Lance Armstrong won't fight doping Charges

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Oh well... He's only worth $125 million. None of it matters anymore.
 
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That answers that:
BC--APNewsAlert
Aug 23, 10:42 PMEDT



AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles, ban him from cycling for life.
 

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[h=2]Lance Armstong's Statement of August 23, 2012[/h] AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.
I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.
If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?
From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.
The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.
USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.
Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.
Also why is USADA funded by taxpayers? Fucking crooks.
 
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I know the guy beat cancer, and he's an "Inspiration", but I've never not thought the guy was a turd.

I find it pretty funny that ESPN is wording it "Lance gives up battle against..." Kind of an odd way to word it, sort of summoning the whole cancer thing.

Like 99% of the US, I don't give a shit about bike-riding or bike-riders, but wasn't Lance really really really adamant about not doing anything illegal?
Why don't all the athletes of the world just form a mega-super-union and just come out and say, "Yeah, we all do shit. What can you do, this is the way it's going to be. Keep buying tickets rubes."
 
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I know the guy beat cancer, and he's an "Inspiration", but I've never not thought the guy was a turd.

I find it pretty funny that ESPN is wording it "Lance gives up battle against..." Kind of an odd way to word it, sort of summoning the whole cancer thing.

Like 99% of the US, I don't give a shit about bike-riding or bike-riders, but wasn't Lance really really really adamant about not doing anything illegal?
Why don't all the athletes of the world just form a mega-super-union and just come out and say, "Yeah, we all do shit. What can you do, this is the way it's going to be. Keep buying tickets rubes."
 

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I know the guy beat cancer, and he's an "Inspiration", but I've never not thought the guy was a turd.

I find it pretty funny that ESPN is wording it "Lance gives up battle against..." Kind of an odd way to word it, sort of summoning the whole cancer thing.

Like 99% of the US, I don't give a shit about bike-riding or bike-riders, but wasn't Lance really really really adamant about not doing anything illegal?
Why don't all the athletes of the world just form a mega-super-union and just come out and say, "Yeah, we all do shit. What can you do, this is the way it's going to be. Keep buying tickets rubes."
I really don't give a shit he he cheated. What annoys me is how our tax money is being used to policing sports. They are sports, who gives a fuck if they cheat. It's not a matter of life or death, who cares.
 
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But if it wasn't going to finding sports cheats it'd go to something even worse, like a study to find out the effect of Viagra on cats age 10 and above's feces, when covered by brand 2's cat litter.
 

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Not surprised. Frankly, you didn't need to be Einstein to figure out what the was going on. I don't really think it diminishes his achievements, because he was only doing exactly what the rest of the field was doing. Marion Jones never tested positive, either: it's your teammates that get you in the end.
 

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I really don't give a shit he he cheated. What annoys me is how our tax money is being used to policing sports. They are sports, who gives a fuck if they cheat. It's not a matter of life or death, who cares.
But HOW WILL WE KNOW WHO THE FASTEST PEDDLER IS!?!?!?
 

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BC--APNewsAlert
Aug 23, 10:42 PMEDT

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles, ban him from cycling for life.
I haven't ridden a bike since i was 13-14. it will be tough, but he will be able to quit, I'm sure.
 

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If you're innocent you fight until the end. Ultimately, being able to look in the mirror and know what you did and accept it is the only thing that matters. But I wouldnt let someone throw it on me if not true.
 

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Why is there a debate on whether he's innocent or not? He's obviously not innocent. Everyone who was there says the same exact thing: he's not innocent.
Without a single positive test. What a witch hunt.
Must have something to do with there not being a test for EPO at the time.
 

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The only reason Armstrong's not fighting this is because, literally, he seems to be the only person involved in the case who says that he didn't dope. His own fucking teammates have given evidence against him, and not one of them has backed him up.
 

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The only reason Armstrong's not fighting this is because, literally, he seems to be the only person involved in the case who says that he didn't dope. His own fucking teammates have given evidence against him, and not one of them has backed him up.
plenty of his teammates have backed him up. The only ones that have come out against him are the ones that got caught cheating AFTER they left his team and then ratted him out. Fucking Floyd Landis is so broke that he's crashing on a friend of a friend's couch. He's one of the biggest guys screaming about Lance. Make you wonder what his motivations are.
 

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plenty of his teammates have backed him up. The only ones that have come out against him are the ones that got caught cheating AFTER they left his team and then ratted him out. Fucking Floyd Landis is so broke that he's crashing on a friend of a friend's couch. He's one of the biggest guys screaming about Lance. Make you wonder what his motivations are.
They haven't backed him up. At most, some have said that they saw no evidence of him doping, but plenty of his former teammates (12 of them) have given detailed evidence of what they saw with their own eyes.
 

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They haven't backed him up. At most, some have said that they saw no evidence of him doping, but plenty of his former teammates (12 of them) have given detailed evidence of what they saw with their own eyes.
12 out of how many teammates he's had? The big one is Hincapie. We'll see if they reveal anything about his testimony. The two highest profile ones that are speaking publicly about it Hamilton and Landis got popped on blood tests. If they were cheating right along with lance, how did they pop and he didn't?
 

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plenty of his teammates have backed him up. The only ones that have come out against him are the ones that got caught cheating AFTER they left his team and then ratted him out.
That's not true. George Hincapie and Frankie Andreu for instance were never caught doping. And yet, they testified, under oath, that they did EPO together with Armstrong, to help win several championships.
There are no dirty tests.
That's not true either. Armstrong's urine samples from the late nineties have been kept frozen, and tested once an EPO test was developed. The results were positive.
 

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Havent they also gone back and retested B samples for different substances after it became known riders were using them and Lance still came up clean? I think its disgusting that people like Landis got pinched and look to take down the greatest Tour rider ever just because they are pissy little bitches. Its sad that he is wiped from the books while never even failing a single test.
 

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12 out of how many teammates he's had? The big one is Hincapie. We'll see if they reveal anything about his testimony. The two highest profile ones that are speaking publicly about it Hamilton and Landis got popped on blood tests. If they were cheating right along with lance, how did they pop and he didn't?
Um, Armstrong did get busted. At the time, the team explained it away by saying that the reading was the result of a prescription that he'd been given, and that was originally accepted. It's now said that that explanation was false and that the team doctor falsified a backdated prescription. Others have given evidence in that regard.
 

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12 out of how many teammates he's had? The big one is Hincapie. We'll see if they reveal anything about his testimony. The two highest profile ones that are speaking publicly about it Hamilton and Landis got popped on blood tests. If they were cheating right along with lance, how did they pop and he didn't?
During Lance's championship run, no one was caught doing EPO, because there was no test developed. They got caught later, not when they did it with Armstrong.
 

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Havent they also gone back and retested B samples for different substances after it became known riders were using them and Lance still came up clean?
No, that's not true either. B samples did get retested once a test became available, and Armstrong's came up positive.