Discussion in 'Current Events' started by ShooterMcGavin, Jul 12, 2011.
The lead detective
Um, I may be mistaken here, but the establishment clause reads as "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."
So unless those are federally collected taxpayer funds, as far as I can tell they don't violate the establishment clause, since the program was enacted by a county in California.
It's fucking stupid, but I don't see it as being unconstitutional, unless I am missing something.
Again, this is based on the assumption that it's not federal money. The article wasn't very clear regarding where the funds came from.
No, dummy. From the 14th Amendment:
In other words, the rights provided in the Constitution & Bill of Rights apply at the state & local levels as well. They kinda fucked that up when it comes to the 2nd amendment, but that's another thread.
Again, I'm still not sure this is unconstitutional. The question is does the combination of the 1st and 14th Amendment prevent a county Sheriff's office from creating an internal directive, concerning internal policies, using funds collected through local taxes?
Somehow President Obama got away with using NASA to further relations with Muslims a while back, if I recall correctly (didn't pay attention to the story). Anyway, gotta go to work but I'll look into this a little later.
It'll be this thread in about two pages.
I love when an article starts out slamming another one for being "sloppily written" and then is guilty of it too. So apparently it's not just atheists who are ignorant of what the First Amendment's freedom of religion is and how it relates to an "establishment" of a religion.
And is this really that fauxrageous? Our military is provided the same types of training using federal funds. I've got no problem with this if it's designed to sniff out potential terrorists.
There should be a law enforcement agency which specializes in Muslims.
...one which investigates them.
ummmm states are are subjective to the US Constitution, it is the highest law in the country
I understand that, and absolutely admit I may be wrong, but from the way the story is worded this is basically an "outreach" program aimed at a minority segment of the population. The federal government does this type of shit all the time. There are "Native American" programs in place like this where I live operated by the Sheriff's department.
I simply don't really understand the article. It is very badly written. I'd like to know a)where the funds came from, and b)what is the objective (simply reaching out to Muslims, providing services solely to Muslims, etc).
I was thinking the same... I don't really see how this is all that different than the whole NASA reaching out to Islam thing, or even having undercover officers who would obviously have to fit a specific racial profile.
This really reads like a 1st year wannabe reporter thinking they found something and babbling about a bunch of shit they don't know.
Yep the reporter was obviously lazy or really dosen't know what he's talking about
Just about every big dept as a community relations dept with outreach programs to just about every stupid group there is. I'm sure sure there is even one in CA for Scientologists
Shhh. You'll ruin the fauxrage. It's all over the right wing blogosphere right now.
wait a second... someone is trying to stir up fauxrage over a community affairs section of a police dept? You've got to be kidding me.
i didn't even read anything in this thread because there is no kirk strong in it.
"Community?" Try "People who will get offended because they feel 'oppressed.'"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I got from this was a section of the department that sugarcoats their duties so that they don't offend anyone.
That's the issue. It sounds like the author did such a good job pussyfooting around this obvious issue that he got you arguing with each other.
PC 2011. You have to give it up for the number of revisions it's gone through to make itself sound morally impervious to the easily distracted.
This is no different than programs like Neighborhood Watch or even ones that try and engage people in gang infested areas to get them more involved in crime prevention.
how in the wide world of sports do you get that out of the story you posted?
its a community outreach program, no different than the other community outreach programs in police departments all over the country. Many have specific populations they address, a nationality, a geographical area, a religion.... I'm not getting the fauxrage... fill me in.
Exactly and if it gets some of them to help turn in the shitheads
in their community, all the better.