Justice Dept. Says Citizens Have the Right to Record Police

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Hopefully puts the issue to bed countrywide once and for all.

The Right to Record
Published: May 20, 2012

The Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department took an important stand last week, declaring that citizens have a First Amendment right to videotape the actions of police officers in public places and that seizure or destruction of such recordings violates constitutional rights.

The Justice Department made the statement in a federal lawsuit brought against the Baltimore Police Department by Christopher Sharp, who used his cellphone to take video of the police arresting and beating a friend at Pimlico on the day of the 2010 Preakness. The officers took Mr. Sharp’s cellphone while he was recording and wiped the phone clean of all videos before returning it to him.

The Courts of Appeals for the First and Seventh Circuits have wisely found that the Constitution protects the right to videotape police officers while they perform official duties. The video taken by another witness of the beating at Pimlico shows that the right to record is crucial to holding police accountable for their actions.

Mr. Sharp sued for damages to his personal property and for injunctive relief in the form of a clear policy on videotaping consistent with the Constitution and also training for the police. The judge hearing the case arranged a settlement conference for May 30, though the case is far from being settled.

Last November, the Police Department issued an order paying lip service to the right of citizens to make “video recording of police activity.” But the day after that order became public, as The Baltimore Sun reported, police officers were caught on video threatening to arrest for loitering a man who was recording them as they surrounded and held someone on the ground.

It is essential that the Justice Department and federal courts make clear that police departments will be held liable for violating this constitutionally protected right.
 

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I don't trust cops who don't consent to being recorded on video or audio.
 

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Unpossible. Alex Jones said this would never happen.
 

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I don't trust cops who don't consent to being recorded on video or audio.
With this, there's no consent needed. But if they're not acting like dicks, there's nothing to worry about. Likewise, if someone's acting like a dick to a cop and they handle the situation appropriately, it works that way too.
 

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Cops already knew this. It won't change a thing. The only thing that will cause a change is to start firing cops that violate peoples rights. I'm sure we will still hear of cops arresting people for taping them and giving some BS charge like interfering with official government business.
 

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Every time I have an interaction with a cop I hit a record button on my phone. I respect most police, but there are some assholes out there and I just want to protect myself. It may not be admissible, but I do it anyway.
 

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Cops already knew this. It won't change a thing. The only thing that will cause a change is to start firing cops that violate peoples rights. I'm sure we will still hear of cops arresting people for taping them and giving some BS charge like interfering with official government business.
It's the intimidation factor. I bet in the future all cops will have some kind of video recording device on their person, like a dash cam. I'm sure police unions will be THRILLED at that idea...
 

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Cops already knew this. It won't change a thing. The only thing that will cause a change is to start firing cops that violate peoples rights. I'm sure we will still hear of cops arresting people for taping them and giving some BS charge like interfering with official government business.
If it doesn't follow the Alex Jones script...

"It won't change a thing."

Plug your ears and go la la la la la...
 

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I have never had a problem with citizens taping me. I do however have a problem if they tape me, but only post the last 30 seconds of a 10 minute long situation that ends up with me having to go hands on and the perp gets roughed up.

The LA riots were based on a videotape where the news didn't run the first part of the tape showing Rodney King attacking two officers, while high on drugs. Just the cops collecting a stupid tax on a moron that got high and decided to go on a high speed chase and then decided to attack the arresting officers.
 

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If it doesn't follow the Alex Jones script...

It won't change a thing.

Plug your ears and go la la la la la...
Are you saying cops thought it was illegal to tape them in public? Then why have they always given a BS charge instead of charging people for taping them? They have always known it was legal to tape cops and illegal to violate your rights but they still do it and they will still do it until they start seeing other cops losing their jobs.
 

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The LA riots were based on a videotape where the news didn't run the first part of the tape showing Rodney King attacking two officers, while high on drugs. Just the cops collecting a stupid tax on a moron that got high and decided to go on a high speed chase and then decided to attack the arresting officers.
I will forever maintain that Rodney Kind deserved what he got. Maybe there were too many officers involved, but the actions those officers took were justified. Then again, that was the world before the overwhelming acceptance of tasers.
 

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It's the intimidation factor. I bet in the future all cops will have some kind of video recording device on their person, like a dash cam. I'm sure police unions will be THRILLED at that idea...
I wecome POV camera technology whenever the state decides to write the check for it. I think it would be a great way for me to protect myself, because perps are smart enough to know the dash cam has a narrow field of view. Take a few steps from either side of the camera view, no video evidence. One of the latest crazy rants I've listened to are Trayvon Martin supporters saying "no video to back up Zimmerman - he's guilty then". Yes, it's completely retarded. But I'm convinced people are not getting smarter.
 

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Are you saying cops thought it was illegal to tape them in public? Then why have they always given a BS charge instead of charging people for taping them? They have always known it was legal to tape cops and illegal to violate your rights but they still do it and they will still do it until they start seeing other cops losing their jobs.
And when just that happens, won't you be shocked and surprised? Just like you are whenever reality refuses to follow the infowars script.
 

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And when just that happens, won't you be shocked and surprised? Just like you are whenever reality refuses to follow the infowars script.
You're saying cops will now be fired for violating 1st amendment rights? Maybe I should go to Denver and test your little theory.
 

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Are you saying cops thought it was illegal to tape them in public? Then why have they always given a BS charge instead of charging people for taping them? They have always known it was legal to tape cops and illegal to violate your rights but they still do it and they will still do it until they start seeing other cops losing their jobs.
Kirk, you have a right to tape me. You however do not have a right to get to close to me while I'm conducting an investigation. If I ask you to please not stand behind me or to go across the street because I can only deal with so many retards at one time, do it. Because if you get to close to my sidearm or walk up behind me after being told to back off, you are going to have a very very bad fucking day. It's because of cunts like you, the ones that edit video's or don't show the entire video, that have caused officer's to not like being taped.
 

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I wecome POV camera technology whenever the state decides to write the check for it. I think it would be a great way for me to protect myself, because perps are smart enough to know the dash cam has a narrow field of view. Take a few steps from either side of the camera view, no video evidence. One of the latest crazy rants I've listened to are Trayvon Martin supporters saying "no video to back up Zimmerman - he's guilty then". Yes, it's completely retarded. But I'm convinced people are not getting smarter.
I'd like to think that most cops (the reasonable people, what I'd like to think is the majority) would feel the same, knowing that they'd be protected in a "he said/she said, someone gets beaten or shot" situation.
 

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It's because of cunts like you, the ones that edit video's or don't show the entire video, that have caused officer's to not like being taped.
No its because there are some cops that are assholes and they are looking to cause problems. You will always have that 10% that are like that but when you don't weed out that 10% by firing them, it starts to grow.
 

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No its because there are some cops that are assholes and they are looking to cause problems. You will always have that 10% that are like that but when you don't weed out that 10% by firing them, it starts to grow.
99% of Occupy fleabaggers are assholes and they are looking to cause problems.

(-Please try and deny that so we can all laugh at you.)

So you see the problem the 90% of good cops are dealing with when faced with 99% asshole fleabaggers.
 

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99% of Occupy fleabaggers are assholes and they are looking to cause problems.

(-Please try and deny that so we can all laugh at you.)

So you see the problem the 90% of good cops are dealing with when faced with 99% asshole fleabaggers.
I would say 80% of Occupy are just being trendy hipsters, 5% want to cause problems, 5% are homeless, and another 5% are just checking it out, and 5% get whats really going on. If 99% were looking to cause problems we would have seen some fun TV but for the most part it was just a bunch of commie trendies.
 

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I would say 85% of Occupy are just being trendy hipsters
Assholes.

5% want to cause problems
Assholes.

5% are homeless
Assholes

and another 5% are just checking it out.
Tourists.

If 99% were looking to cause problems we would have seen some fun TV but for the most part it was just a bunch of commie trendies.
Exactly... a bunch of assholes. So let's call it 90% good cops dealing with 95% assholes.
 

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I'm willing to bet most of these "asshole cops" didn't start out that way. Constantly dealing with young persons, occupiers and retards like Kirk turned them that way.
 

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We have had a few incidents here in NH where people tried to record police stops and the cops went apeshit. Took the cameras and charged the citizens with crimes.
I think there will be some lawsuits.

Found an article about it.
 

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I'm willing to bet most of these "asshole cops" didn't start out that way. Constantly dealing with young persons, occupiers and retards like Kirk turned them that way.
Asshole commanders also have a habit of making asshole cops.