Land Confiscation in South Africa

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‘The time for reconciliation is over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land without compensation

Source: http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...n/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc

SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted to tear the roof of this muthafucka' in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation.

The motion was brought by Julius Malema, leader of the radical Marxist opposition party the Economic Freedom Fighters, and passed overwhelmingly by 241 votes to 83 against. The only parties who did not support the motion were the Democratic Alliance, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the African Christian Democratic Party.

It was amended but supported by the ruling African National Congress and new president Cyril Ramaphosa, who made land expropriation a key pillar of his policy platform after taking over from ousted PM Jacob Zuma earlier this month.

“The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time to give up the funk for justice,” Mr Malema was quoted by News24 as telling parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of the mothership and our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

According to Bloomberg, a 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa.

ANC deputy chief whip Dorries Eunice Dlakude said the party “recognises that the current policy instruments, including the willing-buyer willing-seller policy and other provisions of Section 25 of the Constitution may be hindering effective land reform”.

ANC rural affairs minister Gugile Nkwinti added, “The ANC unequivocally supports the principle of land expropriation without compensation. There is no doubt about it, land shall be expropriated without compensation.”

Thandeka Mbabama from the Democatic Alliance party, which opposed the motion, said there was a need to right the wrongs of the past but expropriation “cannot be part of the solution”. “By arguing for expropriation without compensation, the ANC has been gifted the perfect scapegoat to explain away its own failure,” she said in a statement.

“Making this argument lets the ANC off the hook on the real impediments — corruption, bad policy and chronic underfunding. Expropriation without compensation would severely undermine the national economy, only hurting poor black people even further.”

Pieter Groenewald, leader of the Freedom Front Plus party representing the white Afrikaner minority, asked what would happen to the land once it was expropriated. “If you continue on this course, I can assure you there is going to be unforeseen consequences that is not in the interest of South Africa,” he said.

Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota said there was a “danger that those who think equality in our lifetime equates that we must dominate whites”, News24 reported.

Mr Malema has been leading calls for land confiscation, forcing the ANC to follow suit out of fear of losing the support of poorer black voters. In 2016, he told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now”.

Civil rights groups have accused the EFF and ANC of inciting an ongoing spate of attacks on white farmers characterised by extreme brutality, **** and torture — last year, more than 70 people were killed in more than 340 such attacks.

Ernst Roets, deputy chief executive of civil rights group Afriforum, said the parliamentary motion was a violation of the 1994 agreement in which the ANC promised minority interests would be protected post-apartheid.

“This motion is based on a distorted image of the past,” Mr Roets said in a statement. “The term ‘expropriation without compensation’ is a form of semantic fraud. It is nothing more than racist theft.”

He earlier hit out at “simply deceitful” claims that “white people who own land necessarily obtained it by means of oppression, violence or forced removals”.

“The EFF’s view on redistribution is merely a racist process to chase white people off their land and establish it within the state,” he said. “This is not only deceiving, but also a duplication of the economic policies that the world’s worst economies put in place.”

Afriforum said it would take its fight to the United Nations if necessary. The matter has been referred to the parliament’s Constitutional Review Committee, which must report back by August 30.

Earlier this month, Louis Meintjes, president of the farmers’ group the Transvaal Agricultural Union, warned the country risked going down the same route as Zimbabwe, which plunged into famine after a government-sanctioned purge of white farmers in the 2000s.

“Where in the world has expropriation without compensation coupled to the waste of agricultural land, resulted in foreign confidence, economic growth and increased food production?” Mr Meintjes said.

“If Mr Ramaphosa is set on creating an untenable situation, he should actively get up with the down stroke and create circumstances which will promote famine. His promise to expropriate land without compensation, sows the seed for revolution. Expropriation without compensation is theft”.
 
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So how long do you figger until the food production plummets and there are food riots and eventual starvation?
 

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So how long do you figger until the food production plummets and there are food riots and eventual starvation?
It's going to take a while. One, because this is in large part a bunch of shit talk by black politicians who are pandering for black votes, and "kill whitey" is the only message the savage rabble want to hear. In reality, the black politicians are too corrupt and incompetent to really want to rock the boat too hard and upset the status quo. That, and the whites still have lots of political power in SA, and a helluva a lot of land and property they want to protect.

It's not going to be an overnight revolution sort of thing. It's more going to be a slow grinding down of the will and patience of the whites until they one by one just say "fuck it", and move on to less niggerfluxed pastures in Australia, Canada, US, etc...

3 - 5 years... the big game animals are all gone from the parks, the tourist stream dwindles to a trickle, and the whites don't have their land and property confiscated as much as they just abandon it, and flee the country.

5 - 10 years... the farms fall into disrepair and disuse, the Rand becomes Zimbabwe dollars, and the first pleas for international food and free shit assistance go out... black politicians simultaneously blaming and begging the wypipo.

15 years and onward... fly-faced South African kids with their big, adorable starvation bellies are trotted out in hologram TV commercials in a futile attempt to tug at the strings of my cold, black, and uncaring heart, and I laugh and say "I remember back when white people ran that place, and it was far less a shithole than it is now." and then I fire up my jetpack and zoom 1000 feet straight up in the air and do a badass barrel roll.
 
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It's going to take a while. One, because this is in large part a bunch of shit talk by black politicians who are pandering for black votes, and "kill whitey" is the only message the savage rabble want to hear. In reality, the black politicians are too corrupt and incompetent to really want to rock the boat too hard and upset the status quo. That, and the whites still have lots of political power in SA, and a helluva a lot of land and property they want to protect.

It's not going to be an overnight revolution sort of thing. It's more going to be a slow grinding down of the will and patience of the whites until they one by one just say "fuck it", and move on to less niggerfluxed pastures in Australia, Canada, US, etc...

3 - 5 years... the big game animals are all gone from the parks, the tourist stream dwindles to a trickle, and the whites don't have their land and property confiscated as much as they just abandon it, and flee the country.

5 - 10 years... the farms fall into disrepair and disuse, the Rand becomes Zimbabwe dollars, and the first pleas for international food and free shit assistance go out... black politicians simultaneously blaming and begging the wypipo.

15 years and onward... fly-faced South African kids with their big, adorable starvation bellies are trotted out in hologram TV commercials in a futile attempt to tug at the strings of my cold, black, and uncaring heart, and I laugh and say "I remember back when white people ran that place, and it was far less a shithole than it is now." and then I fire up my jetpack and zoom 1000 feet straight up in the air and do a badass barrel roll.
Drunk...

Well hopefully when the whites leave they do a scorched earth policy... burning buildings... salting the earth... destroying equipment... cuz fuck em.
 

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Drunk...

Well hopefully when the whites leave they do a scorched earth policy... burning buildings... salting the earth... destroying equipment... cuz fuck em.
This.

I'd make damn sure there was nothing left that could be used, including the land if possible.
 

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This.

I'd make damn sure there was nothing left that could be used, including the land if possible.
I'd leave everything in perfect, clean and pristine condition for them, because it'd make it that much more hilarious when they got nice things, and they smeared shit all over it, and destroyed it.
 

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Drunk...

Well hopefully when the whites leave they do a scorched earth policy... burning buildings... salting the earth... destroying equipment... cuz fuck em.
There is already land in South Africa that Caucasians are banned from buying. Some of the land in those areas is already destroyed because of over farming... According to what Lauren Southern said when she went to South Africa. I skipped to the bit where she talks about it.

 

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I'd leave everything in perfect, clean and pristine condition for them, because it'd make it that much more hilarious when they got nice things, and they smeared shit all over it, and destroyed it.
Perhaps cameras, connectted to the Interweb thingy, would enlight the masses of asses.
 

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I'd leave everything in perfect, clean and pristine condition for them, because it'd make it that much more hilarious when they got nice things, and they smeared shit all over it, and destroyed it.
I prefer expediency, don't even give them a moment in the sun. Fucking assholes are too ignorant to realize where their food is coming from? Here's your answer. And I'd never lift a finger to help afterwards. Just let nature take over and they can reclaim the existence they had before western people arrived. Mud huts and malaria.
 

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So how long do you figger until the food production plummets and there are food riots and eventual starvation?
I am 100% fine with that as long as the bleeding heart UN and the United States let the selective darwin award winners starve to death. Fuck these people. Let nature take its course. The majority of them are savages who have proven time and time again they can not police themselves or take care of themselves. Why do you think Whitey had to step in so many years ago and crack the whip over there. The continent is and always has been a shit hole. When you get some reasonably smart black political leadership in place it get;s stripped down because no one want's to play follow the leader and do the hard work it is going to take to lift that hell hole out of poverty. These people would rather play the victim and blame whites. Well, as we saw in Zimbabwe once the white man leaves and there is no one to blame the gangs and the criminals take over. Bitches be rapped over and over, Children are indoctrinated into becoming soldiers and as if things weren't bad enough here come the Muslims to instill Islam into the society as the last basjen of hope. Once that happens the minority in power that makes sense is reduced to a mere figurehead just trying not to be overthrown by the army in a coup. We have seen this time and time again. Africa has a huge amount of natural resources and is among the most impoverished places on earth AND they are deforesting their forests at such a rapid pace it will have worldwide repercussions. The UN and the US have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars feeding and attempting to educate these people and they haven't made any real progress, Taking the land away from whites is merely a feel-good way to let the people think they got something back when in reality all they will be getting is more suffering and death. The last time Africa was thriving in any way positive was when the Roman Empire controlled vast parts of the area. Bring back the Cesears.
 

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Anyone else wondering why not a single western news agency is covering this?

Not really. We all know why.

When the country is plunged into famine the Left can all open their wallets and feel like saints for pouring money to these savages.
 

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My buddy "South African Shawn" hates him some blecks. I can't say I blame him. He moved here in the 90s. He told me how bad things were back then. When Mandela died we went out to celebrate. A bleck dared to offer him condolences on Mandela passing. It ended with fisticuffs and N-Bombs flying. He is a pretty big dude but just savagely strong from growing up on a farm out there. I'm bigger and like 20 years younger and would never think to tussle with him. Fuck that.

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My buddy "South African Shawn" hates him some blecks. I can't say I blame him. He moved here in the 90s. He told me how bad things were back then. When Mandela died we went out to celebrate. A bleck dared to offer him condolences on Mandela passing. It ended with fisticuffs and N-Bombs flying. He is a pretty big dude but just savagely strong from growing up on a farm out there. I'm bigger and like 20 years younger and would never think to tussle with him. Fuck that.

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I worked with a white South African woman a few years ago and she told be just how stupid and unwilling to learn anything these dumb ******s are.

Her family had land and locals to work it but they kept trying to them them how to use the equipment but had to show them over and over and over again.

Perhaps Oprah can open a school to teach them properly.
 

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I worked with a white South African woman a few years ago and she told be just how stupid and unwilling to learn anything these dumb ******s are.

Her family had land and locals to work it but they kept trying to them them how to use the equipment but had to show them over and over and over again.

Perhaps Oprah can open a school to teach them properly.
Yea it's basically more of the same he told me. But he also really hated American nogs. For obvious reasons. He would say all the time about how they have every opportunity but decided to live like they do. It was also hysterical when nigs would find out he was from South Africa and would say shit like "what's up my brotha" he would respond with "I'm not your brotha nigga" oh he's a treat.

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Perhaps cameras, connectted to the Interweb thingy, would enlight the masses of asses.
You're assuming that infrastructure would survive cuz you know anything of value would be stolen and sold for scrap.

One odd thing I was looking at a map of Cape town for some people who hate whitey they still have a shit tonne of streets named after them....
 

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Has South Africa ever had its head above water since the end of apartheid? I distinctly remember when it ended, and all the hooting and hollering, and the immediate flip to socialism, because the natives love “democratic” socialism.
I heard some thing about it on the BBC Monday about the land grab but not a peep in the US... but when there was apartheid, it seemed like at least weekly you would hear some nonsense about it in the US
 

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Has South Africa ever had its head above water since the end of apartheid? I distinctly remember when it ended, and all the hooting and hollering, and the immediate flip to socialism, because the natives love “democratic” socialism.
I heard some thing about it on the BBC Monday about the land grab but not a peep in the US... but when there was apartheid, it seemed like at least weekly you would hear some nonsense about it in the US
Some people talking about how this socialism is wrong would contradict their ideology and it would be convolutedly seen as "racist" and "colonial" to their echo chamber.
 

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You're assuming that infrastructure would survive cuz you know anything of value would be stolen and sold for scrap.

One odd thing I was looking at a map of Cape town for some people who hate whitey they still have a shit tonne of streets named after them....
That's because the streets were never named like Ooga Booga street, because there were no Oooga Boogas there to name the streets after themselves.

It goes way against the proper narrative, but the reality is that the southern part of South Africa was basically uninhabited when whitey arrived. It's too far south, and therefore too cold for the oogas and the boogas of northern Africa. Whitey had such a hard time finding boogas to do the shit work that he finally ended up importing oogas.

In 1652, Jan van Riebeeck and other employees of the Dutch East India Company (Dutch: Verenigde Oost-indische Compagnie, VOC) were sent to the Cape to establish a way-station for ships travelling to the Dutch East Indies, and the Fort de Goede Hoop (later replaced by the Castle of Good Hope). The settlement grew slowly during this period, as it was hard to find adequate labour. This labour shortage prompted the authorities to import slaves from Indonesia and Madagascar. Many of these became ancestors of the first Cape Colouredcommunities.

The claim that whitey stole the land from "the natives" is complete bullshit.