a Talents West dancer would be mentioned in the newspapers, there would be a few paragraphs about the woman and loads of background of the Colacurcios. He repeated that his adult cabaret is a different business, giving people who lost their economic footing another chance.
"Can't we put the Colacurcio empire to rest?" he said.


Seattle stinks.
 

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SeattLOL. Still, I'd have moved out there in a heartbeat if I had gotten the job I was after.
 

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Seattle is great for most things. But the fucking liberals...
 

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I hear ya, to be fair I was looking to move closer to Tacoma, if that matters at all. I dunno, I only spent 4 days there. But I did absolutely love it.
 

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Old hags have protested nearly every strip club opening, ever. I've known club owners and managers who tried (some cases successfully, some not) opening new clubs, and it goes with the territory.

I don't think it's a puritanical thing or a PC thing. It's just a white thing. If they could protest minorities moving into nearby houses, they would.
 

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It's only newsworthy if they have coupons for the club after the article.
 

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Seattle is great for most things. But the fucking liberals...
It's not Seattle's fault. I blame the invaders from California who came in their droves and infected a great town with the disease of liberal cuntitis.
 

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Seattle stinks.

Back in college I lived 3 blocks from a row of strip clubs and even worked one as a doorman for a few months. At the time it was fun as hell, but no way i want that bullshit in my neighborhood now killing property values where I own a home. Strippers are all addicts with good cashflow. This attracts dealers like flies to horseshit, which in turn attracts other scumbag addicts to the area.

Best thing Giuliani ever did was create new zoning laws to keep the nonsense out of residential areas.

And with this part I kinda understand why people might be pissed..

Seattle Municipal Code requires that new adult cabarets be located 800 feet or more from specified locations where children congregate: schools, child care centers, public parks and open spaces, and community centers. The councils said (PDF) the site was located within 600 feet of a state-licensed at-home daycare, that DPD was given inaccurate information before issuing the permit, and that public notification should have happened before the permit was issued.
 

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Back in college I lived 3 blocks from a row of strip clubs and even worked one as a doorman for a few months. At the time it was fun as hell, but no way i want that bullshit in my neighborhood now killing property values where I own a home. Strippers are all addicts with good cashflow. This attracts dealers like flies to horseshit, which in turn attracts other scumbag addicts to the area.

Best thing Giuliani ever did was create new zoning laws to keep the nonsense out of residential areas.

And with this part I kinda understand why people might be pissed..
That boy ain't lyin'.

When I lived out in San Diego there was a pretty cool dive bar across the street from my apartment in a neighborhood that was only sorta scary. I used to hit the place every so often for cheap beer and tacos. One day it closed down, and it re-opened about a month later as a titty bar... a busted ass titty bar. Hey-zeus Christ! It didn't take long. It was like the neighborhood went off a cliff. Just like Larz said... all of the strippers were total skag freaks and the drug dealers came running like it was K-Mart and they lit up the blue light. The CHUDs came crawling up out of the sewers soon thereafter too.

Thank Hey-zeus I was on a month to month lease... I vamoosed out of that place as fast as I could with at least 5 of my neighbors hot on my heels.

It's amazing how fast a sump-of-failure strip club will trash a neighborhood.
 

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That boy ain't lyin'.

When I lived out in San Diego there was a pretty cool dive bar across the street from my apartment in a neighborhood that was only sorta scary. I used to hit the place every so often for cheap beer and tacos. One day it closed down, and it re-opened about a month later as a titty bar... a busted ass titty bar. Hey-zeus Christ! It didn't take long. It was like the neighborhood went off a cliff. Just like Larz said... all of the strippers were total skag freaks and the drug dealers came running like it was K-Mart and they lit up the blue light. The CHUDs came crawling up out of the sewers soon thereafter too.

Thank Hey-zeus I was on a month to month lease... I vamoosed out of that place as fast as I could with at least 5 of my neighbors hot on my heels.

It's amazing how fast a sump-of-failure strip club will trash a neighborhood.
Even "classy" strip clubs don't do any good for property values.

I don't care how open-minded you are: most of the people who might buy your house from you won't be. And those who are know that the market for your house near a strip club won't be, too. Which means your house's value is now shit.

Hershey, PA, apparently didn't (doesn't?) have any ordinances regulating strip clubs, so when a bar decided to become a strip club last year, there was nothing the town could do about it. They eventually came to an agreement with the owner and it went back to being a bar, but in the end I think it ended up costing the town a bit.

Given that Hershey these days is a mostly yuppie lawyer/doctor haven, fighting for those property values made a hell of a lot of sense.
 

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I live in a small town in VA and a few yrs ago someone tried to open an porn shop across from an elem school. It lasted about two weeks until protesters with cams started video taping customers.
 

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I live in a small town in VA and a few yrs ago someone tried to open an porn shop across from an elem school. It lasted about two weeks until protesters with cams started video taping customers.
The locals tried to do that when a porn store opened right off of I-81, near Chambersburg. Unfortunately for them, about 90% of the customers were truckers on the interstate who just didn't give a fuck about their bosses finding out they were buying porn.