Kid pulls gun on school bus, hero's suspended for doing the right thing

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This is my old highschool. yay.
FORT MYERS, Fla. - A 16-year-old Cypress Lake High School student, who wrestled a loaded revolver away from a teen threatening to shoot, is being punished.
The student grappled the gun away from the 15-year-old suspect on the bus ride home Tuesday after witnesses say he aimed the weapon point blank at another student and threatened to shoot him.
The student, who Fox 4 has agreed not to identify because he fears for his safety, says there's "no doubt" he saved a life by disarming the gunman. And for that he was suspended for three days.
"I think he was really going to shoot him right then and there," the student said. "Not taking no pity."
The student says he wrestled the .22 caliber RG-14 Revolver away from the suspect, a football player, who witnesses say threatened to shoot a teammate because he had been arguing with his friend.
"No doubt," the student said, "he was going to shoot him point blank."

The teen we spoke to and authorities both confirm the Revolver was loaded. According to the arrest report the suspect, who Fox 4 is not naming because he is a minor, was "pointing the gun directly" at another student and "threatening to shoot him."

That's when the student we spoke with says he and two others tackled the teen and wrestled away the gun. The next day the school slapped him with a three day suspension.
"It's dumb," he said. "How they going to suspend me for doing the right thing?"
According to the referral, he was suspended for being part of an "incident" where a weapon was present and given an "emergency suspension."

"If they wouldn't of did what they had to do on that bus," the teen's mother said, "I think there would have been a lot of fatalities."

The mother agreed to talk with us in disguise. She can't understand why her son, and two other students who disarmed the gunman, were all suspended.
"Those kids had to fight for their lives," she said. "All the kids that was involved in this they should have a pat on their backs because they did the right thing to save someone from burying their child."

According to the mother, the school suspended her son because he refused to cooperate in the investigation. She says he was scared.

Fox 4 asked the Lee County School District about the suspension.
"We cannot discuss specifics involving students," said district spokesman Alberto Rodriguez in a statement. "Florida law allows the principal to suspend a student immediately pending a hearing."
On Thursday Fox 4 tried to get answers from Tracey Perkins, the principal of Cypress Lake High School.
"Were those students suspended?," asked Fox 4 reporter Matt Grant, before she drove off.
"Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves," the teen's mother said referring to the school's administration, adding that the suspended students "need their education."

The teen who wrestled the gun away can go back to school Monday, his mother said.

Despite the fact the suspect pointed a load gun at another student and threatened to shoot authorities charged him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon "without intent" to kill.
We asked the sheriff's office about that.
"The investigation is ongoing," said Sgt. David Valez in a statement. "The charges presented to [the suspect] are based on our findings at this time."
Authorities were unable to watch the school bus surveillance video because the cameras weren't working.
The 15-year-old suspect was arrested and charged with posession of a firearm on school property and assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill.
He was taken to the juvenile justice center.
Last month, a 14-year-old Mariner Middle School was arrested for bringing a .22 caliber gun and a Panther brand stungun to class.
Matt Grant
mgrant@fox4now.com
http://www.fox4now.com/news/local/194396721.html
 

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Fucking ridiculous... punishing kids who disarmed a possible shooter. They should be brought on stage in front of the entire town, given medals, and allowed their pick of up to three girls each from their school.

This is what people are telling potential shooters through these actions... "Now, we know it's not your fault you want to shoot someone, that's the fault of the firearm itself. And we will guarantee you, as seen by these signs, that no one else at these schools will possess a firearm capable of stopping you. Furthermore, anyone who physically prevents you from shooting another child will be suspended immediately, and if you succeed, the media will say your name and run your picture for months afterwards".
 

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The teen we spoke to and authorities both confirm the Revolver was loaded.
Nice way to make a gun sound scarier than it is by capitalizing it.

And maw sure sounds like a real road scholar.
 

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Fucking ridiculous... punishing kids who disarmed a possible shooter. They should be brought on stage in front of the entire town, given medals, and allowed their pick of up to three girls each from their school.

This is what people are telling potential shooters through these actions... "Now, we know it's not your fault you want to shoot someone, that's the fault of the firearm itself. And we will guarantee you, as seen by these signs, that no one else at these schools will possess a firearm capable of stopping you. Furthermore, anyone who physically prevents you from shooting another child will be suspended immediately, and if you succeed, the media will say your name and run your picture for months afterwards".
That's exactly what this school told this shooter should he ever get to come back and any other student who thought about shooting some. It's fucking sickening what these schools and politicians are doing. Even though fucking trained military/police and trained psychologists are telling them not to do this. I'd say it makes no sense but it does because they think they know better than everyone because they are in positions of power
 

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Nice way to make a gun sound scarier than it is by capitalizing it.

And maw sure sounds like a real road scholar.
Maw has more sense in her skull than the principal apparently
 

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Right. A socialist school system doing the same thing any socialist system will: producing arbitrary, nonsensical, counter-productive rules that turn people into defenseless, powerless sheep.

Let's all shake our heads in disapproval. Let's all blame it on the principal (as if he's the one who invented the notion of a "zero tolerance policy", or has a choice about following it to the letter). That will definitely result in a miracle, and create the first socialist system in history that works.
 

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Zero tolerance: Don't think, don't question, don't act. Remain docile, compliant, and impotent at all times. Those above you are the only ones qualified to do anything for you. Do not trust yourself with anything. You are incapable by virtue of your lack of appointed authority.

It's a tragedy that school shooters never go after the administrators. It's always teachers and fellow students.
 

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Let's all shake our heads in disapproval. Let's all blame it on the principal (as if he's the one who invented the notion of a "zero tolerance policy", or has a choice about following it to the letter).
I don't blame the principal. I blame school boards and the lawyers
that both sue everyone and that advise school boards to
make these shitty rules to avoid being sued by everyone.
 

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I don't blame the principal. I blame school boards and the lawyers
that both sue everyone and that advise school boards to
make these shitty rules to avoid being sued by everyone.
I still blame the principal. The kids did the right thing and, in all probability, saved lives. The school boards and lawyers have made shitty rules, but the principal doesn't have to enforce them. He always has the option of nutting up and using his fucking head. It is a possibility that he could get fired, but that's a risk he should take. If the choice is one's ethics vs. one's job, one should choose their ethics every time.
 

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I can't see them suspending him simply because he had an "incident" on the bus. There has to be more to it. An EMERGENCY suspension?

Could him and the other 2 kids have been more involved in what happened before the kid with the gun pulled it?
Could there have been some worry about retaliation in school the next day so they give it until the end of the week, plus the weekend, for things to cool down and there NOT be a shooting at school? Basically for the kids own safety?



I gpt this comment from one of the stories I looked up trying to find out more about this.
this is exactly why they were suspended… they deprived the school system and the liberals more “ammo” in their bid to ban all firearms…
and
“Liberals love shootings and dead kids. It helps them push their political agenda forward.”
I understand the thinking but it's gotta be beyond a political reason. A zero tolerance thing I can see....I disagree with it, but I can see it happening, which is fucking stupid if this case is exactly as it looks here.


And if you didn't read this far I am not agreeing with the school off the bat. There's something missing. Unfortunately, without the camera, you have half the bus who are friends with the arrested kid, half the bus that are friends with the suspended kids, and most of those kids probably didn't really see anything in the first place.
 

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A zero tolerance policy sounds good, and is easier for those in charge then saying "We will make a proper judgement call on a case by case basis".

Hell, lets just get rid of the entire justice system if Zero Tolerance works so well.

Bring on Judge Dredd!
 

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A zero tolerance policy sounds good, and is easier for those in charge then saying "We will make a proper judgement call on a case by case basis".

Hell, lets just get rid of the entire justice system if Zero Tolerance works so well.

Bring on Judge Dredd!
 

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I can't see them suspending him simply because he had an "incident" on the bus. There has to be more to it. An EMERGENCY suspension?

Could him and the other 2 kids have been more involved in what happened before the kid with the gun pulled it?
Could there have been some worry about retaliation in school the next day so they give it until the end of the week, plus the weekend, for things to cool down and there NOT be a shooting at school? Basically for the kids own safety?



I gpt this comment from one of the stories I looked up trying to find out more about this.

and


I understand the thinking but it's gotta be beyond a political reason. A zero tolerance thing I can see....I disagree with it, but I can see it happening, which is fucking stupid if this case is exactly as it looks here.


And if you didn't read this far I am not agreeing with the school off the bat. There's something missing. Unfortunately, without the camera, you have half the bus who are friends with the arrested kid, half the bus that are friends with the suspended kids, and most of those kids probably didn't really see anything in the first place.
Close. He was suspended for not cooperating with the investigation, not because he disarmed the kid. Two others also were, but the school is such a shit hole, none want to cooperate for fear of retaliation.
 

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You know we live in a corrupt society when heroes are punished.
 

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there's more to this than they are saying
 

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I can't see them suspending him simply because he had an "incident" on the bus. There has to be more to it. An EMERGENCY suspension?
You can't? Schools will suspend a kid for having a piece of paper in the shape of a gun, they will suspend a kid for having a pastry that is in a similar gun shape. I absolutely believe the progressive ran public school system is capable of over reacting.